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Here we discuss arguably the best sci-fi score of all time and a career peak for the Greek God of the Synthesizer, Vangelis, just off the Academy Award-winning Chariots of Fire. But where the earlier score was soft, crystalline and English, Blade Runner was moody, dark and cut from a relentless futurism. Chock full of hissing string pads and CS-80 brass swells, sumptuous Baker Street sax and vocal arabesques, ambient whispers and proto-techno, Vangelis recorded music for almost every second of the movie -- and then some.
Incredibly, a proper release of the score has never been issued. Despite almost instant acclaim, an official release was only given in 1994, featuring re-recorded bits, dialog from the movie and, worst of all, a mere single disc's worth of material. Myriad bootlegs have surfaced over the years -- the one I dl'd is the Esper Edition, which is quite good and about as definitive as it gets.
What say ILM about this legendary recording?
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 01:31 (eighteen years ago)
Classic. Always takes me to, well, another world when I listen to it. Timeless in a retro-futuristic way, both in 1982 and now.
How can I tell if it's the Esper boot I'm looking at?
― Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)
Best soundtrack ever.
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 01:59 (eighteen years ago)
Definitive edition of the soundtrack is due later in the year to parallel the DVD set.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)
See also "Los Angeles - November 2019" which I like a lot and is described as so: "It's not a bootleg version of the soundtrack. Instead, it uses ambience and sound effects from the film (and, according to some sources, also from the Blade Runner video game) along with some of the music low in the mix to recreate the atmosphere of Blade Runner's world. It's a kind of aural travelogue through the film's near future L.A., a somnambulic drift through a seedy, bustling, rain soaked moloch of a city. To give you an idea, think of a brooding, nocturnal urbane counterpart to KLF's Chill Out album." More info about it and the various bootlegs here: http://square-dancing.blogspot.com/2006/07/blade-runner-soundtrack.html
― Lie Bot, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)
Absolutely essential.
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:17 (eighteen years ago)
Man, I'm going to be dumping a load of money on Blade Runner stuff later this year, aren't I?
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:22 (eighteen years ago)
fuck, there's a new revamped soundtrack too? SO MUCH SHIT TO BUY ARRRGH OVERLOAD
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:30 (eighteen years ago)
I wish they gave you the soundtrack with the DVDs instead of, you know, a freaking suitcase.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)
i'm guessing the new soundstrack is without the snippets of dialogue awkwardly forced into the songs
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)
God, tell me about it. I especially love how the sensibly-packaged versions omit the fifth disc with the workprint just to make fanatics like myself shell out for some flimsy, ugly-ass packaging that won't fit properly on a shelf.
But an expanded soundtrack...! My CD copy is scratched all to hell and I'd been pondering replacing it with the recent UK reissue; now I can't help but think "well, maybe I should pick up both, so I have the 1994 release's running order..."
I am a pathetic junkie and I may need help.
― Telephone thing, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:37 (eighteen years ago)
Ned, will we not have to buy the suitcase, then? Is it a multi-disc set?
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:41 (eighteen years ago)
It's actually cheaper to get the five disc version in HD DVD or blue ray, about the same as getting the four disc in normal DVD. But that requires having an HD DVD or blue Ray player.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:42 (eighteen years ago)
According to my quick perusal of Amazon just now, there are a lot of different versions coming out in regular DVD. Basically, there is a two disc version, a four disc version, and the five disc version with the suitcase. The four disc version seems to be the most reasonable of the lot, but it doesn't come with the workprint.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 02:43 (eighteen years ago)
I'm taking the simple approach -- ask for the five DVD set for Xmas. (Since, conveniently, it is released right before Xmas.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:01 (eighteen years ago)
My friends don't like me THAT much.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)
(I'm talking family in my case.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:09 (eighteen years ago)
Ned - do you have a link for info about the forthcoming soundtrack?
― Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:11 (eighteen years ago)
My family doesn't like me THAT much.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:12 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, come on, Ned -- give up the 411 on this "definitive edition" of which you brag...
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:35 (eighteen years ago)
From a couple months back:
Hi Everyone,Just finish "BLADE RUNNER" Version 2 project with VANGELIS ..... Three months of works including restoring tape process and new mixes with the last Euphonix Serie 5 desk.
Just finish "BLADE RUNNER" Version 2 project with VANGELIS ..... Three months of works including restoring tape process and new mixes with the last Euphonix Serie 5 desk.
