Architecture & Morality poll

I love all these songs but I gotta go with "Souvenir," that song is just on another plane altogether.

wow calling your album "architecture and morality" with a song called "architecture and morality" that's actually an instrumental was an incipient, empty postmodern gesture.

so was posting that

no

(sorry, just joshin ya)

no problem : )

the new stone age is my fave omd song. so i picked that. duh.

I voted Souvenir but only because I dont know any of the others! But Souvenir is lovely.

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Wait a minute - I don't understand - having the title track on your album be an instrumental is an incipient, empty, postmodern gesture? Or is it to do with the title itself?

I thought I was on ILE & I also thought 'Architecture & Morality' was a serious question & I eagerly clicked on it because I had to grapple with exactly this kind of seriousness earlier today -- but no! It's just the name of a compact disc!

Well, that's actually a good point. We shouldn't assume people know album titles by bands they don't know or know very well. In the past I have been irritated when folks here mentioned album titles like they assumed everyone would know what they were talking about. Sure I can attempt a google search, but why make me go to that kind of trouble?

Well, I managed a Google search (which is how I come to know what it is now, after eagerness + ignorance, as mentioned above on Wednesday, 4 July 2007 00:26 (13 minutes ago)), if you're being arsey to me, of all people, Bimble, of all people. I plumped for 'Joan of Arc (Maid of Orleans)', though, in the end, which was also now, and this time really 'now'.

I'm not being arsey to you at all, man! That wasn't my point. I was just saying folks on ILM should probably be more careful and considerate to not just name albums without a band to go along with them. Unless you're talking about Dark Side Of The Moon, I guess.

And don't get me wrong, I still don't even know Architecture & Morality all that well. I might put it on and try to correct that because of this thread. I do have it on cheap vinyl, at least.

Yes, the whole board should be rebooted. They should start with 'Dark Side of the Moon' and progress, gently, from there.

having the title track on your album be an instrumental is an incipient, empty, postmodern gesture? Or is it to do with the title itself?

Yes, the latter. Why did they choose that title? Because they wanted the aesthtetic of their music to be associated with those things. I'm sure it was a modernist gesture - when they're talking about architecture they probably meant modern architecture. (Can't imagine that they meant the Parthenon or a medieval castle.) "Morality" probably functions in the title to signify modern intellectualism - philosophy.

But yes, Bimble, it's an entirely EMPTY gesture to merely use signifiers in this way. The album has nothing to do with architecture and morality.

Well god you could say that about a ton of album titles!!!

yeah but the new stone age always seemed to me to be about the fear and dread of modern life (and that would include architecture "this is the room/this is the wall/this is the body i've been hoping for...") and the moral choices we are often forced to make in order to stay alive ("oh my god, what have we done this time...we'll start living in the new stone age"). but that's just me.

it's all about dancing in the ruins of the western world.

with blindfolds on even! because we don't care. cuz we are morally corupt.

and why can't an instrumental be about architecture and morality?

well, it IS sort of, ostensibly about architecture and morality. i'm just saying that the lack of actual CONTENT concerning the subjects of architecture and morality makes it an empty postmodern gesture.

Well god you could say that about a ton of album titles!!!

Not really. What's an example of something that's as empty yet reliant on resonant signifiers as this particular title? The title More Songs About Buildings and Food was seemingly using "buildings" in a similar way, but the "food" thing was more just silliness.

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god i have sullied this thread forever. so sorry. OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE THIIIIIIIIIIS TIME????

but pork soda had lyrics:
Grab yourself a can of pork soda
You'll be feeling just fine
Ain't nothin' quite like sittin' 'round the house
Swillin' down them cans of swine

and with that, thread is saved

Poor Curt1s, you've ruined his lovely OMD thread!

Scott, can I buy you a drink?

this is an ILM culture clash I did not expect

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"She's Leaving" with 0 votes!?

I agree that "She's Leaving" should never have had 0 votes. I didn't vote originally because I couldn't decide between like 4 tracks. I meant to listen again, but never ended up doing so.

I just listened again and I guess I would have to go with "Maid". big sucker for the mellotron. but man this album rules so hard. I do wonder how much they were thinking of 10cc with the voices all over everything. Antonioni used "Souvenir" (and "Stanlow")(in addition to John Foxx, Steve Hillage, and Tangerine Dream) in his 'Identification of a Woman', which got me thinking of this album again.

how the fuck did i miss this poll?

yes

Would have voted for 'The Beginning And The End' if I'd been around at the time. They really excelled at this type of track in their earlier years.

This album is the best.

This, Organisation, Dazzle Ships and Junk Culture have all been my favourite OMD album at one point or another!