Oh No, Pass the Lord and Praise the Ammunition--It’s Time for the 2007 P&J / Jackin’ Pop Prognostication Thread!

This year I will not miss the Jackin' Pop deadline.

This year no-one will care.

It's September.

http://www.carriesbearhugs.com/calendar-images-dell/baby-calendar-september.jpg

I think I started a 2003 P&J prediction thread in May.

And looking at the upcoming release calendar, I can't see the winner being something that hasn't come out yet. Radiohead was delayed until 2008. I just listened to the new PJ Harvey this morning, and while I like it, I can't imagine that critics are going to fall over it the way they did for Stories from the City or To Bring You My Love (maybe I'll be surprised).

daft punk alive 2007

You're gonna take a walk in the rain
And you're gonna get wet

You're gonna eat a bowl of chow mein
And be hungry real soon

I PREDICT

the Arcade Fire? Seriously? That album is terrible.

Best things I've heard this year: LCD Soundsystem, Ghost, Spoon, Interpol, Wooden Shjips (sure why not), Brightblack Morning Light, Ghostface

brightblack came out last year didnt it

entirely possible, I don't keep track of release dates

Not that it means a WHOLE lot, but Arcade Fire is #2 on Metacritic right now, and I can see a lot of critics who missed the boat in 2004 voting for it, even if it's not as good as the first one. Plus, I seem to recall a few critics who caught the boat in 2004 but genuinely like this one better. They seem more "important" now and not just a cute indie-rock success story.

I think the real winners will be the fans

i think someone should start a thread predicting the winner of the poll of the list of winners

This year has been absolutely fucking awful.

really has.

i LOVE neon bible. don't think it'll win. i think this year has been bril. - great records by quite a few faves, and up and comers also represent (hi, against me!)
but i honestly can't stop playing magic right about now. boss and co. are godlike on this.

both college dropout and late reg. won p&j the years they were released...

predictions:

graduation wins. mia takes a staggering drop. neon bible is in the top 10. spoon is in the top 20.

spoon will be top 5.

this year's hold steady.

I was thinking about Spoon earlier. I'm not ready to say top 5, but it will be their strongest showing. ("Kill the Moonlight" and "Gimme Fiction" both placed #14.)

like there's any chance it's not gonna be KALA

daft punk alive 2007

if anybody has any sense, then yeah, this.

this thread makes me glad i don't live in normal-land. daft punk and spoon? egads.

*disclaimer* - have not heard one album named on this thread.

*clarification* - have no desire too.

*correction* heard the ghost album. not best ghost album.

cuz in crazy-land it was like the best fuckin' year ever!

whatre yr top few so far skot

didn't you once vote for northern state, dude?

i liked that northern state EP! i stand by that. haven't listened to it since it came out probably, but i did like it. it was funny.

i'll come back with a list. i have to make a top 20 list for decibel. i'm trying to think of non-decibel-ish things that i liked. the only indie rock cd i really liked was by the band *Prints* on temporary residence. i played that a bunch. i liked it in the same way that i liked that grizzly bear album from last year. i just get more and more divorced from mainstream/pop/indie stuff with every passing year. in ten years it will be nothing but string quartets and ancient jug bands for me. the death of a hipster.

It's been a great year for singles! And I hope "Umbrella" takes it (though there are lots of other great frontrunners).

Sadly, "Stronger" will probably make the list.

Albums? I like The National and White Rabbits. Neither will win (though the National will be top 15, yes?). I'll be sad if Kanye wins (that album only has three or four great songs!)

And I'll be happy if Kala takes first. I wonder how Panda Bear and Animal Collective will do.

But it will be interesting if Kanye takes the top spot (at least as far as P&J is concerned), since that would make him the only artist to ever win with three releases in a row (and that everyone of his 3 albums will have won the P&J albums poll). What are the odds of that ever happening again?

Maybe the better question would be, "Will a Kanye album release ever not win the P&J poll?"

Strike that. Forgot that Dylan won with three consecutive studio album releases.

It's been a great year for singles!