Something's up.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:36 (eighteen years ago)
Similar post, found elsewhere:
June 27th 2007 - Blog of Vangelis' collaborator, Frederick Rousseau: here is a snip from the blog of Vangelis' collaborator, Frederick Rousseau: "Hi Everyone, Just finish the "BLADE RUNNER" Version 2 project with VANGELIS ..... Three months of works including restoring tape process and new mixes with the last Euphonix Serie 5 desk. This Project brings back a lot of memories to Vangelis from that laps of time. During the last weeks we found a lot of unreleased cues and musics composed for the film and never used in it.... ( Interesting moment of discovery ... ) Blade Runner released date: October 2007".
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:54 (eighteen years ago)
man as much as i love this record i am recently way more into the escape from new york soundtrack
― r1o natsume, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 04:37 (eighteen years ago)
also, if anyone has the new american orchestra version for ysi i would be much olbiged
― r1o natsume, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 04:39 (eighteen years ago)
I highly recommend listening to this while driving around Los Angeles at night!
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 06:57 (eighteen years ago)
bonus points if this is your ride:
http://dc-mrg.english.ucsb.edu/WarnerTeach/E192/Images/BR.Spinners.jpg
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 07:01 (eighteen years ago)
The suitcase comes out the day after my birthday. And I find the Amazon US preorder price to be in fact kinda reasonable.
I don't know which bootleg version of the soundtrack I have on my iPod (it has all the synth music, plus two old 78-sounding love songs and the audio from the movie's trailer) but it's fucking great. I downloaded it after listening to Arve Henriksen's Strjon, because one track from that album was very reminiscent of the BR opening music.
― unperson, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 11:18 (eighteen years ago)
Esper Edition tracklisting:
1. Prologue And Main Titles - 3:53 2. Leon's Voight Kampff Test - Sushi Bar - 1:37 3. Damask Rose - 2:00 4. Spinner Ascent (Los Angeles November 2019) - 1:31 5. Blush Response - 5:45 6. Wait For Me - 5:18 7. Deckard Meets Rachel - Rachel's Voight Kampff Test - 1:36 8. Rachel's Song - 4:20 9. Tales Of The Future (On The Trail Of Nexus 6) - 4:53 10. Bicycle Riders (Harps Of The Ancient Temples) - 2:11 11. Chew's Eye Lab - 1:17 12. Memories Of Green - 5:31 13. Blade Runner Blues (Extended version) - 10:07 14. Pris Meets J.F. Sebastian - 1:41 15. One More Kiss, Dear - 3:57 16. Deckard's Dream - 1:11 17. Thinking Of Rachel (Love Theme Different Take) - 1:17 18. Esper Analysis - Animoid Row Part 1 - 3:59 19. Animoid Row Part 2 - 1:10 20. Taffey Lewis' Night Club - 2:01 21. Salome's Dance - 1:23 22. Zhora's Retirement - 1:42 23. I Am The Business - 1:29 24. Love Theme (Extended Version) - 5:56 25. I Dreamt Music (Alternative Love Theme) - 4:22 26. Morning At The Bradbury - 3:34 27. The Prodigal Son Brings Death - 3:41 28. Deckard Enters The Bradbury - 3:01 29. Dangerous Days - 0:57 30. Wounded Animals - 10:55 31. Tears In Rain - 2:54 32. Rachel Sleeps - 2:01 33. End Titles (Extended Version) - 7:22
― caek, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)
I am "on" it. Haven't ever really listened to this without watching the movie, but it's probably as lovely on its own.
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)
I like it. It goes very well with bright blue LED lights.
― Richard Wood Johnson, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)
I downloaded it after listening to Arve Henriksen's Strjon, because one track from that album was very reminiscent of the BR opening music.
Which cut? I'm intrigued...
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)
I want the work print, but I do not want the trinkets and briefcase. You can get the five-disc edition without the crap in HD or Bluray, but not on regular DVD. Bah.
― caek, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)
It comes out two days before my birthday! Go figure that.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)
It should be noted here that SEVERAL themes from this are catchy as all hell.
My current fave: Mary Hopkin's wordless cooing on "Rachel's Song."
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 August 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)
> Which cut? I'm intrigued...
Can't remember now, and it could be that there was no actual melodic similarity, just one of those instances where a piece of music psychically triggers the need to hear another piece by someone else.
