help me ILM, you're my only hope

m-m-my b-b-bloody valentine?

flying saucer attack

Yeah, no guitar feedback in either of those!

Off the top of my head, try something from the TYPE catalogue? Maybe this

sorry lemme be a little more specific: i have a ton of MBV, JAMC, AR Kane, the whole early bit ... i am trawling maybe for some more overlooked stuff. what was that african american shoegaze band? veldt or something? and about the guitar feedback comment, i like MBV cause their noise isn't just feedback, unlike, say, JAMC. so heavily treated guitars are great, really.

The Veldt was good, but hardly noisy.

You should listen to the last song on Pharoah Sanders's Message From Home (I think) CD. The song is called "Country Mile" and it's poppy and noisy, and all the noise comes from a skronking saxophone.

what was that african american shoegaze band? veldt or something?

Yup. There is a separate Veldt as well on Myspace now, so avoid imitations. (The 'real' Veldt are now known as Apollo Heights.)

jesus, they're still around? thanks ned.

this isn't pop, but i love the new album so much i can't help myself:

http://www.myspace.com/theangelicprocess

shoegaze metal duo

melodic though, this is cool thanks scott

has anyone heard the all natural lemon & lime flavor dude's wobbly shoegaze band Ifwhen? ned must have:

http://www.myspace.com/ifwhen

I do. Great stuff! And I am so not surprised you love the Angelic Process, Scott! :-) I am pleased to see they're getting some big attention all of a sudden -- well deserved.

that one ANLLF album is still my fave american stereolab/mbv ripoff. Turning Into Small. i always meant to try some of their other albums, but i never did.

They're all pretty good -- two albums and a singles/rarities comp.

Anyway there's all the electronicgaze out there now so to answer the original question, dig up all that Fennesz and Schnauss and etc.

Deerhunter, maybe?

hey thanks again scott ... anyone know of stuff like this, but melded with electronics?

xpost yeah thanks ned i have a bnubunch of fennesz and just got some oren ambarchi, but i am going rockist on this one and looking for the mixed with the songs; what really floated by boat was that david sylvian/fennesz disc

xxpost jeez yeah i really wanted to like that deerhunter album ...

christ, 'the noise mixed with the songs'

i keep looking at the deerhunter stuff at the record store. is it no good?

oren too! i keep staring at that grapes from the estate vinyl and not knowing whether i want to make the plunge.

I've been enjoying the new Deerhunter. I think they appeal to me for the same reasons as MBV, which is why I recommended them. They use a lot of DigiDelay, to good effect.

to my ears, neither the songs nor the textures really distinguished themselves to me. the flourescent grey ep had a song on it i liked though maybe you could start there?

xxpost i have suspension and stacte motor, and ... uh, maybe grapes is better? i havent listened to them much but it sure is droney

basically, what i am looking for is somethinglike markus popp remixing fleetwood mac

gah xpost

I'm thinking of off-the-beaten-path stuff:

Experimental Aircraft's last album "Love For the Last Time" is often pretty stellar...shoegaze by way of Texas. If downloading, the track to check is "Symphony."

The early Smashing Orange collection "1991" that came out not long ago is also pretty good: US shoegaze imitators from back in the day who later annoyed lots of people when they turned into biker rockers or something like that. I actually like their subsequent "Glass Bead Game" CD quite a bit, but most people don't seem to.

nb just because i keep saying 'oh yeah um no' i still really appreicate all yalls suggestions! thanks!

checking out smashing orange as we speak ...