I guess I'm a glutton for punishment, that or I recognize that my tastes change over time. But some bands I revisit every 3-5 years and just can't get into. The biggest example is The Clash, the only top tier UK punk band that just doesn't do it for me. Oh, some of the early singles are good but I keep trying to no avail. This year I listened to the live album and it just doesn't move me.
Anyone else relate?
― Mr. Odd, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)
A.C. Temple, but I don't expect that to spark much discussion.
― dlp9001, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)
...and I'm pretty sure there has to be another thread or so on this, since I usually bring up Live Skull, who I'm still not into.
― dlp9001, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)
Tom Waits. I've given up.
― Ms Misery, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)
mmm...arcade fire....
― Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)
Have you heard Positraction, dlp9001? (Maybe I've asked you that before...)
2x-post
― Tim Ellison, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)
Oh my god, I thought I was the only one...
― Davey D, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)
Positraction is great indeed. i love live skull,but i have a friend who desnt get them either,he says the sound is too "goth" for him. what an idiot.
― Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)
"Tom Waits. I've given up.
Oh my god, I thought I was the only one..."
thirded, though i didn't try too much
Waits 4th'd
I tried a little, but goddam, if you have to try that hard...
(I don't mind him on film)
― will, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)
The White Stripes. I try and try, and even enjoy it here and there, but part of me really dislikes their sound. Also the Pet Shop Boys. Not big on Waits either. Although he mixes in nicely on Dr.Yo.
― django, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)
I have Positraction on my iPod, and definitely keep plugging away at it. I think it may be production that's keeping me from liking Live Skull...it's very frustrating as I keep expecting them to click some day and they never seem to. Oh well, I rarely give up on bands that seem intriguing. Right now my NY post-No-Wave guitar bands ranking is something like Dustdevils>Band of Susans>Rat at Rat R>Swans>Sonic Youth and I'm probably forgetting someone. Magic Dirt figure in somewhere, but they're not from NY.
xpost.
― dlp9001, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)
the two that I regret not liking are Husker Du and Public Enemy. they sound so awesome, but i just can't..
― poortheatre, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)
oh and Everything But The Girl. or as I call them, Slow And Horrible Death By Brunch.
― django, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)
I tried Tortoise four times, but nothing, well except maybe for Dj'ed.
― mehlt, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)
Boredoms. They're okay, but I always feel like that time could be better spent listening to something else similar yet better.
― dean ge, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)
The Fall. A lot of Bowie. All of New Order. Teh Beatles.
― bnw, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)
XTC and Dinosaur Jr, chiefly.
― Z S, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)
also modest mouse,and yeah huskar du..
― Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)
xpost - Dinosaur seconded. I like a few things here and there that they've done, and I've had You're living all over me since high school. I tried listening to it the other day, and besides the first track (which I really like) and Lou's song (I like the mopey early Sebadoh/Sentridoh Freed Weed, etc. stuff), I've never really been able to get into it. I don't think they're overrated, though, it's just one of those things that I can't really get into.
― Mark Clemente, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)
xxxpost the Fall definitely. Though I've admittedly only tried with one album, This Nation's Saving Grace, but it has never worked for me. But perhaps I should give the other stuff a listen.
― Mark Clemente, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)
"But perhaps I should give the other stuff a listen"
no perhaps - have to!
― Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)
For a while it was the Boredoms, but now I just like them! Sonic Youth have taken their place.
I wonder why we pick specific bands to try to like. I know the bands I try to like are usually canonical ones, but there are certain canonical bands that I dislike and have not bothered giving a second chance to.
― Vinnie, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)
btw,if the search function worked ok - there are several threads on the subject
― Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)
"I wonder why we pick specific bands to try to like"
there are some people with similiar music taste like mine, but they also like this one band that i don't get. usually i try to like this band, cause it doesnt seem logic that i don't like them. but who says life and taste in music make sense anyway..
― Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)
zeno -- I know I could just look at a Fall thread, but what's an album I should check out if I didn't totally like TNSG? They have an awful lot of stuff...