― unperson, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)
http://media.bladezone.com/esper.php
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)
i used to put the movie on and just go sit on the doorstep smoking a cigarette and listening to the soundtrack.
theres no other movie I would even consider doing that with.
then the soundtrack came out and the ritual was lost.
off topic but Bladerunner is the one reason Im considering a HDTV this year.
p.s. dont touch the orchestral vinyl soundtrack. it sells on ebay occaisionally for good money and was a blatant cash in.
― Hamildan, Friday, 24 August 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)
So I still can't find hide nor hair about an official 25th anniversary release of the soundtrack...
― Mr. Odd, Saturday, 22 September 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)
You'll have to steal it.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 September 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20056516,00.html
― s1ocki, Saturday, 22 September 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)
...in a cute supporting role alongside Tom Selleck in the CBS movie-of-the-week Jesse Stone: Sea Change.
This combination is all the more sad when you think about the two of them in the screen test for Raiders of the Lost Ark that's on the extra DVD with the box set.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 September 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)
But WHOA on that James Woods bit:
Some bitterness dies hard. In a 1992 EW cover story on Young, Woods sounded a note of contrition when he said that ''I love and admire Sean,'' and elsewhere he has been quoted as saying ''Maybe she'll say it's time to bury the hatchet. I can only be a gentleman and say I hope for the best.'' But when approached again for this piece, he struck back at the actress in four angry and raw e-mails sent to EW over the course of 12 hours, cc'd to his lawyer and publicist. He wrote, among other things, that the actress perpetrated a ''jihad of terror'' against him and his now ex-wife, that this all ''was certainly not about spurned advances, as they were most assuredly not spurned,'' and that ''I am sure it is fashionable to bash the guy (yawn) and pity the poor woman.'' (He also stressed that a highly publicized urban legend, wherein Young superglued his penis to his leg, was entirely false and if the magazine suggested otherwise he'd take EW to court. The actress also denies the incident.) His lawyer quickly followed up Woods' eruption with an e-mail saying the messages had been accidentally sent, and insisted EW only quote his client using the following statement: ''These incidents took place over 20 years ago, and I have moved on and would suggest Ms. Young do the same.''
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 September 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)
oh man
― s1ocki, Saturday, 22 September 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)
watching the final cut in the theater really makes the official version of this score seem like an insult
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)
Yup.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)
When the end credits started I could barely move.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)
otoh listening to "blade runner blues" from the lame old OST makes me feel like the loneliest man alive*.
* which I might be.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 November 2007 10:07 (eighteen years ago)
haha Ned when I saw it (twice) it was the opening credits that made me feel like a tiny bastard for having a bladder!
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 November 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)
Hahah wow. But I hear you. Talk about how a few sounds just nail you to the wall (or rather the chair).
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 November 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)
Rather than spend $80 on the set, ask for a Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD player for the holidays (available in certain sales for $98), then rent the HD Bladerunner from Netflix. Best way to truly enjoy the enhanced picture/sound (if you have a good screen and soundsystem).
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 10 November 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)
here you go! grab it while you can as 'they' keep taking it down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbDOl1QHerE
― piscesx, Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:40 (twelve years ago)
Funny that this reboot and teh star wars both have a theme of "we found harrison ford and its 20 years later! "
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:47 (eight years ago)
Coffee shop was playing the cut from the soundtrack with Demis Roussos's voice today. Nice way to begin the morning.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 July 2017 17:14 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FhEpif1cA
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:21 (eight years ago)
My all-time favorite soundtrack. None of the officially released versions satisfy, though, so I found the 3 disc "EMS Recombination" version. It picks up all the random bits from the film and then some!
Details here:http://www.vangelis-rarities.com/index.php?methode=methode1&id=191
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 21 July 2017 02:09 (eight years ago)
Well, have spent a lot of fruitless time trying to find a way to download that :(
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 21 July 2017 04:06 (eight years ago)
It's all over slsk.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 21 July 2017 04:14 (eight years ago)
all those hours will be like tears in rain
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Monday, 24 July 2017 17:33 (eight years ago)
The sound design of 'Blade Runner' shaped me as much as the soundtrack--and both were pivotal for 14-year-old-me, circa 1994 and the 'Director's Cut'. And the film and the sound have stuck with me over all these years. Discovering the sound-design-focused bootleg 'Los Angeles, November 2019' some years back, I've wanted to make a mix that treated those sounds as field recordings, to pair with contemporary music that felt like it came from the world of 'Blade Runner' as much as our own world. Now here we are in 2019--and our world is quickly tilting toward 'Blade Runner's, minus the flying cars. But the isolation-in-a-crowd, the paranoiac uncertainty about the meaning of “real,” and oligarchic dehumanization of the oppressed feel intimately familiar. And I realized a lot of my favorite music from this year sounds exactly like what music would sound like in that nocturnal Los Angeles.
