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What's really interesting about the You Follow Me is that anyone playing drums with this kind of force would drown out an acoustic guitar. It's like he's in the next room, but still bright and clear. A very original way to get an otherworldly quality out of such minimal instrumentation. It sounds natural and acoustic, but it's got a artifice that makes it uncanny.
― bendy, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)
It was discussed briefly here:
NINA NASTASIA
― StanM, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)
And yes, it's very very very good, I hope they make more music together.
― StanM, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)
i'm so fucking excited for this.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 23 August 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)
i don't like the record too much but a friend of mine described it as " the antidote to twittering mystical folk" so, for that reason alone, it's essential.
― jed_, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)
He played on the last three albums.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)
I've been meaning to check out one of these Nina Nastasia records for years now. Maybe this is the one.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)
Sorry, I mean the last two. He's not on Blackened Air.
Ken, I'd go for Run to Ruin - that's my favorite. I didn't care for the last one.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)
Would I like this?
― Jordan, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)
this is the one:
http://www.southern.com/southern/band/NASTA/pics/TG241M.jpg
xpost to hurting.
― jed_, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)
Somehow this is reminding me of the ILX lunchroom thread before it got creped out.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)
"On Leaving" has some great song on it (probably her best song in "Bird of Cuzco") but it doesn't have the unified feel of a good album, just a collection of songs put together.
― jed_, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)
You might, Jordan. It's definitely not groove-oriented - Jim White is more of a painterly, expressive drummer.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)
That's the impression I got from the youtube clip that was posted on IMM, but I actually wished he was MORE free and Elvin-like on that song.
― Jordan, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)
his style took me a while to get used to
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)
Actually I wish he sounded more like Jim Black, lol
― Jordan, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)
Jim & Jack Black vs. Jim & Jack White
― Jordan, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)
Ha, I tried something similar recently
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)
i liked on leaving a lot. i like this one pretty well too. i don't actually dislike any of her records. she's good.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)
brad haunts a party is a jam of the ages!
the blackened air is great too! on leaving is great! she's great overall!
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)
Road to Ruin seemed to build up expectations with some folks that she was moving towards a more orchestrated, nearly gothic approach, but she's retreated from that. After the initial realization of this, "On Leaving" really dug into me, particularly the skeletal piano work. This is even more skeletal, and the equal billing with White really made me listen to their interplay. All of her records have a few songs that pass by me without an impression. But I'm not sure I could take a whole album of her operating at the intensity of "Superstar" or "Brad Haunts a Party."
― bendy, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)
My understanding is that the seeming regression is due to the fact that On Leaving is all early songs.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)
http://fat-cat.co.uk/fatcat/images/news/444.jpg http://www.utdallas.edu/~awa021000/music/images/tbb-surf
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)
not that close, I guess, but a cover connection
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)
i like the rattly, sort of tossed-together feel of the drums. almost like he's hearing the songs for the first time and improvising around them. or sometimes like she's building songs around his drum tracks. my favorites on this so far are "the day i would bury you," "in the evening" and "late night." and the last track, too. actually most of them are good.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)
on leaving was lousy. i had avoided this new one because i saw her at ATP with Jim White and it was really lackluster. i liked run to ruin less than blackened air, and on leaving less than run to ruin, so assumed this was all just a downward slide. i was a v v big fan of the stormy, slightly spooky "gothic" orchestral stuff referred to above.
but yeah, You Follow Me is wonderful. I posted a song here, and as I say there, Jim White might be my favourite living musician. (this despite the fact i'm not a big fan of the Dirty 3.) he so enormously elevates the work of the folkies he works with. (smog, cat power, nina.) i love the conversation of his drumming, how lyrical it is. i like the "painterly" word someone used above. it's such a wide, flush palette. he pushes and strains and then pulls back from the main melodic line. amazing. they're v "busy" and attention-pulling drums, compared to so much folk stuff, but they're also so much more thoughtful, poignant and human than the corsano-influenced psychfolk stuff.
but anyway, yeah, this album's beautiful and i've downloaded it but i'm definitely going to buy it. full of nuts that'll take years to really crack, and in a good way.
― sean gramophone, Friday, 24 August 2007 04:39 (eighteen years ago)
-- Hurting 2, Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
Indeed, but this feels like he had more to contribute, hence the fact his name is up there - I think
― StanM, Friday, 24 August 2007 06:17 (eighteen years ago)
there are several tracks spread over her 5 or so peel sessions that haven't yet made it to record, short, sweet, clever things. including one session with tuvan throat singers.
were available here, some of them http://www.knkmusic.net/2006/07/nina-nastasia-peel-sessions-2002-2003.html
― koogs, Friday, 24 August 2007 09:44 (eighteen years ago)
and here: http://www.knkmusic.net/2006/07/nina-nastasia-pt-ii.html#links
― koogs, Friday, 24 August 2007 09:46 (eighteen years ago)
I'm liking this. The drums in Odd Said the Doe are great.