― Mark Clemente, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)
you can't go wrong with slates, man
― pretzel walrus, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)
try a compilation of "the early years" and "the woonderfull and frightning world" which is like TNSG but with a better,cleaner,more accesible production. if you don't like those 2, give up. (and if you do - the next step is hex enduction hour, which is a more "difficult" classic)
― Zeno, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)
that's pretty good advice!
― Tim Ellison, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)
my stock answer to this question is, and probably always will be:
Manic Street Preachers
― henry s, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)
I did try to search for a similar thread but without a unique keyword, nothing...
Tom Waits - I'm in that boat, too. This year, though, I made some progress with the 3 disc box he recently put out. The Orphans tracks, in particular, are really good. But not enough to make me own him.
The Fall took me years to go from hate to total and complete love, and I also started by getting into the poppier Beggars Banquet years, working backwards and then forwards again.
Sonic Youth also fall into this category for me, though I like alot of their work but I just don't love them and find their records inconsistent.
― Mr. Odd, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)
I don't like It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back at all, but the other Public Enemy stuff I've heard leads me to believe that I might still be able to get into one of their other albums.
"Sister Ray" and The Velvet Underground & Nico are so boring that I have no desire to listen to VU ever again. I remember one time when the stretch from "I'm Waiting For My Man" to "Heroin" sorta clicked with me and I 'got it', but the next time I listened to it it was gone again.
― bernard snowy, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)
Three letters: G.B.V.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:08 (eighteen years ago)
Joy Division & Pere Ubu. I understand their importance, but neither are any fun.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:11 (eighteen years ago)
hey wait a damn minute. pere ubu are, at their best, a surreal experience. secondly, the sounds that Allen Ravenstine produces are flat out kooky. i wouldn't expect Dadaesque art to be "fun", but it can be entertaining as hell if you're in the right mood.
one of the most spine tingling solos i've ever heard is on the song "final solution" - not "feel good" stuff, but, like it or lump it, as powerful as anything ever recorded, imo
― outdoor_miner, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)
try a compilation of "the early years" and "the woonderfull and frightning world" which is like TNSG but with a better,cleaner,more accesible production.
On CD, Wonderful & Frightening World has always sounded really murky to my ears (though it is perhaps my favorite Fall album). If you're not averse to a career-spanning comp, I think 50,000 Fall Fans actually does pretty well.
I can't quite get into Van der Graaf Generator and am not sure why. It might be something about Peter Hammill's voice, sort of over the top or harsh. I like early Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, some Gentle Giant; being into the proggy stuff as well as later punk/post-punk, by which standards it seems like VDGG was more admirable than other prog, it seems like I should like them, but not much luck so far. He to the He I somewhat enjoy.
― eatandoph, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 01:02 (eighteen years ago)
At their best, GBV create fantastic 3 minute pop songs that stick in your head. Unfortunately, most of their albums are chock-a-block full of song snippets and other failed experiments, making it hard to get to the nuggets. A friend of mine, a huge GBV fan, skimmed the top for me and culled out all their best stuff, and it's a joy to listen to. He recently lent me _Bee Thousand_ and I found listening to it a chore just to get to the good bits. So I can understand your feeling - find a friend who's a GBV fanatic and have 'em make you some compilations!
― Mr. Odd, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 01:37 (eighteen years ago)
Spoon... such a goddamn impenetrable band.
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)
Wilco - 'Summerteeth' to be specific.
On paper it should be so easy. But stick it on my stereo and my hand immediately reaches for the skip button.
― sam500, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)
Seconded. Bought three of their records before I finally admitted to myself that I just don't want to listen to half-completed demos of half-written songs.
― Formerly Painful Dentistry, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 02:51 (eighteen years ago)
I'm amazed that everything I was gonna submit has already been mentioned.. either we've all been lulled into quietly putting them into "the canon" without thinking, or we understand why they're vital yet it just misses the mark on a personal level.
My vote goes to the latter.. they're all pretty inventive.
So for me, again.. Public Enemy Pere Ubu G.B.V. Husker Du Bowie XTC Tom Waits
And I try three or four consecutive Animal Collective tracks at least once every two months. Never sparks anything.
The Fall took me years to go from hate to total and complete love..
― bassace, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:04 (eighteen years ago)
Spoon, totally. Sometimes nice to hear on a jukebox, maybe on a soundtrack. Perfect incidental indie.
― wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:06 (eighteen years ago)
The Replacements
― iago g., Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:17 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah I finally clicked with The Fall about a year ago. No idea what happened there, it just made a great deal of sense one day. And this was after a couple years of trying to like them.
Pere Ubu and Tom Waits both way OTM, for me.
― Clay, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)
Broken Social Scene. Another Arcade Fire I'm afraid.
― whatever, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:30 (eighteen years ago)
You know, I see a lot of bands being named here that I completely love (Hüsker Dü, The Replacements), but I totally understand how someone can be "eh" about 'em.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:36 (eighteen years ago)
Spoon, the Arcade Fire, and the Fall. yeah, not an original bunch to pick, but those really ARE the ones that first pop into my head.
― the table is the table, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:12 (eighteen years ago)
"Wilco - 'Summerteeth' to be specific.
"
yeah,otm.but only about that particular record.
pere ubu is hard to get into,and i can't say i'm always in the mood,but if i am - they are great experience.
plus, i can't get a alot of the progressive 70's stuff that is now quite trendy,maybe cause i grew up on 3 minutes songs,it's too pretentious and ridicules to me sometimes.
oh,and though i love "Can",some of their suppose to be "classic" stuff is boring.
― Zeno, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:20 (eighteen years ago)
90% of all popular music released in the past five years
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:37 (eighteen years ago)
"90% of all popular music released in the past five years"
how old are you?
― Zeno, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:39 (eighteen years ago)
smiths, morrissey, new order, bernard sumner
― xzanfar, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:30 (three years ago)
ha, Unrest, YMG and Swell Maps are three of my favouritest bands
― a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:33 (three years ago)
I think I've said this before but I love the Young Marble Giants album so much that I rarely play it. Which sounds like a Yogi Berra-ism, but I really never want to wear out its charms with overplay and overfamiliarity. It's one of my favorite records of all time.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:43 (three years ago)
Unrest - Imperial F.F.R.R. is one of my favorite albums. Interesting though if that does nothing for someone who likes Perfect Teeth!
― Evan, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:17 (three years ago)
― 20 Preflyte Rock (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:17 (three years ago)
― DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:32 (three years ago)
_Unrest - Imperial F.F.R.R. is one of my favorite albums. Interesting though if that does nothing for someone who likes Perfect Teeth!_Lemme try again!
― DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:34 (three years ago)
I love the Young Marble Giants album so much that I rarely play it.
There are lots of Big Monolithic Albums that I count among my favourites (Colossal Youth, Suicide s/t, The Drift) that I've maybe listened to about five or ten times only. When the music has a simplistic quality to it, it resonates in your brain longer and doesn't require actual listening, at least, that's my experience
― a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:40 (three years ago)
The Drift is a great example of that. I love it, have only listened to 3 times, not going to happen again anytime soon either
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:54 (three years ago)
also, so far i have only listened to laurie anderson's United States Live once, in full, but it was enough to fall in love
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:55 (three years ago)
My exact experience as well, though I've dipped into bits and pieces over the years. I'm due for a full immersion soon.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 18:10 (three years ago)
Pixies
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 18:11 (three years ago)
i forget, was the original performance of the material from US Live also 4 and a half hours long? If so, were the performances split across multiple nights, or did she do it all in a single night (with intermission, I'd assume)?
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 18:17 (three years ago)
I don't remember, but I asked her about archival footage once and apparently it does not exist :(
― a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 18:30 (three years ago)
The Drift, in particular, has a cinematic or radio-play aspect to its sound and structure, so you can absorb it on a dramatic level as well or instead of a typical musical level.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 18:42 (three years ago)
Wikipedia says United States originally ran about 8 hours and that most of what's not on the box set was chiefly visual.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 21:54 (three years ago)
I saw her on the Strange Angels tour. It was one of the most remarkable performances I've ever seen.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 22:07 (three years ago)
i said the exact same thing about sun city girls 11 years ago on here that i said on that thread the other day. i'm such an embarrassing broken record. i threw in the residents here though for good measure.
i'll just add melvins here for good measure. since i'm in a broken record frame of mind. i always try but i should really give it up by now. they are just not for me. don't like their songs or the vocals. i don't like their art/covers. i don't even like their song titles. i can't take them seriously. too grunge. which is weird because i friggin' adore Kyuss. i worship Kyuss. and who is more grunge then the Kyuss dude! i just love their songs and grooves so much.
