Math-rock's origins

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Trying to figuring them (all).
Please name all the pre-1990 bands/composers who seem to foresee/influence the genre and briefly explain why you chose them. I'm either working on a math-rock monograph and searching for my pleasure, obviously. Thanks.

(Hope who doesn't know the exact meaning of the term -but wants her/his knowledge to be useful to this topic- will check this list:
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Gauss/best_math_rock_albums/)

Korcnoj, Sunday, 1 July 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

see prog rock

cutty, Monday, 2 July 2007 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

I knew, but I wanted more opinions. There's not only prog.

Korcnoj, Monday, 2 July 2007 00:48 (eighteen years ago)

If you are really into this stuff and are looking for something a bit more obscure, I'd look up a couple of CD's by a band called Pencil that was out of Bloomington, Indiana in the early to mid 90s. They were put out on Grass records. Their albums were not as great as they could be live, but I liked them quite a bit. Carl Saff was (and I suppose is) a really interesting guitarist.

There was another instrumental band from Bloomington playing off this kind of sound around the same time called Ativin that made a real good EP and album called German Water. This was right in the beginning as Secretly Canadian label was getting rolling. Carl Saff also recorded some of their stuff.

Cheer-Accident was another band that was from Chicago that also went for something in a similar vein. I saw them play a basement gig with Ativin a long time back.

These are three more bands that were exploring that kind of territory around the same time the words angular and math rock were being tossed about.

earlnash, Monday, 2 July 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)

Better known: Ruins.

Also maybe plausibly the occasional bit of Naked City.

ogmor, Monday, 2 July 2007 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

Rush! If you subtrack Geddy Lee's voice, a lot of Rush songs from the mid-70s until the early 80s were basically already math-rock. Same goes for King Crimson of the same period.

I would say This Heat and Heldon, but I don't know how many math rock guys listened to them.

Dominique, Monday, 2 July 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

yep, subtrack

Dominique, Monday, 2 July 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rIj6dt7uc

kamerad, Monday, 2 July 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

minutemen

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 2 July 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

David Bowie Song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR2L98gobTQ&mode=related&search=

dean ge, Monday, 2 July 2007 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

big black. "jordan, minnesota" redeemed rigor from prog/metal and gave it back to teh underground.

band of susans, slint, and the jesus lizard spring to mind as well.

Edward III, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

or just listen to king crimson's red, it's all there.

Edward III, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

"KEROSENE" = best song ever, tho not sure if it's math rock.

dean ge, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

if by "underground," you mean a northwestern law school graduate, then yeah, big black sure showed prog/metal

kamerad, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:30 (eighteen years ago)

i know what edward means abt big black, the sort of lurching, disjointed feel was a big thing w/math rock even if BB wasn't really very mathy or technical.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

ts: atomizer vs. misplaced childhood

Edward III, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

aren't they both on the same side?

dean ge, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:39 (eighteen years ago)


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