So I've put together 'Like Tears, In Rain' as a tribute to today's music and the beautiful squalor of 'Blade Runner':
https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/musicophilia_00_various_-_like-tears-in-rain_2019_cover.jpg
Various – ‘Like Tears, In Rain’ (2019)[Music in the World of ‘Blade Runner’]I. Chinatown[00:00] Elucid – “A Great Many Wishes” (‘Every Egg I Cracked Today’, 2019)[02:30] Hildur Gudnadottir– “Gallery” (‘Chernobyl’, 2019)II. Police Headquarters[04:50] Debby Friday– “Indulge Me” (‘Bitchpunk’, 2019)III. Tyrell Corporation[08:15] Yosuke Tokunaga – “Cabinet” (‘8 Furnitures’, 2019)[10:50] Tim Hecker – “Step Away From Konoyo” (‘Anoyo’, 2019)IV. Apartment 9732[15:15] Yatta – “Francis” (‘Wahala’, 2019)[19:35] Thom Yorke – “Dawn Chorus” (‘Anima’, 2019)V. Downtown[25:15] Burial – “State Forest” (‘Claustro’ EP, 2019)[30:35] These New Puritans – “A-R-P” (‘Inside The Rose’, 2019)VI. Animoid Row[36:45] Christian Scott aTunde Adjuah – “I Own The Night” (‘Ancestral Recall’, 2019)VII. DNA Row[42:20] Andrew Wasylyk – “Through The Field Beyond the Trees” (‘The Paralian’, 2019)[43:50] Nelson Bandela – “Balance 101” (‘Fantastic’, 2019)VIII. Apartment 9732[45:30] Sequoyah Murray – “I Wonder” (‘Before You Begin’, 2019)[49:30] Charles Hayward – “Watching You” (‘Begin Anywhere’, 2019)IX. Downtown[53:00] Country Florist – “Outlastr” (‘Outlastr’ EP, 2019)X. The Bradbury[57:05] Lealani – “The Mountain” (‘Fantastic Planet’, 2019)[60:25] Clipping – “Nothing Is Safe” (‘There Existed an Addiction to Blood’, 2019)[65:25] Fran & Flora – “Doina I” (‘Unfurl’, 2019)[Total Time: 71:00]
[Music in the World of ‘Blade Runner’]
I. Chinatown[00:00] Elucid – “A Great Many Wishes” (‘Every Egg I Cracked Today’, 2019)[02:30] Hildur Gudnadottir– “Gallery” (‘Chernobyl’, 2019)
II. Police Headquarters[04:50] Debby Friday– “Indulge Me” (‘Bitchpunk’, 2019)
III. Tyrell Corporation[08:15] Yosuke Tokunaga – “Cabinet” (‘8 Furnitures’, 2019)[10:50] Tim Hecker – “Step Away From Konoyo” (‘Anoyo’, 2019)
IV. Apartment 9732[15:15] Yatta – “Francis” (‘Wahala’, 2019)[19:35] Thom Yorke – “Dawn Chorus” (‘Anima’, 2019)
V. Downtown[25:15] Burial – “State Forest” (‘Claustro’ EP, 2019)[30:35] These New Puritans – “A-R-P” (‘Inside The Rose’, 2019)
VI. Animoid Row[36:45] Christian Scott aTunde Adjuah – “I Own The Night” (‘Ancestral Recall’, 2019)
VII. DNA Row[42:20] Andrew Wasylyk – “Through The Field Beyond the Trees” (‘The Paralian’, 2019)[43:50] Nelson Bandela – “Balance 101” (‘Fantastic’, 2019)
VIII. Apartment 9732[45:30] Sequoyah Murray – “I Wonder” (‘Before You Begin’, 2019)[49:30] Charles Hayward – “Watching You” (‘Begin Anywhere’, 2019)
IX. Downtown[53:00] Country Florist – “Outlastr” (‘Outlastr’ EP, 2019)
X. The Bradbury[57:05] Lealani – “The Mountain” (‘Fantastic Planet’, 2019)[60:25] Clipping – “Nothing Is Safe” (‘There Existed an Addiction to Blood’, 2019)[65:25] Fran & Flora – “Doina I” (‘Unfurl’, 2019)
[Total Time: 71:00]
If you're curious, stream or download here: https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2019/09/28/blade-runner-like-tears/
― Soundslike, Saturday, 28 September 2019 20:17 (six years ago)
wow, thanks!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 September 2019 20:23 (six years ago)
Will listenIf it were my mix I would sub out thom yorke for some hke or dream catalogue stuff
― calstars, Saturday, 28 September 2019 20:38 (six years ago)
I'm not huge on solo Thom Yorke, but that particular track just fit irrefutably, to my ears, so I had to include it (given especially I'm drawing entirely from 2019 music). . .
