FIVE MICS POLL

PE baby - PE

The Blueprint

The Naked Truth by Lil Kim

RIP Alex MacPherson, hope you up in heaven letting St Peter know why it's OK to call black people "niggers"

say what you will about that album the joint with twista & bun is worth 5 mics even if every other track was court tv audio of kim's plea bargain

Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with.

People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm by A Tribe Called Quest

this is the worst album on the list

PE baby - PE

-- BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:13 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Of course.

nation of millions is a classic album but does anybody actually listen to that now????

um, hi dere?

People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm by A Tribe Called Quest

Me Against the World by 2Pac

this is the worst album on the list

Worse than Stillmatic?

Stillmatic = A-

Stillmatic's album title = D+

People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm by A Tribe Called Quest

this is the worst album on the list

-- and what, Wednesday, September 5, 2007 3:26 PM (6 minutes ago)

i'd listen to that before Fugees

Eh, I loved Stillmatic when it came out, but many of the songs, particularly in the second half, sound pretty limp today, although the track with AZ is spectacular.

Me Against the World has some of 2Pac's best songs: the title track, "Dear Mama," "So Many Tears," "Fuck the World." 2Pac at his most vulnerable in many instances, and stellar production throughout.

hard but i voted DOC cuz i've been listening to it alot lately.

wtf

me against the world is my favorite pac album

go listen to lifesavas, fag

i think i voted ready to die.

I LEFT MY WALLET IN EL SEGUNDO
I LEFT MY WALLET IN EL SEGUNDO
I LEFT MY WALLET IN EL SEGUNDO
GOT TO GET IT I GOT GOT TO GET IT

PE beats Biggie and the Wu. would take the Score over at best all but a dozen of these.

The Naked Truth! WTF?

i voted the diary

me against the world isn't even close to the worst album on that list

i like the score more than the tribe record too

the 1st tribe record i mean

Are these really the only 5 mic records?

I'm gonna vote for Breaking Atoms just so it gets a vote.

the score is way better than the first tribe no contest.

THE WALLET HAD CONDOMS IN, SO IF HE DIDN'T GET IT BACK HE WOULD HAVE DIED OF AIDS

> go listen to lifesavas

GREAT IDEA!

AS for my vote? You been BLINDED...

MANFRED MANN??

Death Certificate over Enter the Wu-Tang, Ready to Die, PE and Life After Death.

go listen to lifesavas, fag

-- and what, Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

Lifesavas get like three mics from me.

First album gets three and a half.

Also, I'm not saying Me Against The World is a bad album, I would just reach for it last on that list. Pretty much every album on that list is fairly excellent.

NO 7 DAY-THEORY NO CREDIBILITY

How can I put this so nobody gets pissed off? It was rude so don't acknowledge it. How's that?

Death Certificate

Fugees are horrible, easily the worst thing on the list.

I had no idea Straight Out the Jungle got 5 mics

Retroactive 5-mic. Source wasn't around in 1988.

Fugees are horrible, easily the worst thing on the list.

you are from California

Hating Fugees is the 2007 version of hating Arrested Development

mods - please remove references to Arrested Development

Hating Fugees is the 2007 version of hating Arrested Development

if you mean did I hate them when they came out and still think their music is crap whenever I hear it then yes

cuban linx

http://www.rtvslo.si/kultura/upload/Kultura/glasba/fugees_show.jpg

fugees were way more awesome than arrested development i don't even get why people always make that comparison.

because they appeal to people who normally wouldn't like rap at all for pretty much the same reasons (they're "socially conscious", inoffensive, use clumsily obvious samples and comfortable bourgie reference points, etc.)

also because they're both bad

I think this is one of those polls where the boring choice is probably the right one. except I'm not even 100% sure what the boring choice here would be (Illmatic? 36 Chambers? Straight Outta Compton?)

also, how is no one repping Aquemini yet? I thought ILM had a total hard-on for that album

Long Live the Kane by Big Daddy Kane 1

who is this bro

kinda shocked blueprint tied w/illmatic

Once again, my vote didn't get counted. I'm ready to say 'fuck a poll.'

I'm so ronery.

one unpredictable thing: reasonable doubt gets NO votes.

the blueprint, which i do like, finishing that high is wack wack wack, it's above a dozen or more superior records.

including reasonable doubt!

also i don't really get why death certificate is the "classic" album instead of Kill at Will or AmeriKKKA by Cube....

no votes for great adventures, now i kinda wish i woulda voted for that.

