Can the father also be the king?

What is Charlie Parker the father of?

James Brown - well the GODfather and the king, at least

Charlie Parker: bebop.

What was James Brown king of?

I question Elvis's royality in the case of rock'n'roll. But no doubt he was the kind of bread with melted butter.

Charlie Parker: bebop.

What was James Brown king of?

Was he?

Funk, ya fool!

James Brown may have been the godfather of funk, but was he the king of it? I think his heyday was almost over when funk really hit it.

If he isn't the king of it, who is? George Clinton? He's more the Cardinal de Richelieu of funk.

Mark King :)

He isn't even the potboy

nobody calls Brown the Godfather Of Funk

I know, but then who calls anyone the Father of anything?

brown is the funky president, come on people

And the Godfather of Soul. I know.

This thread could've sparked some more discussion.

what about louis armstrong

What was he the father of?

James Robert (Bob) Wills (March 6, 1905 – May 13, 1975) was an American Western swing musician, songwriter, and bandleader, considered by many music authorities one of the fathers of Western swing and called by his fans the "King of Western Swing."

Calt, Stephen & Wardlow, Gayle (1988). King of the Delta Blues, The Life and Music of Charlie Patton.

Charlie Patton, better known as Charley Patton (May 1, 1891 - April 28, 1934) is best known as an American Delta blues musician. He is considered by many to be the "Father of Delta Blues" and therefore one of the oldest known figures of American popular music.

Surely some other Delta bluesmen were much more popular than Charlie Patton?

why don't you look it up in the billboard charts

charley patton, according to that book, was among the first blues artists to be well-known outside of the plantation he lived on and the community nearby. according to testimonials in the book, he was also wildly popular and could draw large crowds relative to other contemporary blues performers.

patton has also enjoyed wild acclaim since the proliferation of his recordings when they were first reissued in the nineteen sixties. among blues fans, he has since that time consistently been one of the most highly regarded delta blues musicians. if you're talking about how history perceives an artist vs. the popular opinion during the time he or she was performing.

tuomas is the king of willful naivity and also the father of the "is it okay for a baby to see you masturbating" meme.

he's the king of finland and the father of the baby that he jerked it in front of

i wonder if there is no use for figurative language in Finnish.

thread title sounds like the subtitle to an awesome movie

I thought the question was pretty straightforward: in what cases is the (perceived) originator of a style/genre also the most popular artist in that genre? I don't know why you have to get so upset about it.

i thought this was going to be about Mogwai

i thought this was going to be about jesus/god

kind of hard to pinpoint who originated a genre.

i'm by no means an expert on punk, but maybe the Ramones?

i think the first punk record was released by the fugs in 1965.

Aphex Twin and IDM?

aaahhhh... but is 60s garage punk the same genre as 70s punk rock?

xpost

who would you say were the kings of punk?

Aphex Twin and IDM?

if you specifically mean the 'drill n' bass' side of it then maybe

Maybe the mechanics of both creative process and pop market have something to do with it: new genres might take years to gestate, and when they reach the point they can be marketed to mass audiences, the originators may already sound old-fashioned and they may also appear too old for the youth market.

if this phenomenon does exist, which i kind of doubt for lack of pretty much any good examples, this could be a reason, although it might have to do with creative maturity and not necc. market forces

didn't aphex twin bite squarepusher w/r/t drill n bass? Or do I have that backwards?

who would you say were the kings of punk?

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http://www.crunkcds.com/images/lil_jon_kings_of_crunk.jpg

The King of Pop is apparently a father as well. At least he claims so.....

From memory, his child isn't called Pop.

Who is the Pop of Pop?

Obvious answer is Iggy but he looks too much like Melvyn Hayes for that to be credible.

http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/c/cash_johnny/11152006_videostills/01_iggy_pop.jpg

http://www.dibbie.com/images/memcon/melvyn.jpg

Thomas Tafirenyika Mapfumo (born 1945) is a Zimbabwean musician known as "The Lion of Zimbabwe" and "Mukanya" for his immense popularity and for the political influence he wields through his music. He both created and made popular Chimurenga music.