― scott seward, Thursday, 30 January 2025 23:38 (seven months ago)
Every few years I'll read some interview with Paddy McAloon and once again check out Prefab Sprout... three decades of trying and they have yet to stick with me.
― visiting, Friday, 31 January 2025 00:23 (seven months ago)
awww. maybe it will happen someday! they were so lovely. both my kids like prefab sprout. we are 2nd gen now. keeping the flame alive.
― scott seward, Friday, 31 January 2025 00:32 (seven months ago)
Yeah, Melvins.
Coil. I've tried Moon's Milk and Musick To Play in The Dark and they just sound... silly. And I think they're supposed to sound serious.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 31 January 2025 00:53 (seven months ago)
i don't really listen to coil anymore. i used to. i'm a love's secret domain fan. that album is cool.
― scott seward, Friday, 31 January 2025 01:06 (seven months ago)
paramore, taylor swift, big thief, war on drugs
― LightUserSyndrome, Friday, 31 January 2025 01:15 (seven months ago)
they just sound... silly. And I think they're supposed to sound serious
See also Whitehouse and Throbbing Gristle.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 31 January 2025 01:27 (seven months ago)
see I don't think either of those bands took themselves seriously at all, to their benefit - this was a problem with Psychic TV but not TG or Whitehouse imho
― sleeve, Friday, 31 January 2025 04:11 (seven months ago)
TG are highly serious lol.
Coil I haven't quite got into. I should like them a lot more, but its not the silliness.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 February 2025 07:22 (seven months ago)
prefer Chris & Cosey tbh
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 1 February 2025 11:34 (seven months ago)
coil is the only one of these bands I've really managed to get into. I think the occasional silliness of it is intentional.
― silverfish, Saturday, 1 February 2025 14:32 (seven months ago)
I think some of it is intentional and some of it was just fried-brain-taking-Aleister-Crowley-seriously stuff, but I still love them despite the latter. It’s not unlike David Lynch in that sense.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Saturday, 1 February 2025 14:37 (seven months ago)
I had to give up on Arthur Russell in the end. Nothing wrong with it and it's exactly the kind of thing I should like. But I don't, so I'll leave him to those that do.
― unboxing helena (Matt #2), Saturday, 1 February 2025 14:51 (seven months ago)
Patti Smith— I've just never understood it. I must have listened to 'Horses' two dozen times. Just totally not for me.
Incredible String Band- Every few years, someone mentions ISB in glowing terms, and I have to go back and listen again, and every time I think to myself, "I am not hearing what others are hearing."
as far as somer recent mentions, I always liked Psychic TV and Coil better than TG, and honestly I think Threshold Houseboys Choir beats the shit out of them all, I could listen to that first THC album on a loop for days.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 10 February 2025 03:21 (six months ago)
Table, for Patti you could approach from the other side and try Constantine's Dream from her most recent (sigh) 2012 record Banga. If that doesn't hook you either, then probably no need to keep trying.
― TheNuNuNu, Monday, 10 February 2025 03:28 (six months ago)
I also cannot find my way into Arthur Russell, i think there’s something about the timbre of his voice that just feels uncomfortable to listen to. I’m sure he’s brilliant!
― JoeStork, Monday, 10 February 2025 03:49 (six months ago)
I've had the first two Tindersticks albums since they came out and have never managed to gain a single ounce of enjoyment from them. Am now giving them one last dreary spin on a rainy monday afternoon as i list them for sale on discogs. Good bloody riddance an' all.
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Monday, 10 February 2025 15:04 (six months ago)
Tricot.