― Soundslike, Saturday, 28 September 2019 20:40 (six years ago)
A dodgy fileshare link to 'Los Angeles, November 2019' is here, btw - http://download-soundtracks.com/movie_soundtracks/blade-runner-los-angeles-november-2019-soundtrack-by-vangelis/
(mentioned at the top of this thread)
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 September 2019 20:48 (six years ago)
Well, that certainly puts my half-hearted attempt at a Blade Runner-themed playlist from a few years back to shame!
I think I went at it from a different angle and had a few Kuedo tracks that were indebted to Vangelis’ original end credits and a fair amount of Dream Catalogue material
― mh, Saturday, 28 September 2019 21:03 (six years ago)
Two mentions of Dream Catalogue as related to Blade Runner, never heard of it/them, so will have to investigate.
I think the key for me for this mix was thinking of music that seemed like it could come from the world of Blade Runner, not necessarily music that was especially influenced by 'Blade Runner'. Probably a high degree of overlap in truth, but allowed me to escape the shadow of Vangelis somewhat, while still honoring what he created.
― Soundslike, Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:23 (six years ago)
Yeah, hke has said that the BR soundtrack played a part in the creation of DC. “Why doesn’t anyone make music like this anymore” or something to that effect
― calstars, Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:28 (six years ago)
Amazing, thank you
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 29 September 2019 02:30 (six years ago)
Kuedo's Severance was I think entirely indebted to blending footwork with Bladerunner and one of my favorite records of this soon to be ending decade.
Dream Catalogue I'm familiar with only from 2814, but it appears to be one of the only remaining vaporwave labels with any consistency and credibility. They basically churn out "Bladerunner" style vaporwave music!
― octobeard, Monday, 30 September 2019 21:28 (six years ago)
DC is not the only “consistent, credible” v wave label around. There’s Geometric Lullaby, My pet Flamingo, pure life, global pattern, virtual dream plaza, BLCR, the Infiniti pool, DMT Tapes FL, just to name a few
― calstars, Monday, 30 September 2019 22:25 (six years ago)
BTW, looks like a lossless version based on a hypercomplete 'Esper' edition of recent years is here, though with selections of its own. Assuming the quality's any good -- I'm downloading it now -- this could be it:
http://download-soundtracks.com/movie_soundtracks/blade-runner-soundtrack-complete-by-vangelis/
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 October 2019 05:13 (six years ago)
thanks ned
― calstars, Saturday, 5 October 2019 13:48 (six years ago)
Thanks, Ned! Lots of cues I've never heard compiled til now.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 6 October 2019 08:08 (six years ago)
My gosh, Ned, that version is even more "complete" than the thirty-something track version on the 'Esper Edition' bootleg from a few years back. Thanks!
― Soundslike, Sunday, 6 October 2019 22:25 (six years ago)
Yeah, it's remarkable. At this point I'm assuming we'll never quite get it better than this.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 October 2019 04:45 (six years ago)
so…the 2007 25th anniversary set is flawed? I have the 1994 set via Picture disk, but there's so much else I recall that's not on there, and I think the 1994 set is what's on the streamers? Somebody tell me if I should or shouldn't get the 2007 version… I have the scarface release from a few years ago, it has everything —including not only foreboding Moroder stuff, but the dance pop/Debbie Harry/"She's on Fire"/Latin shit— and that approach is what I would want from Blade Runner.
