where was bill grundy GOING with his line of questioning on the 'TODAY' show?

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just wondering, having re-watched the interview with the sex pistols again on that 'seven ages of rock' punk episode. it's oft-cited that he was drunk and he actually says as much at the start of the interview but he doesn't really look it.
the bit where he badgers lydon, the jones swear-fest and when he makes that leery pass at siouxsie are the famous ones but what does this mean:

Grundy: "Are you serious?"

Matlock "Oh yeah,"

Grundy "You are serious?"

Matlock "Mmmmm."

Grundy "Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Brahms have all died ..."

Lydon "They're all heroes of ours..."

__________

i mean...*what* ?

if there's much in the archives about this i couldn't see it.

pisces, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

He was pissed as a fart

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Reading the entire transcript, it appears Grundy had no idea who they were or what he should ask them (the Sex Pistols were last-minute replacements, after all). He probably didn't know where he was going with that line of questioning himself.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

where is he now?

Saxby D. Elder, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Six feet under.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Dead. As opposed to dead drunk, which he often was.

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

i aint seen 'im

creme1, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

Ha. Television Personalities recorded an EP, "Where's Bill Grundy Now?" in 1978.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

RIP, heaven need a dude to perve on goffy chicks

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jRNOUz7uefA

oh i was j/k about "Where's Bill Grundy Now?"...

"Fucking rotter!"

Saxby D. Elder, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Here's a bit of Grundy festival yap from unjustly malinged "Seminal Live" LP by The Fall:
CRUISER'S CREEK INTRO. [by Bill Grundy] [top of page]

I have never seen five thousand yobbos in my life
I promise you I'm only going to speak to you now
For a few seconds
But a bit later I'm going to tell you
About how I made the fortune of punk rock
Since I think that music starts with Johann Sebastian Bach
And ends with Franz Schubert
You're going to have to listen a bit later
About my interview on television
The first they'd ever had
Bad language
See you later
Enjoy yourselves

(seems to be a music fan of some sort-ah)

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Ar, he was the first old man to perve over a goth chixor.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

xpost really?

I should have played that album more.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Who was that "other rocker," Eamonn?

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

I think he misheard Steve Jones as "fuckng rocker"

Eamon was Eamon Andrews, I believe.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i've always liked seminal live. looking at the sleeve always reminds me of the $5 show at northeastern univ. i missed when i was high school owing to lack of car/lack of friends interested in seeing the fall.

edb, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

bill grundy talks on a fall album? are they his own words?

pisces, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

Here's a bit of Grundy festival yap from unjustly malinged "Seminal Live" LP by The Fall: CRUISER'S CREEK INTRO.

I have always loved this!! (agreed, another great fall album)

I never knew who was speaking though, thx!

Saxby D. Elder, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Grundy speaks them, but the syntax and phrasing betray perhaps the mark of Mark.

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

that's what I always assumed...

Saxby D. Elder, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Matlock "Mmmmm."

this quote is a little weird when you read it as attributed to the character played by Andy Griffith

The Macallan 18 Year, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

this quote is a little weird when you read it as attributed to the character played by Andy Griffith

... lol as I did as well. :-)

dean ge, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

Beethoven's gone, but his music lives on,
And Mozart don't go shopping no more.
You'll never meet Lizst or Brahms again,
And Elgar doesn't answer the door.

Schubert and Chopin used to chuckle and laugh,
Whilst composing a long symphony.
But one hundred and fifty years later,
There's very little of them left to see.

The decomposing composers,
There's not much anyone can do.
You can still hear Beethoven,
But Beethoven cannot hear you.

Handel and Haydn and Rachmaninoff
Enjoyed a nice drink with their meal.
But nowadays no one will serve them,
And their gravy is left to congeal.

Verdi and Wagner delighted the crowds
With their highly original sounds.
The pianos they played are still working,
But they're both six feet underground.

The decomposing composers,
There's less (more!) of them every year.
You can say what you like to
But there's not much of them left to hear.

Claude Akil Debussy. Died, 1918.
Christof Viliborg Kralk. Died, 1787.
Carl Maria von Weber. Not at all well, 1825. Died, 1826.
Giacommo Meiabier. Still alive, 1863. Not still alive, 1864.
Modest Mussorgsky. 1880, going to parties. No fun anymore, 1881.
Johann Neopok Hummel. Chattin' away 19 'an a dozen with his friends down at the Pub every evenin', 1836. 1837, nothing.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

(Not too impressed with the spelling of the names in the version I just copy'n'pasted though)

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

That'll teach them to be insufficiently melodics.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 07:03 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

still have no answer to the original question. still baffling.

piscesx, Thursday, 25 November 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)

It seems weird now to think that at the time this would have caused an incredible stir. Now you'd see something like this every week on Recovery or Video Hits or some shit.

And this one time, on Bandcamp... (Trayce), Thursday, 25 November 2010 03:57 (fifteen years ago)

p sure you wouldn't

i'm assuming that it's tity boi, host of the mixtape (sic), Thursday, 25 November 2010 05:37 (fifteen years ago)

Well ok maybe not all the fuck fucker fuck stuff.

And this one time, on Bandcamp... (Trayce), Thursday, 25 November 2010 05:57 (fifteen years ago)

also recovery no longer exists

ah dictabelt (electricsound), Thursday, 25 November 2010 06:01 (fifteen years ago)

and hasn't for 10.5 years

also Video Hits is not live, wouldn't tape with a drunk host, wouldn't have hosts who would express contempt towards their interviewees, wouldn't have a band like the Sex Pistols on in the first place, and wouldn't put anything to air if it went "wrong" from a production perspective

i'm assuming that it's tity boi, host of the mixtape (sic), Thursday, 25 November 2010 06:41 (fifteen years ago)

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0knFHyDD150

E's like yer dad innee this geezer?

piscesx, Thursday, 28 July 2011 04:32 (fourteen years ago)


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