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There is a sad dearth of discussion regarding Roy Wood on ILM -- but particularly with respect to his post-Move material, which includes lost classic Boulders (actually recorded concurrently with The Move, but released after they broke up), the two Wizzard LPs and litany of non-album singles ("Ballpark Incident," "Angel Fingers," etc.), Mustard, the only recently unearthed Main Street. After that point, Roy kinda tailed off and disappeared.
But while the quality of his post-Move work may not rise to the level of his earlier outfit, it's certainly ignored unjustly. Wizzard was Wood's ELO (after leaving ELO) and entirely more bizarre -- the debut is simultaneously ugly and soaring, certainly an outstretch of the final Move records, Looking On and Message From the Country, with perhaps a trace of Zappa in there for good measure. Meanwhile, the aforementioned singles sound almost as if recorded by a different band altogether -- Spector-esque pastiche that did fairly well on the English charts. Eddy and the Falcons is Roy's Faithful, with Mustard perhaps his final significant work -- Roy himself described the latter's "You Sure Got It Now" as "the Andrews Sisters meets John Mayall" (and yes, it's every bit as good as it sounds).
What say ILM of this man's wayward genius?
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 7 July 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)
I've still got Boulders laying around someplace. That's pretty good, tho I haven't played it in years. Loved the bits where he imitates a dying lovestruck computer or an old lady playing banjo. (Hated the attempt to rhyme "locomotive" with "promoted" however.)
Lotsa ILMers far more qualified than myself to say more.
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 7 July 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)
love his andrews sisters pastiches
"indiana rainbow" is quite lovely as well
― babedad, Saturday, 7 July 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)
there's a great bit in the Joe Boyd book about how he really thought the Move were fantastic--and they were. I frankly only listen these days to one song on the pretty nifty Boulders, and that's "Rock Medley" with the second part, "She's Too Good for Me," being the greatest, drollest, funniest Everly Brothers rip ever. Genius in its way, so completely deadpan, I never fail to laugh when Roy Wood hits that high note beginning "Man, I was glad she came, now I feel the shame, must be losing her/Now, I can shout or laugh, got a telegraph, she's too good for me." Now that's lyric-writing.
But I dunno, I once owned Eddy and the Falcons and to be honest the only great tune was a Spector pastiche, complete with parenthetical aside, "This Is the Story of My Love (Baby)," which is pretty cool. Maybe it needs a remastering for the 47 people in the world who want it, but that record always sounded terrible to me, and Wizzard's Brew was just plain (really caco-)phony, jumbled crazed drums smashing around and Wood's challenged sax playing, just a mess. Some of the singles, like "Ball Park Incident," are nice, but I no longer own The Roy Wood Story either, nor do I have what is basically his solo record with the beauteous chick from Renaisssance, Annie Haslam, Annie in Wonderland, which is also just plain strange. But the Move stuff is deathless, these days I still get off on "Flowers in the Rain" and "Wild Tiger Woman" and "Wave Your Flag and Stop the Train" and "Tonight" and even the fake-heaviness of Looking On and actually conceptually brilliant and perhaps prescient, or perhaps it is just a joke on rock and roll that didn't take, Shazam, which is also one strange fucking record. But the Move doing "Hello Susie" is sort of classic, better than when the Amen Corner did it. The New Seekers, believe it or not, did "Tonight" by the Move, and it's weird too.
― whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 8 July 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)
My five-year-old thoughts (scroll down).
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 9 July 2007 07:42 (eighteen years ago)
I bought this second-hand after not having it for years! Long enough to have forgotten most of it, mainly "She's too good for me" which then became embedded in t' brane.
(Hated the attempt to rhyme "locomotive" with "promoted" however.)
-- Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 7 July 2007 18:40 (2 days ago) Bookmark Link
Ah, it's "locomotion"/"Promotion", still bad but at least it rhymes.
― Mark G, Monday, 9 July 2007 07:48 (eighteen years ago)
Just read Marcello's piece. Mostly true (never heard Rattlesnake Roll, it's not on Eddy/Falcons)
Will have to track down "Mustard" again, and the post "Jet" stuff I never had.
― Mark G, Monday, 9 July 2007 07:53 (eighteen years ago)
(ounk happened, you know...)
― Mark G, Monday, 9 July 2007 08:21 (eighteen years ago)
punk ,even
Weird to see this thread, I just bought the "boulders" LP on ebay with 2 7"'s of non-LP singles.
Amazing album. Mustard is decent too, but I prefer "Boulders".
Wizzard are good too, though I havent really gotten into the Wizzo Band yet, or Hellacopters, etc.
The man's a genius though
― Erock Zombie, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 05:03 (eighteen years ago)
Indeed it does. Thanks for the correction.
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 05:09 (eighteen years ago)
how could i live all this time without listening to this amazing record (boulders)? i just cant get it out of my head. this record is the best parody record ever recorded.(maybe cause most of the time it's better than the original) "rock down low",the Stones ripoff is my favourite,but overall,it's a masterpiece.
