What CD constitutes genius?

you do it.

ok, I pick autechre tri repetae/garbage
They turned abrasive mechanical sounds into ambient music with specific emotions portrayed by subtle changes in beats and the nature of the synths/chords chosen. don't argue. too hard to explain. genius

now someone pick bob dylan so I can talk trash

autechre is more than one person? that hardly seems necessary.

They turned abrasive mechanical sounds into ambient music with specific emotions portrayed by subtle changes in beats and the nature of the synths/chords chosen. don't argue. too hard to explain. genius

I've spoken to cats who made more sense than this does.

bob dylan >>>>>> autechre

bob dylan >>> authechre

plus, a cat would know enough to run from any room where autechre was playing. geniuses are a dime a dozen. i had a calzone a couple years back, man oh man, whoever made that should have their hands bronzed and hung over the fireplace. not with their actual hands in bronze! i'm assuming some sort of cast is made when you bronze something.

If they ever make a Scott Seward hall of fame, I want this thread framed at the entrance.

John Lennon's Plastic Ono Band

the yes album. from the opening riffs and bombastic bass line. nothing had ever been so ridiculous but ruled so much. lost in losing circumstances. and they kept it up through close to the edge. damn

Pinkerton

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"Sgt. Pepper", even those way too many from post-punk generation don't realize how brilliant it is. Too bad.

"Sgt. Pepper", even those way too many from post-punk generation don't realize how brilliant it is. Too bad.

I've spoken to cats who made more sense than this does.

You're right. Even if you straighten up the spelling.

"CD"

C.C. DeVille, now there's a genius.

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"post-punk generation"

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the cd under the red sky constitute/s bob dylan as genius with wiggle wiggle (don't argue) and david crosby (too hard to explain)

With The Byrds and Flying Burrito Brothers, Gram Parsons had some flashes of inspiration but nothing too notable. Then, GP and Grievous Angel, as a two album progression, established him as a genius.

aw dude the first burritos album >>>>>>>>>> everything else gp's ever been associated with (and i like a lot of that stuff!)

ulysses unabridged books-on-tape

OMG no WAY is Guilded Palace of Sin better than the solo albums. I defy you to tell me you exist in the universe with that opinion!

i totally exist in the universe with that opinion!

I exist there as well.

hehe. this is one of those topics like 'why do some people obsess over dream theatre?'

if god said
-Will Oldham/ Palace/ Bonnie Prince Billy
-Jason Molina/ Songs;Ohia/ Magnolia Electric Co.
-The Mountain Goats
-The Weakerthans
-Phosphorescent
-Low
-Iron and Wine
-Uncle Tupelo
-Bob Dylan
-Townes Van Zandt
-The Replacements
-Talking Heads
-Joanna Newsom
-Clem Snide
-David Pajo/ Slint/ Papa M
-Frederic Chopin
-The Polyphonic Spree
-Rolling Stones
-Rachel's
-Billie Holiday
-Rob Crow/ Pinback/ Heavy Vegetable/ Thingy
-Dirty Three
-Les Savy Fav
-Superchunk (the older stuff)
-Murder City Devils
-Leonard Cohen
-Arcade Fire
-Rodan/ June of 44/ Shipping News
-Why?
-Mum
-Cat Stevens
-Andrew Bird
-Belle and Sebastian
-Bedhead/ The New Year
-Mississippi John Hurt
-Bitch Magnet/ Seam
-Johannes Brahms
-Nina Simone
-Simon and Garfunkel
-Franz Liszt
-Alexander Scriabin
-Charles Mingus
-Arvo Part
-Yann Tiersen

you would take his side over mine. more people listen to his type of music than mine. doesn't mean it's genius.

over course I don't know what god would say, but I imagine it would involve pavement and songs ohia

i think god likes preston school of industry more.

Shit man. Nothing is real.

i say lizzy mercier descloux constitutes genius. pop music needs to take some ideas from new wave/funk/soul.

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well obv Kate Bush The Dreaming

i totally exist in the universe with that opinion!

-- pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 20:29 (37 minutes ago) Link

I exist there as well.

-- Martin Van Burne, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 20:2

thirded

I have to just shrug to that one. Guilded Palace of Sin as his best? Um Kay.

Scott Walker - The Drift
-A masterpiece and work of genius. Totally untouchable. I'm truly sorry if you can't get into it.

Kate Bush - The Dreaming
-Possibly the only instance of Kate holding back nothing. She just pours all her genius into this record. Hounds of Love comes close to matching this. Honorable mention to Aerial for being yet another genius Kate album (although Ned got to Pi before Kate did)

Elliott Smith - Either/Or, XO
-I had to include both albums for being perfect start-to-finish, yet significantly different from eachother in their scope.

Bjork - Homogenic, Medulla
-Homogenic is just a ridiculously solid record that deserves to be remembered and I'm sure it will be. Unfortunately, Medulla doesn't get as much respect but in my opinion it's Bjork really pushing herself to a whole new level.

