Best Song on Genesis' "And Then There Were Three..."

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Why this one?

Genesis lose Hackett and start their sojourn away from prog moving towards the direction of pop. Here are 11 digestible, stand-alone songs, reasonably equivalent in length yet still showing a considerable degree of variability in mood and function.

For me, the 3 top candidates are "Down and Out", "Undertow" and "Burning Rope". "The Lady Lies" has its charms, though it leans a bit too heavily on the band's prog past. "Many Too Many", while I could see some finding too bland overall, has this great 'sunlight coming out of the cloudiness' in its chorus that warrants due consideration.

In the final assessment, I'm voting "Down and Out"--I've always loved that one, and it just kicks ass throughout...though my soul will now punish me for having forsaken the exquisite fragility of "Undertow", which in actuality probably deserves the win (this must be the musical equivalent of going with the cheerleader bad girl over the sensitive library chick :) ).

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Burning Rope 5
Undertow 2
Down and Out 1
Say It's Alright Joe 1
Many Too Many 1
Follow You Follow Me1
Snowbound 0
Scenes from a Night's Dream 0
Ballad of Big 0
The Lady Lies 0
Deep in the Motherlode 0


Joe, Friday, 21 September 2007 03:09 (eighteen years ago)

This is "Burning Rope", which is their most 1976-sounding song. Although the more pop oriented material is not at all bad either (and way better than anything they would do later).

Geir Hongro, Friday, 21 September 2007 07:58 (eighteen years ago)

This album was a major letdown when compared to their earlier 70s output, but in retrospect it's better than anything they did later.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 21 September 2007 07:59 (eighteen years ago)

No, it's not as good as Duke. Off the top of my head I can only remember how about 3 of these sound. If Scenes from a Night's Dream is the "Poor Little Nemo" one then I like that a lot, but I'll probly have to vote for "Many Too Many".

Noodle Vague, Friday, 21 September 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

probably burning rope, but this album is so much worse than duke or abacab or anything that came before it (better than anything post-abacab though). some of these tracks are just embarrassing (scenes from a night's dream, lady lies)...eesh.

akm, Friday, 21 September 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

I may rank Duke ahead of it, but I feel like having prog influenced numbers like "Burning Rope" and "The Lady Lies" does still make this one better. Also because "Duke" had a bit too many of those typical R&B-ish Phil Collins songs on it.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 21 September 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

"Follow You Follow Me" was a portent of the MOR dreck to come...I considered this LP an enormous letdown after Trick Of The Tail...

henry s, Friday, 21 September 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

I considered this LP an enormous letdown after Trick Of The Tail...

"Wind And Wuthering" was in-between though.

And "Follow You Follow Me", it isn't their best by any means, but at least it doesn't sound like Earth Wind & Fire. I mean, nothing wrong about Earth Wind & Fire, but I prefer Genesis when they sound like Genesis.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 21 September 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

You know, "Snowbound" is quite charming as well.

Agree that Duke is the better album. It's strange how on this album I really like a lot of songs, but the overall effect is somehow uncharismatic-- like a garden with beautiful, sometimes dazzling, flowers in it, but when you step back and look at it it just doesn't pack a punch as a whole entity.

Joe, Friday, 21 September 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

"Turn It On Again" = Mad Justification of the 3-piece years. And I kind of think Geir agrees here.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 22 September 2007 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

Also G, isn't the point of "Follow You Follow Me", more than anything else on this album, that is sounds like post-funk KC and the Sunshine etc etc?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 22 September 2007 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway now I'm sober-ish I reckon that Duke is proggier than this one, what with its concept and all.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 22 September 2007 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

With "Duke", it's another problem for me. A problem that started already on "And Then There Were Three", but grew worse from "Duke" onwards:

I have never liked the Yamaha CP. I think it sounds like a cheap replica, it doesn't sound quite like an electric piano, but also not quite like a piano. Sort of neither fish nor flesh. Tony Banks loves his CP, and used it a lot from "Duke" onwards, which haunts me a lot because otherwise I love Tony Banks and consider him the actual artistic brain in Genesis. Possibly even more than Peter Gabriel used to be.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 22 September 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Friday, 28 September 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Saturday, 29 September 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

As I expected, few people knew this album well enough to vote. But at least most voters picked the correct track. :)

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 30 September 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

ten years pass...

I like follow yo ufollow and and teh rest is really kind of crap

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Friday, 20 July 2018 16:11 (seven years ago)

Nah. Weakest track on the album.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Friday, 20 July 2018 16:58 (seven years ago)

what is with that snow man song ? WAAAAAAAAGHGH THERES A SNOW MAAAAAAAAANNN

the whoel thing is coated in glossy production - so synthetic, so lethargic

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:26 (seven years ago)

Ya, Snowbound and Many Too Many are far more difficult listens than FYFM, which was thankfully spared a painfully melodramatic chorus

doug watson, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:02 (seven years ago)


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