Mmmf. What I've heard here and there makes me think of a very ugly early 1987 (which is right around when I abandoned top 40 as regular listening) -- there's some good stuff, sure, always is, but it's stuck amid a whole lotta congealed sludge.

Isn't it ever thus?

Not being snarky, btw: with exceptions we've always had to troll around for good stuff.

Don't be surprised to find Hissing Fauna finishing in the top five.

If "Someone Great" gets pushed a bit, could improve LCD's chances of winning (though as music as I love the song, probably my favorite of the year, the video edit annoys me enough that I don't want to encourage it).

except that I'll prolly vote for both as my #1s, so I guess will be encouraging that plenty.

Rotting Christ's Theogonia in shocker upset

Have any metal albums ever done well in P&J? I don't recall (m)any in the polls on here. But they're only at 1995 or so.

Did Mastodon do well for instance? Or will Baroness be this years surprise package after a rave review on Pitchfork?

mastodon did pretty well i think.

Hurrah!
Maybe one day a metal band will win it then. Especially since metal is supposedly "hip" now.
New High On Fire better do well. That' a great album. Infact it's been a few good years for metal (for me anyway).

Kanye's the only album I have/like that will place highly, but I don't think it's nearly as good as his other albums so I kinda hope he doesn't threepeat. I can't think of any other rap album that will place highly, unless Wayne drops in early December or the Jay-Z is better than horrible. Nothing being rallied around this year the same way as Ghostface/Clipse last year. Maybe UGK? Wu Tang? Common?

Singles I don't even wanna think about it, as it will probably be Umbrella/Stronger and other bullshit. I'll probably opt out of voting again just to not feel responsible at all for the result.

new year's 07 i made a resolution to "keep up" and all that... now it's september and i'm totally out of it. no idea what came out this year! my favorite thing was probably the youtube of the showbiz pizza animatronic band reprogrammed to do "miss new booty."

not that anyone is hanging on my every word.

but srsly check out that youtube, it's better than the spoon album

Top 5

Kanye
MIA
LCD Soundsystem
Arcade Fire
?

If "Kala" wins, it seems like it will be the worst P&J album winner ever

Not even close.

Seems like "Person Pitch" was much more popular with crit types than "Strawberry Jam", although I agree that the latter won't score too high. I've seen Panda Bear in a good percentage of the top tens I've seen.

If "Kala" wins, it seems like it will be the worst P&J album winner ever

Not hardly. haha xp

I'm most interested to see if more critics go Panda Bear or Amy Winehouse. Glossies versus da HTMLs!

fwiw, I'm in da HTMLs and love Winehouse and think Panda Bear is the most awful thing I've heard this year, even worse than Sean Kingston.

"Not even close" OTM. (In the last 20 years, Kala would be way better than the average winner.)

Winehouse (who will carry over votes from last year, probably, though I'm not sure how many she got then) could easily place higher than LCD.

I suppose the Idolator poll comes out today or Monday? It came out on the 5th, a Friday, last year.

I don't think Winehouse got much last year, although Lily Allen might be one to watch out for. I'm not sure she'll get much support this year, though.

There's also the possibility of a Soulja Boy upset.

Speaking of which, what do you guys think is gonna win the singles poll? This is the first year in a while I don't think it's damn obvious. I'm not convinced it's "All My Friends" ftw.

Rev- the HTMLs jive with Winehouse the way they jived with Gnarls Barkley but it's the glossies and Grammys going to the mat for her. What's wrong with "Beautiful Girls"??

I'm w/Barry B. re Panda Bear. Seems like it has a good shot at the mid-20s.

Speaking of which, what do you guys think is gonna win the singles poll?

I think it's "Umbrella."

Hmm.

What's wrong with "Beautiful Girls"??

Everything.

As far as singles, "Umbrella" or "Rehab" for P&J; "Umbrella" or "All My Friends" for Idolator.

I think you're right.

Rev- the HTMLs jive with Winehouse the way they jived with Gnarls Barkley but it's the glossies and Grammys going to the mat for her.

