The hip-hop Blur Vs Oasis! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6942209.stm
― The Twisted Pollstarter, Saturday, 11 August 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)
Go Kanye!
― StanM, Saturday, 11 August 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)
SRSLY!
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 11 August 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)
I may just have to buy Kanye West's album now.
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 11 August 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)
50 cent is so cold nyc can't deal w it
― luriqua, Saturday, 11 August 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)
it's not NYC's fault that he's never been able to write a single anywhere near as good as his breakthrough
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 11 August 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)
"Stronger" still sucks.
― Tape Store, Saturday, 11 August 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)
http://a277.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01501/67/27/1501717276_l.jpg
― luriqua, Saturday, 11 August 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)
Last two posts both OTM
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 11 August 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)
Plus Fiddy at his RnB ringtone worst > Kanye at his "hey, remember this song?" sampling worst
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 11 August 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)
Stronger is horribly disappointing.
― bnw, Saturday, 11 August 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)
it's garbage, for sure
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 11 August 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)
"Stronger" is just ok but it's one of Kanye's best where "I Get Money" is 50's worst solo single. Hard to pick a side here: single I like better vs. rapper I like much, much better
― milo z, Saturday, 11 August 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)
"I Get Money" is 50's worst solo single.
This is very wrong.
― The Brainwasher, Saturday, 11 August 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)
also, "Can't Tell Me Nothin" >>>>>>>>>>> "Stronger"
"Stronger" is just ok but it's one of Kanye's best
WAHT
― marmotwolof, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)
Through the Wire and Gold Digger are miles beyond Stronger, to name two
― marmotwolof, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)
'i get money' is better than anything kanye has released from this one so far
― deej, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)
"Can't Tell Me Nothin" is better than "Stronger" but at the same time it sounds like Moby
― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)
Which one's Blur, and which one's Oasis?
If I believed Fiddy I would probably pony up for Kanye's album. I'm not a huge fan of either, but at least with Kanye I can expect one killer single from each of his albums.
― musically, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)
I'm buying both albums.
― The Brainwasher, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)
Okay, now rumor has it that Kanye pushed his album back:
http://mediatakeout.com/9899/50_cent_wins_kanyes_album_changes_release_date.html
― The Brainwasher, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.blinne.org/photos/uncategorized/siren.gifhttp://mediatakeout.com/photo/118684279150centwins.jpghttp://www.blinne.org/photos/uncategorized/siren.gif
― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)
Good thing if it's true...how could they both have handled all that extra publicity?
― musically, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)
50 should change his release date as well
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 11 August 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)
yeah that would be funny as fuck
― marmotwolof, Saturday, 11 August 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)
only Kanye song I like better than Stronger is the one w/ Paul Wall
― milo z, Saturday, 11 August 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)
you have weird taste, "stronger" and "drive slow" are like his two worst singles.
― The Brainwasher, Saturday, 11 August 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)
no Jamie Foxx + multiple distractions from Kanye rapping = favorites
― milo z, Saturday, 11 August 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)
the entire sample in "Stronger" is a distraction from Kanye rapping
― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 11 August 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)
I think that's what he meant.
― marmotwolof, Saturday, 11 August 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
"I'm not looking for commitment/we can fuck and be friends" >>>>> Kanye's dyke line
"Follow My Lead" is a bit boring, but I still prefer it to "Stronger" and "Can't Tell Me Nothin'"
Kanye always coasts on the production...when that fails, the song always sucks (well, unless he's able to find a rapper who can actually, y'know, rap well). Lately, though, he's found a way to ruin semi-good production (see "Can't Tell Me Nothin'"). I'll be surprised if Graduation is half as good as Late Registration.
― Tape Store, Sunday, 12 August 2007 01:14 (eighteen years ago)
50 cent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kanye west >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>50 cent >>>>>>50 cent >>>>>>>>>>>>>kanye west >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 cent > 50 cent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kayne west
― am0n, Sunday, 12 August 2007 01:19 (eighteen years ago)
Not that I really care about either but I've enjoyed a few Kanye West beats but have hated all 50 cent songs including the one everyone here inexplicably considers genius.
