Krautrock-influenced Metal?

Circle?

Litmus?

loop?

skullflower's exquisite fucking boredom?

Nudity

Or Laddio Bolocko even?

Enslaved (esp. "The Crossing" on Below the Lights)

Yeah, I can't really suggest any true 'metal' stuff here. Be interested to know what there is though...

...see, a lot of these are more on the psych-metal/proto-metal Hawkwindish end of the metal spectrum. Which is great, but I'm also wondering if there's any krautish extreme metal. Say, Neu!-informed grindcore or blackened Can or something.

Perhaps something like Ministry which sometimes has a quasi-motorik beat with metal guitar and vocals.

BLOODSTAR

the closing track on the first Forest (RU) album is like a Black Metal Amon Düül I. try that.

hey, yeah, seconded. i forgot about them. also some of the french black legions stuff, moevot in particular.

Perhaps something like Ministry which sometimes has a quasi-motorik beat with metal guitar and vocals.

Necrophagist? they call it "technical death metal." strip away all the guitar widdling and the rhythmic bedrock is like sped-up motorik. plus, they're German.

Enslaved (esp. "The Crossing" on Below the Lights)

yes! was going to say the same thing, although I had "the dead stare" off of btl in mind myself.

Neu!-informed grindcore or blackened Can or something.

If that exists DJ Martian will be along with a link soon!

Voivod, Treponem Pal (who covered "Radioactivity" by Kraftwerk), Rammstein, Pankow, early Queens of the Stone Age, early Oneida, early Pere Ubu/Rocket From the Tombs, MX-80 Sound, Von LMO, Leather Nun....there's plenty, actually (Even Neurosis/Isis/Pelican stuff, I would think.)

And Fatso Jetson!

And Vertical Slit aka V3! And Destroy All Monsters!

Chrome!

yeah 1st Qotsa, Josh said Neu! was an influence. Fatso Jetson rock.

Neu!-informed grindcore

I always kinda heard a blackened Tangerine Dream on "Multinational Corporations," though I realize that doesn't make any sense.

skullflower - orange canyon mind

The first group that popped into my mind is 5ive (now known as 5ive's Continuum Research Project). If 5ive hadn't had such a stupid name, I bet they'd have a nice cult following right now. They are really riffy, almost kind of groovy at times (their great drummer ties it all together), and their music is very trance-inducing due to repetition and tendencies to slowly run their entire mix through flangers and filters. They don't really sound krautrock, but they induce the same trance-like state of mind that my favorite krautrock does.

Trans Am's not metal, but maybe they fit in here somewhere.

Sorry, I just got up, and misread thread title as "Kraftwerk-influenced Metal."

Super Roots 3

re neu! and ministry, i was cruising down in chicot county arkansas on my way to jackson mississippi for holidays a year or three back and was blasting side 2 of neu! 2. i don't remember which sped up track it was, but it struck me that it was so much like "jesus built my hotrod." i was like al, you old sneaky music nerd!

The Danava album on Kemado was really good Hawkwind stuff. And heavy at times. I liked it a bunch.

It's true about Bloodstar. Such a cool band.

I just got a cd in the mail from Candlelight that comes with patented Julian Cope hyperbole and that is supposed to be superheavy kraut/hawkwind-like, but I haven't listened to it yet. I'll report back.

And, again, for the 100th time on ilx, the Giant Brain album on Small Stone is really good motorik heavy stuff. basically heavier souped-up neu musik. i dig it. but it's not really "metal" metal. you know? dude in Giant Brain was the guitarist in Big Chief.

"metal" metal bands are more likely to be straight up psychedelic. like the metalgaze dudes. but not just them. lots of hypnotic and mindbendingly repetitious stuff in black metal and beyond that approaches and sometimes surpasses the best of psychedelic rock. but not a lot of it is gonna remind people of krautrock.

circle 'tulikoira' and 'sunrise' and Pharaoh Overlord '4' are the correct answer.

and "earthworm"

Novadriver!

Guru Guru (who were actually Kraut-rockers per se'!)

And yes, I third the Bloodstar nomination, obviously. One of my favorite metal bands of recent eons, easy.

did Skot mention tht Earthless album he digs? I don't see it mentioned . hm, I would rec it ... I think it falls under the purview of the thread, BUT, don't make the mistake I did and buy the LP -- LP sucks (bad pressing), and there is a "Cd only bonus track" (horseshit) I mean yeah, it's way more Groundhogs or UFO than classic Krautrock but there is that drive and chug if that's what peeps are looking for..