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 25 August 2007 00:55 (eighteen years ago)
ok, all the drums are great
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 25 August 2007 01:02 (eighteen years ago)
Jim White is perhaps my favorite living drummer, and certainly the only drummer in my collection that has inspired me to grab my friends and say "you gotta listen to the DRUMS on this!"
― sleeve, Saturday, 25 August 2007 03:01 (eighteen years ago)
on leaving was a total grower for me. i felt the same way a lot of people did at first but now the songs have sunk their teeth into me a bit...i don't know it's odd, very special to me. she is special in general.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 26 August 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)
truth. if you haven't seen here live you should do so, especially if jim white is on the tour and extra-especially if she ever does that thing with Hun Huur Tu (sp?) again.
― jed_, Sunday, 26 August 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)
this record has some of the nicest Jim White Moments i've ever heard.
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)
OK, it's from another album of hers (On Leaving), but:
1. http://www.volvocars.nl/campaigns/MY08/AllNewV70/OpenDoors/default.htm 2. click "galerie" 3. click the first picture ("TV Spot")
:-/
― StanM, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)
Good for her, obviously, but still, I liked that song :-/
― StanM, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)
i hope she makes a packet from it.
― jed_, Thursday, 13 September 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)
saw nina & jim last night.
honestly one of THE best concerts i've seen in recent memory, maybe ever.
jim white is such an amazing drummer, approaches the kit as such a musical instrument, very jazz approach to drums in a rock context
nina was wonderful, absolutely perfect voice live and really a great guitar player....
it's pretty humbling how much they can do with such minimal elements and still have you riveted the whole time....i can't think of another artist current working today that can really do what she does...
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 October 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)
Saw them in Chicago on Sunday night. Seeing Jim White play live was quite an experience.
― Eazy, Sunday, 7 October 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)
er, Friday night
they're playing in Portland tomorrow but it's two hours away and I probably won't go :(
― sleeve, Sunday, 7 October 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)
Been listening to this a lot lately.
― I know, right?, Sunday, 7 October 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)
this is absolutely fucking lovely. kind of harrowing in places, almost claustrophobically intense. they are both phenomenal musicians.
― Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 03:16 (eighteen years ago)
It is good. I still like Run to Ruin the best because it's so well stylized, whereas this feels almost too *authentic* or something.
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 03:38 (eighteen years ago)
nice aussie tv appearance. kicking myself for not going to see them a few months back.
― tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 05:19 (eighteen years ago)
i don't get "authentic" at all from this album, fwiw. much more just a couple musicians playing back and forth at/with each other. i really like this record.
― tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 05:21 (eighteen years ago)
I guess I just mean I liked the over-dramatic gothicness of Run to Ruin with all the weepy strings and whatnot. By "authentic" I basically meant what you're saying - stripped down, relying mainly just on the interplay between the two musicians. Which is not inherently a bad thing. I didn't mean it was cartoony Americana or anything. And I like the record.
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 05:47 (eighteen years ago)
oh yeah. well "road to ruin" is its own thing. sort of a weird self-contained object. i guess some people thought on leaving (which i like a lot) was kind of a retreat, but in the arc of her career so far it seems more like she has a sort of base that she alights from in different directions.
i don't know. i don't feel like i've figured her out. i really like her voice, and her melodic sense, and there's some mysteries there that make me feel a little like i'm not quite getting what's going on.
― tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 06:01 (eighteen years ago)
Our Discussion is a million times better than the version she did with Boom Bip, and that was the highlight of that record, and I liked that record.
I like this record.
― I know, right?, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)
i'm streaming this for the first time, here, it sounds really good; jim white's new trad-cretan record as half of Xylouris White
― schlump, Sunday, 19 October 2014 17:04 (eleven years ago)
also wow just jim white what a beautiful guy / please cast this guy in #truedetectives2
http://bombmagazine.org/system/rich/rich_files/rich_files/001/176/670/original/xw-20by-20jem-20cohen.jpg
Good list of favorite albums from Jim White (from Alice Coltrane to Mary Margaret O'Hara):
https://thequietus.com/interviews/bakers-dozen/jim-white-dirty-three-xylouris-white-bakers-dozen-favourite-albums/
― bratwurst autumn (Eazy), Thursday, 2 January 2025 01:54 (one year ago)