Bernie Taupin: classic or dud?

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I never understood why Elton John didn't write his own words. To me, his best songs have always been pretty meaningless. Much as I love something like 'Tiny Dancer', I wouldn't ever have said it contains a universal. So why didn't he just write nonsense for himself, and keep all the royalties?

Then yesterday I heard Jeff Buckley doing 'We all fall in love sometimes'. I hadn't heard of it before and thought it was a lost Jeff original, and it blew me away. It's a fantastic piece of songwriting. It's all about the accumulation of little details (the aching legs, the crackle on the speakers), and the descending melodies fit the exhausted mood perfectly. I guess both songwriters can take some credit, but as it took Jeff's sparse performance to do it justice. Who'd have thought it? Elton John holds Bernie Taupin back, rather than the other way round.

So I say: classic.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 31 August 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

Classic. Absolutely classic.

pisces, Friday, 31 August 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

He's got some good lyrics here and there ("I Feel Like a Bullet...," "Empty Garden," "I Guess That's Why They Call It..."), but, yeah, he's perfected a Hollywoodized kind of gibberish.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 31 August 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

I always mix up him and Bennie Maupin

Hurting 2, Friday, 31 August 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

Cluelessly misogynist to the extreme sometimes ("Dirty Little Girl", "All the Young Girls Love Alice", etc), very hit and miss, but capable of the more than occasional stunner.

Davey D, Friday, 31 August 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

He's more clueless than misogynist; he doesn't concentrate hard enough to make most sets of his lyrics even semantically logical.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 31 August 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

still classic tho

Bob Standard, Friday, 31 August 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

If you choose to you can live your life alone
Some people choose the city
Some others choose the good old family home
I like livin' easy without family ties
'Til the whippoorwill of freedom zapped me
Right between the eyes

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Saturday, 1 September 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, the thing is, what I really mean . . .

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Saturday, 1 September 2007 00:10 (eighteen years ago)

fifteen years pass...

I came in here ready to talk about The Jewel in the Lotus.

zacata, Monday, 27 March 2023 13:51 (two years ago)

seven months pass...

For the speech last night, pretty fucking great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irR737kY6JA

Still can't get over, in the best way possible, the fact he named Ray Bradbury, Ursula K. Le Guin and Mervyn Peake among his influences -- the latter in particular is a name I NEVER would have guessed being invoked at the RRHOF.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 4 November 2023 17:21 (two years ago)

two months pass...

This is really terrible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Who_Rides_the_Tiger

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 11 January 2024 13:54 (two years ago)

"The Whores of Paris" (6:22)

Yeeeeaahh, think I'll give this one a miss.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 January 2024 13:59 (two years ago)

Personally I don't much like either one of them (by which I mean Bernie's goofball cartoon-balloons lyrics, OR Elton's cornball arpeggiated music).

But it is clear that they cannot and will not function separately. To the extent that they have a winning, hit-making formula, with at least some indelible songs, it is due to their partnership.

I think it has been said on ILM previously that Elton can't make his terrible songs without Bernie's terrible lyrics, or vice versa. But the fact remains that there have also been some flashes of magic. It is one of the mysteries of Western civilization.

My beloved wife is a fan, but I have little use for these guys, personally. They have achieved an enormous and lasting cultural footprint, and that is an achievement.

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 January 2024 14:12 (two years ago)

You're mad, puffin.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 January 2024 14:20 (two years ago)

'Stevie Wonder drove his car perfectly': Bernie Taupin reveals startling story about blind superstar

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:39 (two years ago)

"The Whores of Paris", as a lyric, seems more sympathetic than salacious (though I'm not going to listen to it either):

Gigi liked the book on Jackie O
Though I knew she had some trouble with the words
It never showed

She'd never drop her guard
Under pressure she preferred like all her girls
Who worked the bars
To be a lady in the finest sense
Not your traditional elegance

Of Paris Match and chic expense
But the tough and tardy waiting game
With fat commuters full of cheap champagne

Belching tourists feel no pain
When Gigi takes their wallets
Spends their bodies, keeps the change

For sentiment don't touch the Whores of Paris
Just the years and lines of age
That buries them in unmarked graves
Old and spent and never saved

By epitaphs and red bouquets
When winter wakes the devil takes
The Whores of Paris home to Hades

They use their caution like a whip
We sensed it as they filed their nails, crimson
As the paint upon their lips
Tough enough to rust in jail

Farmers' daughters plucked like corn
From the Camargue to Marseilles
Ideals of the ideal life
Expectant mothers discarded wives
With re-sewn wrists and tear stained eyes

They soon find the shoe fits easy
The francs flow in and the tricks say, 'Please me'
Another lovely thigh says, 'Squeeze me'
Mon cherie, my bed's so busy
Take a Pernod, life's so sleazy

It's not coffee in the air
Just the smell of foreign fingers greasing palms
On the Seine it's Sunday morning
To her, it's always evening

Shifting gear to put some German in her arms
Washed in sterile porcelain
She fakes it for the good of his morale
He's tired and worn but she moves on
To rope another stud from her corral

Christmas in the poor house
Unbeknownst to others, Madelaina takes her life
She tipped the scales at forty five
Never saw a decent day
Never made it to the upper echelons of night

In decadence I once reclined
Looked them over once or twice but never really
Crossed my mind, preferring to remain their friend
I never shared the pleasures of the mystery that lay beneath
Anyone of them

They just seemed starved of conversation
Respected us for being patient
Demanded news of other nations far away
And I'm still glad I gained their faith

For every girl there bore more taste
Than the flotsam strung on the Bel Air wastes
They poised themselves with perfect grace
Their hearts were chipped but not misplaced

There's more empathy than in "Sweet Painted Lady".

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:43 (two years ago)

Tempted to listen to it to see if an accordion is featured anywhere in the arrangement.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:54 (two years ago)

Tommy Funderburk - backing vocals

Exsqueeze me?

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:55 (two years ago)

Lord Alfred: De gustibus non dispuTaupin est.

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 January 2024 15:08 (two years ago)

"It's not coffee in the air
Just the smell of foreign fingers greasing palms"

so true

| (Latham Green), Monday, 22 January 2024 14:22 (two years ago)


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