Luke Vibert - Chicago, Detroit, Redruth

basically you can mark the moments when IDM dudes descend into irrelevance by noting when they return to the dance

mike paradinas -> praising ram trilogy's "molten beats" as "the best drum and bass album ever" -> "royal astronomy"

aphex -> "2 remixes by .." / "windowlicker" / bragging about his acid house collection in interviews -> druqks

squarepusher -> talking about garage / "my red hot car" -> started to suck

so i'm not totally enthused by vibert's "ace of clubs" direction

i'd like to see him flesh out the "spac hand luke" thing a bit more though

is dubstep the only dance genre that's been improved on by flirtations with IDM? maybe, if only because it was always IDM to begin with.

Doesn't Photek make house music now?

What I hear is not really in the same vain as Ace of Clubs. It’s kind of all over the place but sounds good nonetheless

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Didn't they all return to "dance" almost immediately (not that this disproves your point haha)?

basically you can mark the moments when IDM dudes descend into irrelevance by noting when they return to the dance

there is something here that keeps me thinking about it, partially because there is some truth to this but also because i don’t agree with the implication that IDM >> the dance

i’m certain there are IDM artists that did IDM because they couldn’t make a good dance track, so at some point some of them wanted to try it again

I love acid.

Now that I got that out of the way, I listened to the DJ Mink rmx at a rather loud volume today and yup still incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz11MqaPyJc

I think heavily compressed mid-range 303 is my ASMR.

but also because i don’t agree with the implication that IDM >> the dance

that wasn’t the implication, unless you mean that the implication was that idm dudes are better at idm than they are at dance music

“2 remixes by” and the acid remix of windowlicker are some of my favorite aphex tracks! and its complicated a bit because aphex had already made dancier stuff than the other guys (first polygon window album, for example)

my real point was just that it’s generally not a good look to abandon your original project, and that i sense a bit of creative exhaustion when artists suddenly switch course towards “the simple music of my youth”

(cf the rock group’s “basic to basics album”, or when the 20 year old hair grunge hair metal band cuts their hair, puts on dress shirts, and takes a b+w photo oozing maturity)

that wasn’t the implication, unless you mean that the implication was that idm dudes are better at idm than they are at dance music

i should've said - the implication seemed that it's easier to do dance music than IDM (which i don't agree with). i do think that some IDM dudes are better at IDM than they are at dance music!

i sense a bit of creative exhaustion when artists suddenly switch course towards “the simple music of my youth”

which seems to be true for most such cases, but i would argue there is a small subset of this where it actually works, perhaps when the main drive isn't to go back to roots but to stop worrying about whether it'll be a career advancing milestone and just make music you enjoy. i'd argue orbital "monsters" would fall under the former while "optical delusion" would be the latter. underworld is another band that is a good example of the latter (yes, neither is IDM but still)

the implication seemed that it's easier to do dance music than IDM (which i don't agree with)

that was also not the original implication!

i realize that’s not the main point of your post, unsure whether the actual point of your post is true or not.

sadly i tend to lose interest in idm acts pretty quickly. i barely followed autechre after gantz graf, checked out of aphex after druqks. and i’ve never stuck with anyone else longer (5-6 albums)