― Zeno, Sunday, 18 November 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)
i LOVE the andrews sisters sounding stuff but i really need to pull this out again and give it another shot.
always been very very partial to wizzard's brew (especially on LP, cranked way the hell up, after 3 or so beers)
― winston, Sunday, 18 November 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)
i think,as for roy wood solo carrer, boulders is the one and the only must. 'mustard' is ok to, but it doesnt rich the peaks of 'boulders'
― Zeno, Sunday, 18 November 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)
anyway,anyone who admire todd rundgren (like myself) and harry nilsson shouldnt miss this record. it stands at the best of the beatles pastiche ever recorded/arranged (with all sorts of guitars)/produced.
― Zeno, Sunday, 18 November 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah.
I wish he continued with the "cut loose madness" of Wizzard Brew, etc.
I have to track down "Main Street" I guess.
― Mark G, Sunday, 18 November 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)
is there a mix of the first wizzard album that doesn't sound like it was recorded by daleks? or is there just nothing there underneath the ring modulator and phasing?
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 17:35 (six years ago)
It's so awesome
― brimstead, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:10 (six years ago)
Hi,
I know what you mean, and yes: The latest remaster is miles better. And I have cloth ears for 'improved sound' usually, so it must be better!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:12 (six years ago)
is that the 2006 version, or is there a later one? anyway call me a philistine but what i'd really like to hear is a _re-mix_, just to understand what it would sound like without all the, er, roy wood-isms! honestly i'd be very curious to hear what someone like steven wilson would do with it...
― the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 22:31 (six years ago)
Boulders gets all the love, but Mustard is where it's at.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J7vJlaIU3o
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 23:25 (six years ago)
The 2006 one, yes. I have the 1999 one as well, and that's much like the original LP, i.e. Murky.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 07:09 (six years ago)
I've just recently started heavily listening to Wizzard's Wizzard Brew. I found it unlistenable at first. The production is insane. I didn't get it. Maybe there isn't anything to get?
Then one night I was sitting in a dark study just minding my own business, 'Meet Me in the Jailhouse' blasting my ears and I haven't looked bad. The album is a work of art. It is insane, amazing, everything to me. The production no longer sounds weird.
What happened?
I bow to you, Roy.
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 25 January 2021 20:20 (five years ago)
Just picturing this oaf, dressed how he's dressed, all shambolic as he works his way through this masterpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImihYssR1nA
band clattering, melting down in the background, production smoke blowing out their ears and going back into their noses
I've never heard anything like it
this is a legendary record
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 25 January 2021 20:26 (five years ago)
Indeed. It was one of my first albums, and I still want to hear it.
See also The Move "Shazam!"
― Mark G, Monday, 25 January 2021 20:42 (five years ago)
wizzards brew is a glorious clattering din
― brimstead, Monday, 25 January 2021 21:21 (five years ago)
Maybe my favorite bit:
Get on down, get on down to MemphisWhere the steel guitar man plays so hard, it'll blow you downDown, down, get on down to MemphisThe one back door in the record store could help me if I get on down
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:54 (five years ago)
I know it's not on this, but "Will Dion still be so important to you on your wedding day" is one of the greatest (run-on) song lyric lines OF ALL TIME!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 08:25 (five years ago)
Ugly THings hasa review of I think the lp after Wizzard's Brew whichy mentioned how weird it was so I wa slooking it up a week or so ago. Sounds like something I should be semi familiar with at least but I don't remember hearing it.Do like The Move and the first ELO set and think I remember the heavily made up fully bnearded Wood on TOTP from childhood. May be footage I've seen elsewhere since though.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 08:56 (five years ago)
That'll be the "Eddie and the Falcons" set - It's not that weird by comparison as most of it are 'pastiche' works and tributes of sorts, until the final track which is more full-on Wizzard jive.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 10:29 (five years ago)
Can't be bothered with "Eddie and the Falcons", to be honest.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 12:01 (five years ago)
Do any of his fans regret his absence from recording over the last few decades?
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:43 (five years ago)
Of course, if, and it's a big if, he'd been happy putting out stuff people other than himself might like.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:49 (five years ago)
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 14:01 (five years ago)
"Wizzard Brew"?
Well, it's one of the extra tracks on the CD version(s) - "Angel Fingers"
― Mark G, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 14:56 (five years ago)
Of course, if, and it's a big if, he'd been happy putting out stuff people other than himself might like.― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:49 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:49 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Then again, "Wizzard Brew" strikes me as his massive self-indulgence, and "Eddie/Falcons" the "please the people" set.
also:
Ugly THings hasa review of I think the lp after Wizzard's Brew whichy mentioned how weird it was ...― Stevolende, Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:56 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Stevolende, Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:56 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I wonder if this was either the unreleased "Main Street" that came out comparatively recently, or the "Wizzo Band" one.
Both are quite "jazzy" - beyond that I can't comment.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:01 (five years ago)
This is the keeper from Eddy & The Falcons:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exVK5KLhr3k
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:14 (five years ago)
That’s not a cover of “Runaway”?
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:32 (five years ago)
Oh, okay
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:43 (five years ago)
It’s not a cover but is def. a pastiche of “Runaway.” But a damned good one for sure.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:27 (five years ago)
I mean, there's something fascinating about a guy who orchestrates his Del Shannon pastiche with clavinet and Joe Meek organ.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:38 (five years ago)