I've GOT to get that Giant Brain cd. I always thought Big Chief should give up the metal and start toward a jam band direction ... always seemed like Phil had the chops and they showed flashes

check the awesome jammage at the end of this clip (which got cut off in the studio -- it just wasn't "hip" in 1992 to sound like "earthless" or whoever):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEiA9vdfFpY

I guess Lungfish don't count as metal, but they might be the only Krautrock-influenced Band That Sound Like Fugazi (a genre in and of itself).

I don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but the recent Titan album A Raining Sun of Light & Love, For You & You & You isn't without some Krautrock moments.

I just got a cd in the mail from Candlelight that comes with patented Julian Cope hyperbole and that is supposed to be superheavy kraut/hawkwind-like, but I haven't listened to it yet. I'll report back.

It's Litmus isn't it?

I guess Lungfish don't count as metal, but they might be the only Krautrock-influenced Band That Sound Like Fugazi (a genre in and of itself).

-- Matt #2, Wednesday, July 4, 2007 8:12 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

i love Lungfish more than i love cheese. and that's saying something.

anyway back to metal.

Mayhem's "Sylvester Anfang"

"It's Litmus isn't it?"

that's the one.

okay, i put the Litmus album on and it makes me wonder if they are actually a Hawkwind tribute band of some kind. I think they even tour with Hawkwind, which must make things confusing for old acid-damaged hawkwind fans. I say skip Litmus and buy the Danava album.

Litmus are ok actually.

If Ministry etc belong here, maybe Killing Joke? (I've never thought of it before, but the theory that their dancey rhythms early on came from Kraut-rock more than disco might make a lot of sense.)

Also: Public Image Ltd, Metal Box!

Okay, maybe not.

But Mekanik Destructiw Komandoh (whose EP I wish I still owned) for sure.

And, since Stormy mentioned them in passing, UFO on their first couple albums.

Less sure about Earthless, whose new album continues to bore me (see rolling metal thread), though certainly some other stoner-rock stuff must fit here (Electric Wizard, maybe?) (And just because I don't connect with Earthless doesn't mean they don't have Kraut-rock in them, duh. So yeah, them. Definitely.)

(Danava's EP -- isn't it just like five songs? People keep calling it an album, but it never seemed that long to me -- didn't seem all that exciting to me, either. But maybe I was missing something there.)

In fact, even though I'm not all that crazy about any of them, all the albums I wrote about on this MTV Urge blog last year (definitely Om, who I'm kind of surprised nobody has mentioned yet) would apply (sorry about all the links that won't work):

One new metal trend that’s getting really old already is Elevator Metal, or, as I believe <i>Decibel</i> magazine is calling it these days “metalgaze”: You know, the ambient children of Isis and Sleep. Every week I’m sent all sortsa CDs of this ilk, distinguishable primarily by their amorphous cover art—so interchangeable that, to be honest, I can’t even tell anymore whether 5ive’s <i>Versus</i> (Tortuga) or the North Sea and Rameses III’s <i>Night of the Ankou</i> (Type) or Envy’s (this its real title!) <i>Insomniac Doze</i> (Temporary Residence) are actually meant of metal or new age fans.

That said, <i>Ecdysis</i> (At a Loss) by Baltimore’s <a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=33131413";>Darsombra</a> is a thick healthy wall of noizak, with exursions into jangly ringing folk drone and mechanical space dub breaking up the thrash; like most such doom drone baloney, it’s most useful during a bad sinus headache. Zombi’s <i>Surface to Air</i> (Relapse), meanwhile, has synths taking us on a trip, like Giorgio Morodor’s <i>Midnight Express</i> soundtrack, though people always compare the guitarless duo to some old Italian prog band called Goblin who I’ve never heard. The only detectable “metal” moment seems to be how the title cut keeps slipping into a recurrent riff from "Inna Gadda Da Vida".

<a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=75523160";>Om</a>’s <i>Conference of the Birds</i> (Holy Mountain) has one 15:15 track with a monotoned vocal itself evolving into a pulsating drone, sort of Underworld-style, and one 17:27 track, more of the Hawkwind soaring-through-solar-system genus. And even more ambitiously absurd might be Everlovely Lightningheart’s one-track, 40-minute <i>Cusp</i> (Hydrahead), with medieval classical lute somewhere amidst its sludge, then, at the 23-minute mark, old-school-industrial Test Dept quasi-tribal 20-drummers-beating-on-oil-barrel imitations of Brazilian rain-forest drum rhythms, winding down to some decent whoosh: Music for the post-death metal-concert chill-out room. And like the rest of these discs, quite lovely in the background.