I didn't hear Jay-z full-lengths until two or three years ago, but I'm surprised more people didn't realize Blueprint was the worst album he'd released at that point.

also i don't really get why death certificate is the "classic" album instead of Kill at Will or AmeriKKKA by Cube....

probably cuz its a "concept" album - I like records with unifying themes. Also I think the production in general is better than on AmeriKKa's Most Wanted, and um Kill at Will is just an EP.

I didn't hear Jay-z full-lengths until two or three years ago, but I'm surprised more people didn't realize Blueprint was the worst album he'd released at that point.

-- da croupier, Monday, September 10, 2007 12:12 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

its sound was extremely refreshing at the time, just several years of kanye/blaze SOULFUL RAP knockoffs have made it sounds like much more of a footnote than it did when it first dropped

...and i still like it more than reasonable doubt and vol. 1, although vol. 1 has a couple of his best tracks on it

i've always wondered if i could make a super awesome super tight 1 CD album mixtape out of gift and a curse...same thing w/use yr illusion by gnr.

super awesome super tight 1 CD album mixtape out of gift and a curse

didn't Jay-Z try and fail?

haha yeah he did. in fact I think there have been multiple ILM threads built on the premise of doing that w/ various double albums, I think I did a single disc BP2 myself.

In My Lifetime Vol. 1 is an amazing album with weak singles the same way Vol. 2 is a weak album with amazing singles.

did dah ranjaz (sp?) every put out an album?

i don't think vol. 2 is a weak album at all

and altho i defend bp2, i think blueprint's better than that and the black album as well

I just think RD-v.3 is as good a run of consecutive rap LPs as I can think of by a rapper so I'm shocked when Blueprint's treated as a go-to.

volume 3 is do_ob

d(o_o)b

Doob may refer to several things:

Joseph Leo Doob, an American mathematician
Doob martingale
Doob's martingale inequality
Doob-Meyer decomposition theorem
Doob Doob O'Rama, the name of two Bollywood soundtrack compilations
The Doobie Brothers band
A doobie

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otm

maybe you can do a blend of "Snoopy Track" and that beat you sent me last week that sounded like "Long Train Runnin'."

I shoulda voted Critical Beatdown

The Fix by Scarface 0

>:0

I pulled out BP2 a couple weeks back, and there's a disconcerting amount of overblown EWF bullsh mixed in with the good tracks. "U Don't Know" remix knocks EVERYTHING the fuck down, though.

hah but i like the EWFish tracks

"As One" is great
is it sparks that tries to make the noise of a money counter w/ his mouth

I dunno, something about EWF REALLY fucking bugs me, and I've never been able to put my finger one it, but I really have no desire to, either.

"Fuck All Nite" = more sex jams need to sound like porn funk.

I dunno, something about EWF REALLY fucking bugs me, and I've never been able to put my finger one it, but I really have no desire to, either.

-- The Reverend, Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:51 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

for real????

Yeah, a couple songs aside, I can't stand them at all.

I think it's dude's (not fam. enough w/ personal) falsetto that grates.

Now here's another "R&B" act that I really like. Lots of great songs. And not only a great singles band, in the 70s they tackled albums well too.

-- Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:10 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

geir otm

I think that says everything. They are James Brown for Geir.

(I'm probably going to get picked apart for that statement, but meh.)

hard knock life > blueprint

kinda shocked blueprint tied w/illmatic

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, September 9, 2007 7:27 PM

Uh, YEAH! There are at least ten albums on that list that put that album in the dust.

Life After Death and Chronic 2001 are definitely not flawless albums. I'll give you Ready to Die, but L.A.D. is as bloated as the man himself

nah

The first half of 2001 is so good that the second half could be made up of the Cold as Ice soundtrack, and it would still deserve to be on this list.

Rev if U don't like "Serpentine Fire" then we arent secretly related after all

"Serpentine Fire" (which I'd never heard before) is alright. I think it's the combination of schmaltz and pomp that puts me off of them, neither of which that song falls prey to. I can deal with one or the other, but not both.

where do u stand on 'lets groove'

HATE! HATE! HATE!

fwiw, "Shining Star" is the one song I've heard by them that I like quite a bit.

ok ban rev

shining star is like ... "man i really like that 'build me up buttercup' song!"

To tell the truth, I like "Build Me Up Buttercup". (Is that odd? I don't really know if it's well-liked or not.)

Now that I think of it, Rickey posted a later EWF song that wasn't so bad a few days ago.

I don't see the connection between "Shining Star" & "Build Me Up Buttercup", though.

its one of those songs that has been hammered into my subconscious since i was old enough to see movie trailers