I know, I never said I was typical. I wasn't particularly big on Gnarls, though.

Yeah, that seems reasonable.

xxp

"Beautiful Girls" and "Rehab" are essentially mirror images of each other (in terms of production aesthetic and vocal quality).

every time i hear that feist song i want to say, "1 2 3 4, i declare a thumb war."

Weird Al Yankovic should run with that idea, especially for the video parody potential.

If "Kala" wins, it seems like it will be the worst P&J album winner ever

it would be my favorite or 2nd-favorite of the last 10 years, in contention with modern times.

Just MODO on the shittiness of the MIA record ... I have to look back to, I don't know, 1999 ("Play") to find a P&J winner that I'm indifferent about. I mean, I like "Play", but there's no way it should have been #1, whereas with everything since then I can at least say "OK, I understand why that was #1 even if I'm not a big fan of the record".

OTOH, the idea that MIA might win this year really irks me.

consider me yr irker. i voted it #1 w/20 points.

irk away irk away irk away, the tipsy way

I considered using stronger language than "irk" (which would be more representative of my true feelings) but this is a family-friendly thread.

Weird Al Yankovic should run with that idea, especially for the video parody potential.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Friday, January 4, 2008 3:18 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Instantly whomps at least "Couch Potato" and "Pretty Fly For a Rabbi."

amish paradise> the rest of weird al's career

actually scratch that i forgot about "combo # 5" which is also a stone cold classic

locks for the top 10 in both polls: mia, lcd, spoon, kanye west, radiohead

Here's what you guys are forgetting about Radiohead. They've never, ever won. Not for Kid A, not for OK Computer, and uh, I'm pretty sure In Rainbows isn't going to get the love those didn't just because they're a safe brand name. This ain't the Grammys ya know.

About the Grammys comment, I wish it were true, but I'm not so sure. Just look at the winners over the past 20+ years....as an example, how do you explain Talking Heads finally winning for "Little Creatures"? I think Radiohead could easily win the P&J poll. My guess is MIA, though, with Arcade Fire a close second. The results of the Idolator poll seem less easy to predict. It's possible LCD Soundsystem could win that one.

The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that "Neon Bible" will win P&J ... it'll draw the Dylan/Springsteen old-skool rock vote, plenty of indie fuxxor votes, and the "Grammy" vote (i.e. people who didn't get on the bandwagon soon enough to vote for "Funeral", and will make up for it now).

That's pretty much my line of reasoning.

Any word on the publication date for these things yet?

idolator should be sometime this coming week i imagine, p&j probably a week after

i would be stunned if AF won to be completely honest w/ you

Really? Why is that?

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop05/winners.php?type=album

oops, posted this on the wrong thread. although it doesn't seem to make much sense, someone should still fix this.

Yeah that's pretty ugly. And hilarious.

So, apparently it's Sound of Silver and "Umbrella" for P&J.

Next.

Also--for those keeping track of such things--LCD win with (1641 points) 140 votes, as apposed to Kanye's (2525 points) 227 way back in good ol' 2005. So much for increasing the electorate (much) this time out.

i dont think every ballot has been submitted on that thing. its still quite a shocking oversight.

Time will tell.

Also: Just noticed that Radiohead are ahead of LCD in votes (145), but behind in points (a mere 1580).

This is fun.

Top 5 albums thus far:

1 LCD Soundsystem Sound of Silver 1651(140)

2 M.I.A. Kala 1595(142)

3 radiohead In Rainbows 1580(145)

4 Amy Winehouse 1383(122)

5 Arcade Fire Neon Bible 1199(110)

Top 5 singles:

1 Rihanna Umbrella ?

2 Amy Winehouse Rehab 87

3 Feist 1234 57

4 LCD Soundsystem \"All My Friends\" 54

5 Justice D.A.N.C.E. 51

What happened?

www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop2006

er ^ the link takes you right to the front page

i'm assuming the results got uploaded early

the results got uploaded early to the 2005 website.

hahah--they're on to us.

(i.e., this link: http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop05/winners.php?type=album don't work no more.)

And starwipe.