― veronica moser, Monday, 25 March 2024 19:13 (one year ago)
Well, I'm glad I have that 2007 set -- I view a lot of the bonus/'new' stuff on the third disc as just interesting elaborations/interpretations, why not -- but if the link I posted back in 2019 above still works, I'd snag that for sure.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 19:30 (one year ago)
well, define "flawed"
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 25 March 2024 19:36 (one year ago)
it's good
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 25 March 2024 19:45 (one year ago)
flawed in the sense that the 2007 set doesn't include every recording vangelis made for the film, when it would seem that a release that does include every recording vangelis made for the film, since his score is universally regarded as among the best film scores ever made, would be warranted…
― veronica moser, Monday, 25 March 2024 19:56 (one year ago)
wouldn’t that be an audio release and not a blu-ray? I get that bundling the score/soundtrack would be nice but that’s an outlier on video releases
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:02 (one year ago)
OK yeah, in that sense (being incomplete) it is flawed. what you want is called the esper MR3 edition of the soundtrack, which is a two-CD bootleg available online that is as complete a collection of what was actually recorded for the movie as exists. that is also included as the first two discs of the esper retirement edition... do not pay money for these, they're not too difficult to find online.
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:33 (one year ago)
Right, and I'll share this again! It's the link I just mentioned!
https://download-soundtracks.com/movie_soundtracks/blade-runner-soundtrack-complete-by-vangelis/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 20:38 (one year ago)
(that said, I always end up returning to the 1994 CD version because it's what I grew up listening to and unlike the purists, I love the integration of dialog and SFX from the movie into the soundtrack and don't care that some of the stuff on the CD isn't from the movie at all... fans of Popol Vuh soundtracks laugh at the idea this is even to be expected)
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:42 (one year ago)
Yeah I like that they kept that as the first disc on the 2007 set. It's a nice reimagining, and was definitely better than the original weird version.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 20:48 (one year ago)
I think I have about six reimaginings of the soundtrack that I downloaded eons ago. It was a thing people did in the early 00s
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:49 (one year ago)
Literally found out only a few weeks ago, thanks to this video, that there are some lingering shots of the photos on the piano which are missing from every other cut except the '82 theatrical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK8gSbIaNhM
― piscesx, Monday, 25 March 2024 21:03 (one year ago)
I was delighted to find about about the 'deckard is gaff' theory last week: https://steemit.com/cinema/@starlight8888/blade-runner-deckard-is-gaff
― gene besserit (ledge), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 09:22 (one year ago)
I like it.
The part of fandom that comes up with little plot speculations you can tease out that are neither true nor false in the presented fiction is so much more fun than the people arguing that something is specifically true or false when the art left it intentionally vague
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:12 (one year ago)
Ha! I'm imagining Edward James Olmos reading it and nodding his head then pointing at his ipad going "this guy gets it!"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:39 (one year ago)
that's a fantastic theory, i love it
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:03 (one year ago)
Wonder if that plot strand made its way through by stealth from an earlier draft of the script?
― two-one-one-two (Matt #2), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:11 (one year ago)
edward james olmos put an astounding amount of work into developing the character of gaff on his own - he even devised the polyglot 'cityspeak' that gaff uses himself! - so i think a lot of the stuff like gaff's limp came directly from him rather than being a planned script element
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:19 (one year ago)
reminding me I never finished Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner Revised & Updated Edition
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:22 (one year ago)
that book was a bible to me as a teen
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:24 (one year ago)
holy moly @ Gaff theory
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:34 (one year ago)
I do like the idea of EJO himself planting the clues unbeknownst to Scott, Ford, Fancher as part of some ego-driven ethos that every role should be played as if it was the most important character in the movie.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:08 (one year ago)
I don't think 2049 has anything that would explicitly break the theory. Other than Gaff using newspeak and Deckard speaking in standard English. Almost adds an additional wink in that they go to Gaff on their journey to find Deckard.
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:41 (one year ago)
https://i.imgur.com/5PtJ4ke.jpegThanks for the rec, this book looks great
― calstars, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 11:59 (one year ago)
It's very good. That's the earlier edition IIRC; there's a later one with a blue color scheme for the cover and more info.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:13 (one year ago)
Revised & Updated Edition
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:40 (one year ago)