― filthy dylan, Sunday, 12 August 2007 02:01 (eighteen years ago)
which one is that
― marmotwolof, Sunday, 12 August 2007 02:36 (eighteen years ago)
"Hate It Or Love It"?
― milo z, Sunday, 12 August 2007 02:39 (eighteen years ago)
oh I like that one the best
― marmotwolof, Sunday, 12 August 2007 02:40 (eighteen years ago)
that's a Game single tho...
― The Brainwasher, Sunday, 12 August 2007 02:41 (eighteen years ago)
Best 50 single = "Like My Style". That was a single right?
Technically on a Game album though, by the time I bought The Massacre it had been removed, and that was a remix version that I've never even heard. x-post!
― marmotwolof, Sunday, 12 August 2007 02:41 (eighteen years ago)
(but it's 50's song...that first verse is unbelievable)
― Tape Store, Sunday, 12 August 2007 02:43 (eighteen years ago)
I like the Game. Usually I ignore 50s undecipherable mummbling. Oh and "In the club" to cross reference a previous post.
― filthy dylan, Sunday, 12 August 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)
that's my pistol on my BITCH, nigga fuck that box. that's how pete got knockt. that's a jewl i dropt. b'twin peak that nigga go 'head, repeat dat nigga u myt lern a lil sumthn if u lern t'stop frontn
― luriqua, Sunday, 12 August 2007 04:13 (eighteen years ago)
I liked Many Men (Wish Death) the most out of the Get Rich singles. I mean, I don't think it was released as a single but there was a video for it on MTV so I'm counting it.
― marmotwolof, Sunday, 12 August 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)
Don't ever fix your lips like collagen Then say something where you gon end up apolog'in Let me know if it's a problem then A'ight man, holla then.
― Tape Store, Sunday, 12 August 2007 04:31 (eighteen years ago)
50 threatening to quit right after he made 50 million on his vitamin water deal--sounds more like wanting to out of top, and since it seems he barely has any "artistic" ambitions, that would be the smart move.
― mulla atari, Sunday, 12 August 2007 04:38 (eighteen years ago)
to go out on top, obv.
""artistic""
― marmotwolof, Sunday, 12 August 2007 05:16 (eighteen years ago)
"artistic"
― mulla atari, Sunday, 12 August 2007 05:36 (eighteen years ago)
Just rescuing the word from excessive quotation marks.
― mulla atari, Sunday, 12 August 2007 05:37 (eighteen years ago)
isn't he too limited tonally to be amazing? has he ever strayed from the Mase-like monotone? surely how you say it as well as what you say is the mark of amazing MC.
― blueski, Thursday, 20 September 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)
"Stronger" now the #1 in the country.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 September 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)
because amazing mcs make records that sell 200,000 copies, not 5 million.
sick sad world
― blueski, Thursday, 20 September 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)
Daria would totally have dated Kanye
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 September 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)
has he ever strayed from the Mase-like monotone?
uh dude is all abt melodic hooks - also he is so great - and he is tired of using technology
― jhøshea, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)
Having the most inexplicable hook of the year on your side is a good thing, obv.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)
have you heard that one where the corus is just him going ahaha... ahahahaha
― jhøshea, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)
isn't he too limited tonally to be amazing? has he ever strayed from the Mase-like monotone? surely how you say it as well as what you say is the mark of amazing MC
Breezly Brewin from Juggaknots has a monotone and he's one of the rippinest MCs ever. And Erick Sermon changed hip-hop with his monotone.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)
xp: "Straight to the Bank"? If so, that's Yayo, but I have a feeling that's not what you're talking about.
Erick Sermon is k-classic, of course. EPMD invented middle-ground rap, did they not?
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)
yeah thats the one - funny!