Instrumentally the band are great but I really don't like the singing.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Monday, 10 February 2025 15:14 (six months ago)
Not unlike Tindersticks in that respect except his vocals are completely unbearable.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Monday, 10 February 2025 15:17 (six months ago)
Seconded for Arthur Russell except for Dinosaur L and “Is It All Over My Face”
― Dialysis Den (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 10 February 2025 15:21 (six months ago)
― LightUserSyndrome, Thursday, January 30, 2025 7:15 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
LOL this could be my post-2010 Mount Rushmore
― Indexed, Monday, 10 February 2025 17:04 (six months ago)
I'll have those two records off you, Nick! Honestly, that first album is a thing of wonder to me. 30(odd) years of listening to it and I'm no nearer the bottom of it. (Last pitch: listen to the horns at the end of 'Patchwork'.)
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 10 February 2025 17:20 (six months ago)
yeah i was a bit harsh on the first one, it does have its moments tbf. that second one still seems like an awful chore to me though, i think it's coloured my whole view of them. would gladly send them your way but i'm really broke atm and need the money, sorry! happy to do mates rates though if you're serious - https://www.discogs.com/seller/Mount_Analogue/profile
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Monday, 10 February 2025 17:41 (six months ago)
I was only a third-serious but thank you anyway.
To be real though, I'd forgotten how much those two records go for now, particularly the first one!
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 10 February 2025 18:19 (six months ago)
I'm working on Charli XCX now. I've tried a song here and there over the years, but all the talk about Brat convinced me to buy the Brat But Three More Songs version. The production is really good, especially "Von Dutch," but the lyrics are so whatever most of the time. It's almost like Paris Hilton fronting a Daft Punk/Aphex Twin collaboration.
I'm old, maybe it's just not for me. Chappell & Sabrina were recent favorites and a big part of that is how clever the wordplay is and their characters are interesting. Charli is so flat, there's nothing to latch onto. Maybe I need to focus more on the music.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 10 February 2025 18:28 (six months ago)
can't quite figure out if it's ever had an official re-issue on vinyl, looks like there are some boots out there though
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Monday, 10 February 2025 18:38 (six months ago)
Yeah, can't even be sure about that Plain reissue in the early 2010s.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 10 February 2025 20:17 (six months ago)
i still can't get into every man and woman is a star by ultramarine :-(
― brimstead, Sunday, 4 May 2025 22:34 (four months ago)
I'm thinking maybe just maybe this is the year I finally accept Lana Del Rey. I've liked a few of her songs here and there, but Norman Fucking Rockwell bored me, though admittedly I didn't give it a fair shake. I know she's put out a few since then and they've been totally off my radar, but I heard Bluebird and Henry the other day and liked them both. I have to say I'm impressed by how prolific she's been in just 13 or so years, which means if I fall for this new one I may have my work cut out for me.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 5 May 2025 04:02 (four months ago)
― hypothetical rogue notary (morrisp), Monday, 5 May 2025 04:18 (four months ago)
(sorry, I didn’t mean to quote your entire paragraph when I could’ve just replied to it… “Zing problems”)
― hypothetical rogue notary (morrisp), Monday, 5 May 2025 04:19 (four months ago)
xxp i did a listen front to back of her catalog a few years back because i'd immediately dismissed her from some SNL performance she did years ago. her Blue Banisters album was my gateway. NFW was a quick dismiss at first solely because of the sublime cover but i've since come around to it. a big appreciation was exactly that - she's actually putting out quality work at a clip few artists these days are doing.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 5 May 2025 04:37 (four months ago)
i'm not a synaethete or anything, but some music sounds like black and white/monochrome to me, and so i get put off...? anyone else get that? i think artwork can play a big part in it. two groups i feel this way about are gy!be and wilco. love most pies that jim o rourke has had his hands in, but fail to see why yankee hotel foxtrot is so rated.
the greatest challenge has been autechre. i'm into so much from their contemporaries on warp, mille plateaux, mego... but for like 20 years of trying to fuck with them, i just can't get away with it. don't get me wrong, i think they're wicked, incredible sound design, i could listen to sean talk all day, but i just can't sit through more than twenty minutes of their tunes without feeling stressed. i guess i'm a pop girlie at heart. i have enjoyed their most recent two studio albums more than anything else.
kinda feel the same way about björk. vespertine is an exception, tho.
― maelin, Monday, 5 May 2025 10:20 (four months ago)