Also, this one (about albums I like more):

So apparently, when it comes to the Swede pysch revival, Dungen is only the tip of a very tall iceberg. Only way I found out was from a package of CDs (many with Xeroxed covers) that came in the mail from <a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=76545206";>Transubstans Records</a>. So anyway, here’s a brief rundown

<a
href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=47674383";>Abramis Brama</a>, <i>Nar Tystnaden Lagt Sig…</i>: Stoner-droner sludge filtering Uriah Heep/Hawkwind through melodic grunge in the ‘90s. (I’d say more but my copy is misplaced at the moment.)

<a href="http://cdbaby.com/cd/carpetknights";>The Carpet Knights</a>, <i>Lost and So Strange Is My Mind</i>: Vocals can inch toward mellow grunge or Dave Matthews muppet-showery as twee as their name, but complex tromping toward climaxes with Jethro Tull flutes and quivers makes up for diddling.

<a href="http://cdbaby.com/cd/fbfos";>First Band From Outer Space</a>, <i>Impressionable Sounds of the Subsonic</i> and <i>We’re Only in it for the Spacerock</i>: Rave-ups zooming toward the stratosphere exactly like their name and titles suggest, but the long-winded Hawkwinding can get very heavy and frantic, with words about underdogs and (yep more) flutes over a hard rumble that breaks down into dub echo or free jazz or rave blips or renaissance folk or Voivod thrash.

<a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=84832416";>Gargamel</a>, <i>Watch for the Umbles</i>: Heavy Van Der Graaf Generator-style prog occasionally cooling off toward early Genesis prancing and/or saxophoned-and-fluted fusion, with growls or nerdy nasals evolving into massed gothic choruses.

<a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=61427941";>The Grand Trick</a>, <i>The Decadent Session</i>: Most heavily power-riffing of these bands, almost in a familiar American stoner-metal way but with better blooze howling and riffs taken from Focus in the band’s theme song. The war march “Hills” has the most Thin Lizzy like melody; other tracks suggest Dungen with more shape.

<a href="http://cdbaby.com/cd/mrbrownmusic";>Mr. Brown</a>, <i>Mellan Tre Ogon</i>: More Focus fans! Except with symphonic jig sections and saxes instead of yodeling. This reissue of an allegedly lost 1977 classic also provides evidence that Soft Machine were a missing link between Kraut-rock and fusion. And rural prog with warmth somehow intact amidst the ice.

<a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=74116861";>Skyron Orchestra</a>, <i>Situations</i>: Veronica Lostjärna’s vocals in “Desire” and “Star” awesomely close the gap between the Gathering and Shocking Blue or maybe Curved Air. Repetitive guitar lines turn seven-minute muffles beautiful, and there’s a token Suede/Placebo-style new wave number. Much of the rest is early ‘70s metal, with an early-Ozzy-like falsetto vibrato spouting paranoia about wanting to stay in bed.

Newie Souvenir's Young America which came in the mail yestiddy. Has Neurosis and all that upstream fiddle-faddle writtne all over it. Cover touches all the bases -- art of pyramid with an eye sprouting the tentacles of Cthulhu, the Ouroboros snake, and an image from Machen's the Great God Pan (or Pan's Labyrinth, if you're more current).

Like everything else in microniche music, it's become a style in which their appear to be more bands thans fans.

I love SYA. Pre-ordered that vinyl last month. Can't wait to hear it

What I mainly remember about Danava, incidentally, is that the vocals sounded really weak to me.

(Kind of shocked by how many typos are in those Urge posts, by the way. Those aren't final versions, just rough versions I saved in a file on my laptop; I tended to give them a couple more run-throughs once I posted them, so hopefully they were less full of misspellings once anybody else read them--assuming anybody else actually did, which I've always been skeptical about given the process that was required.)

Oddly, the version of UFO that's most (and only Krautrock influenced) that the most English edition of the band. Flying and the first album made UFO semi-big in Germany, the only country they had success in until Phenomenon (which still has shades of space rock in it). I imagine it may have had something to do with the audience or rubbing up against Guru Guru, who were doing a similar thing.

Souvenur's Young America definitely would float the boat of those endorsing the idea of this thread. All soundscapes/Elevator Metal, Euro-spaghetti western muzak floating in and out, particularly for "Invocation in the Caldera" which sounds aimed at Pink Floyd vibes.

An Ocean Without Water is the alb's title.

*COUGH*

i kinda wanna repost that to every krautrock/julian cope thread