― jhøshea, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)
those dudes were stoooooned
― jhøshea, Thursday, 20 September 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)
are you asking this about 50 or kanye
― and what, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)
Eh, probably, but that song is rote as all fuck. (xp)
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)
the laughing is not rote as fuck or as anything - its hilarious
― jhøshea, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)
Kanye doesn't rap in a monotone, come on
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)
when kanye says he "can't get much wronger" i think he acknowleges as much
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)
EPMD invented middle-ground rap, did they not?
tentative o_O
until i can figure out who exactly invented middle-ground rap.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)
Double Trouble
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)
no wait UTFO
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)
I'm not gonna vouch for the accuracy of that statement, I'm just tossing it out there.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)
I don't understand this term "middle-ground rap"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)
like somewhere between underground and pop, I guess...?
Rap-rap
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)
Like who was the Foo Fighters of rap?
http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/nice%20and%20smooth.thumbnail.jpg
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)
I stole that phrase from Deej or Ethan or Al. But yeah, subgenreless rap-rap.
xp: I'd like to hear that.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)
well of course im not talking abt gully underground (which is ok right now) and south underground (which is fucking great) but all the mcs at the far end of the national popular spectrum-- like i said above it used to be 50 and fat joe and nore and xzibit, all talented rappers who just hadnt blown up yet, but now it seems like everyone is underground by choice instead of circumstance
-- $$, Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:12 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
― and what, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)
there is nothing "middle ground" abt nice n smooth
― jhøshea, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)
fcuk what am i doin on ilm
nice & smooth were bubblegum boom bap
― and what, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)
WHAT KILLED THE UNDERGROUND
^^ Good middle-ground rap discussion.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)
(That's the thread where I phrase-jacked from, btw)
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)
"in '96 when everybody was singing shit on hooks, the underground came with that raw '88 style... now everybody's doing this artsy fartsy emotional shit, i dont think its hip-hop"
― and what, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)
J-Zone - It just lost its edge completely. Anything rugged is described as non hip-hop. Everybody is scared to be considered thug or scared to be considered rugged. Everybody is scared to be funny. People just want to talk about the world ending over these spaced invader ass pseudo-techno beats and it's fucking noise to me! All this shit is noise. All this fucking art fag shit is straight noise to me and it just sounds like crap. People are so busy elevating and uplifting that they forget how to entertain. Back in the day X-Clan and Public Enemy would do both, but nowadays people are so busy trying to be prophets and save the world. Everybody is wearing all this corduroy shit and it's just like all his fucking space shit!! FUCK ALL THAT BIG WORDS SHIT!! That's why I listen to what I listen to, because I don't wanna hear all that big nerd shit. I wanna hear, "In My Neighborhood" by Spice 1. That's my shit.
― and what, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)
I don't care if you're white black a bitch or a fucking bum off of the streets. If you rap about shooting people, smoking blunts, wearing timbs, drinking hennessy, and whatever else, I'll buy your music. If you rap about your girl, but don't call her a bitch, fuck you. If you rap about the economy and how its hurts migrant workers, fuck you. If you rap about your rap telekenisis or some equally retarded nerd shit, fuck you. That basically how I break it down to an extent.
-- dat nigga delmar, Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:55 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
this is some of the dumbest aesthetic criteria I've ever heard
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)
u <3 it
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)
Worst part about that thread is people throwing the baby out with the bathwater by criticizing a set of rappers who threw the baby out with the bathwater.
Like it would kill anyone to ride for JT The Bigga Figga AND Antipop Consortium.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)
coutnry and wetsern lol
― deej, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)
Mac Dre and Mac Lethal would have made that sentence more poetic, I realize.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)
If there's one music group whose very name makes me never want to hear their music, Antipop Consortium is it. (I know, I know, exactly what you're railing against, but who gives a fuck.)
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)
its okay they're music's bad anyway
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)
THEIR wtf
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)
loooloez u use RONG werd!
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)
Antipop Consortium is great. Haters be damned!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)
antipop consortium >>>>>>>>> mac lethal
― deej, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)
false advertising in rap names
1. mac lethal
thought this would a bay area thizzed out mac dre/mac mall type not white emo nerd rap cat - mp3 deleted
-- and what, Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:07 AM (4 weeks ago) Bookmark Link
― and what, Thursday, 20 September 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)
Mac Lethal is great.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 September 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)
fuck the world
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 20 September 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)
lol u mad (and rong)
― HI DERE, Thursday, 20 September 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)
"Strongay", morelike
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 September 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)