How the hell do you organize your classical music in your iTunes?

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I got a new laptop and I've been ripping my whole collection. I'm going to murder CDDB. No consistency! Don't pretend like you don't care.

Name: 'Alkan: Alleluia, op. 25'
Time: '2:42'
Artist: 'Marc-Andre Hamelin'
Album: 'Alkan: Symphony for Solo Piano, etc'

Definitley list the players in smaller chamber music pieces..

Artist: 'Stephen Hough (Piano), Steven Isserlis (Cello)'

But what about string quartets? Should you list all the players names? Octets?

Concertos? Under soloist go first, then the conductor, then the orchestra?

Artist: 'Geza Anda (Piano), Ferenc Fricsay (Cond); Cleveland Orchestra"

Opera? Should you list the major characters? I have this now...

Artist: 'Karl Bohm; Bayreuth Symphony Orchestra'

Under each track, though, should you have the vocal lead-in?

'Act I, Scene II: "Wovon nicht mann sprechen kann..'

so many questions.

poortheatre, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 03:54 (eighteen years ago)

It's less that I don't care and more that I'm too lazy

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:26 (eighteen years ago)

so you just keep whatever titles it gives you?

half of my mahler/bertini box was in japanese **

poortheatre, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 06:18 (eighteen years ago)

Man up and buy some regular records.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 06:33 (eighteen years ago)

I put mine under the conductor all the time. And the composer under the composer. Of course, I don't really have any recordings that are (I don't think) famous for the players. Like, I have Bernstein's Mahler stuff. I couldn't tell you who is playing though.

Mordechai Shinefield, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 06:44 (eighteen years ago)

yea, but if you have multiple recordings of the same work, then you have note the player.

i do have regular records! i'm burning my fall peel sessions right now. no probz.

poortheatre, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 07:08 (eighteen years ago)

gear will save me

poortheatre, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 07:08 (eighteen years ago)

I just abandon performer names (life's too short/money's too tight for lots of recordings of the same piece) and stick composer name in the artist slot. Until iTunes comes up with a half decent customisable interface, that'll have to do.

Tim R-J, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 08:14 (eighteen years ago)

Poortheatre, you have multiple recordings of the same piece by the same conductor with just different players?

Holy shit.

Mordechai Shinefield, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

... actually, no.

but i might sometime!

poortheatre, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

wait, i have some strauss orchestral music under karajan with different folks. but no soloists..

poortheatre, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

RECYCLE BIN

sanskrit, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

you're never going to reach audiophile-levels of anal retention with itunes.

ian, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

is there a superior alternative?

i used winamp for years. i'm thinking of getting an iPod, though, so I decided to go for iTunes on my new computer. i didn't know it was all stored in m4a. hmm..

poortheatre, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

vinyl, sucka.

ian, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

I usually just put it under the composer's name unless it's an album of the same player(s) performing works by various composers, or an album I bought specifically because of the player(s).

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

i'm thinking of getting an iPod, though, so I decided to go for iTunes on my new computer. i didn't know it was all stored in m4a. hmm..

iTunes can rip in mp3, too. Edit->Preferences->Advanced tab->Importing subtab. You can do AAC/m4a format, AIFF (ha), MP3, uncompressed WAV, and Apple Lossless (the latter two only if you have a hugantic hard drive and WILL NOT TOLERATE COMPRESSION DAMMIT).

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

is there any reason not to keep m4a? space-wise, i mean..

poortheatre, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

Not if space is your primary concern- m4a is a slightly more efficient compression scheme than mp3 at the same bitrate. I rip to mp3 just to have stuff in a more widely used format- I use an ipod myself, but this way I can trade music with friends who use different portable players.

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

This shit drives me crazy. I put the composer's name in the artist field, overall works in the album field, movements etc. in the song field. Then I curse my sorry fate.

J0hn D., Wednesday, 25 July 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

It's definitely a pain. Hopefully iTunes will put out software for the iPod that organizes classical music differently. Musicmatch already has complex tag fields for classical.

Mordechai Shinefield, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)


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