The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
-Everything the Smiths put out was genius but TQID is probably the most solid studio album of theirs. I'd definitely make a case for Louder Than Bombs/Hatful of Hollow because the Smiths were also an incredible singles band that I think is unmatched when it comes to b-sides.

Lick my decals off, Baby

where to begin with this - Dada-esque art of the highest order.

Ramones - first four or five.
they were given grief by some because the music was basic. if it was easy to play how come they had NO imitators? the elements they effortlessly fused along with the presentation screams genius to me.

no imitators? um...

Sergeant Pepper. Probably nothing else, if 'genius' is to be at all meaningful. Otherwise you're just listing your favourite bands' best records, or the top 100 albums of all time or something. Sergeant Pepper is genius because it took music that was already perfect, and added something else.

Oh don't be ridiculous.

i still can't figure out whether or not this is a joke thread or not.

I don't know either, it might be. Because I remember CaptainLorax was going on about "rock-folk" a couple of weeks ago.

Sorting Through Nu Folk Rock and Nu Folk

Sgt Pepper boosters are the geniuses of boring

I'm going to say a CD of someone reading walt whitman's poem, "song of myself"

If punk hadn't destroyed music, "Sgt. Pepper" would still have been considered the masterpiece by most people.

Music is not destroyed?! It will still be here, long after we've stopped typing away, my friend.

That's simply not true. There are a lot of other reasons why many people don't consider Sgt. Pepper the masterpiece, but you seem to filter everything through a model of the world that is too rigid to allow any possibilities but the ones you imagine. x

I'm kind of hesitant to propose this, as I'm sure it'll get shot down. Really the only album I own, out of thousands, that I'd consider out and out genius is The Moles "Untune The Sky."

I always have trouble putting this succintly, but the general reasons why have to do with:

1. Managing to combine the Beatles' pop and Revolution #9 sensibility in a way that detracts from neither, which is something that the Beatles (much less their followers) never managed.

2. Filled with songs that violate nearly every rule of traditional pop song structure, but without leaving the pop universe *and* never the same way twice.

3. An uncanny ability (see "Tendrils and Paracetamol" especially) to be indescribibly repetitive again without leaving the universe of pop.

4. Take almost any pop artist: Robyn Hitchcock, Beatles, etc. and it's not so hard to write a reasonably convincing pastiche. It's hard for me to imagine anyone doing this with the Moles with any success.

In sum, "Untune" isn't my favorite CD in my collection, but I simply can't imagine anyone ever producing anything like it, something I couldn't say about any number of theoretically weirder/better albums (e.g. Tilt, Trout Mask, Metal Machine, Sgt. Pepper, the list goes on...)

I could probably explain better if I weren't slightly drunk, but I swear I've felt this way for a long time.

i gotta try that one!

also, yeah punk might have destroyed lots of music but I believe punk can be saved

i think the reason that i love the moles 'untune the sky' is that it sounds like so many of my favorite flying nun bands all at once.

"If punk hadn't destroyed music, "Sgt. Pepper" would still have been considered the masterpiece by most people"

Sgt. Pepper isn't even the best Beatle album. Geir you're slipping.

Music is not destroyed?!

It sort of is. Before punk, music was judged from musical skills. After punk, all kinds of other criteria has been brought in, with skills often considered a bad thing rather than a good one.

"Sgt. Pepper" was a big influence on prog, whose values have for the most part been undervalued after punk.

Sgt. Pepper isn't even the best Beatle album.

It was until the mid 70s. It isn't until later that it has been overtaken by "Revolver" because concept albums became unfashionable.

The Beatles bore me.

So does Bob Dylan.

bob dylan >>>>>> autechre
-- marmotwolof, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:52 (Yesterday)

bob dylan >>> authechre
-- poortheatre, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:54 (Yesterday)

The inverse is true, fellas, and there aren't enough <'s in the world for me to properly express the equation.

Mitch All Together by Mitch Hedburg constitutes genius.

"Diet Dr. Pepper tastes just like regular Dr. Pepper? Well then, they fucked up."

Before punk, music was judged from musical skills. After punk, all kinds of other criteria has been brought in, with skills often considered a bad thing rather than a good one.

One day after time travel is invented there will be some kind of catastrophic accident which opens up a portal into the universe where this is true.

Here Come the Warm Jets --> Taking Tiger Mountain --> Another Green World --> Before and After Science

little known fact: there is no such album as Sgt. Pepper, it's a collective hallucination engineered by Masons

This thread is prosecution exhibit #1 for why we need Jessica Harbl back as an ILM mod.

But it's interesting to leap from fantasy world to fantasy world.

yeugggh... i hate apricots

also, yeah punk might have destroyed lots of music but I believe punk can be saved

-- CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 01:12 (Yesterday) Link

Who is sadder, Geir, or the guy who believes what Geir says?

OK WHO IS CAPTAINLORAX

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I'm going to say a CD of someone reading walt whitman's poem, "song of myself"

-- nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:21 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

It's genius because the author's fearlessness will inpire the listener/reader to be more brave, themselves.