Godfather of course = "Our Song" = if Elton was a sculptor but then again no, also introduces the idea of a songwriting mistake as a sympathetic force in the song.
Then Rod Stewart - "Keep forgetting that you were once mine / Wrote that lyric without even trying" - always puts a catch in my throat and a grin on my face, that line.
Al Green - he started to write a song about you, then decided to write a song about love.
and Spandau Ballet - listening to Marvin all night long, then he finds it hard to write the next line (should have got some sleep)
Any more? And any songs which present songwriting as a straightforward, not mistake-laden trial-and-error process?
― Tom, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
"not long is how long that this rhyme took me"
― bc, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jordan, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ally, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mark, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ron, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I always go awww at Chris Knox's Not Given Lightly: "This is a love song to John & Licia's (sp?) mother. This isn't easy - I might not write another."
― briania, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
"I wrote this song two hours before we met" etc. I get the concept, but it doesn't seem to make any linear sense, it's kind of a circular logic thing, which I guess is what he was going for.
and my personal favorite: The Posies - Any Other Way
"I was crushed of course, but at least it's something I can write about"
also, once I saw some Robbie Williams concert on Mtv2 where he sings some semi-clever line and then adds an aside: "that's one of me better lyrics", which for some reason I just loved.
― al, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Douglas, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Brian MacDonald, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― clotion, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
"this part of the song is called the second verse sounds just like the first but with different words it only has three chords and they are A and E and D they are A and E and D then it goes to D minor, D, uh, A, E, D"
― http://gygax.pitas.com, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andy, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nate Patrin, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Rufus King, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Would the "Always - no, sometimes..." part of "Strawberry Fields" count?
― Simon, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― bnw, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
A couple more examples - Billy Bragg's "A New England" - "I was 21 years when I wrote this song" - like Pulp sets up a circular logic, or rather in this case not quite, because the implication is of a different pre-song song that BB wrote before the situation described in the song kicked in. It's a great line because of that hint of what- might-have-been sadness and also because it captures how quickly things move when you're 21/22.
And Syd Barrett on "Jugband Blues" - "I wonder who could be singing this song".
― Tom, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
And Tom, the "I was 21 years..." line was stolen from a Paul Simon song ("Kathy's song", I believe) and I remember reading an interview with a young Bragg where he said he wrote to Paul Simon to ask if he could quote the line with permission, which was nice of him.
― Rob M, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
It's about me, isn't it? ISN'T IT? ISN'T IT???
― Alexander Blair, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Meeder, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andrew L, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― nathalie, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dr. C, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
A rare moment. Mark the date.
The Sparks song is exactly what I'm thinking of - the emotional impact of the song is completely dependent on the fact that it's about the song ("emotional impact" here = "the conceit that you only hear this song when death is approaching" heh).
That, but it also seems an interesting commentary on the nature of hitmaking and popularity -- spreading out so that even the 'kids' are singing it and all.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
To me the emotional impact of the song is all about Giorgio Moroder's berserk, kitchen-sink elecro-disco production.
― Sean, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
That Pulp song does make sense to me. It's an expression of utter romanticism. It's a dream. It's like whispering 'I love you' into your pillow.
― N., Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Wyndham Earl, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― o. nate, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
the song that the Mountain Goats end every one of their shows with possesses a narrative self-consciousness in the lyrics...
any Mountain Goats fans/members know what I'm talking about?
― http://gygax.pitas.com, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Adam Ant's "Ant Music."
― nickn, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― The Manilow, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Bruce Johnston, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tim, Wednesday, 24 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Brian Wilson, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― http://gygax.pitas.com, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― nickn, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I was dreamin' when I wrote this Forgive me if it goes astray ...
I was dreamin' when I wrote this So sue me if I go 2 fast
Okay, maybe not too self-tooting, but look who we're quoting here...
― Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― PappaWheelie V, Monday, 2 February 2009 03:30 (seventeen years ago)
But I have to keep my self respect, I'll never be a starSince there's just two songs in me, and this is Number Three"--They Might Be Giants, "Number Three"
― Hideous Lump, Monday, 2 February 2009 04:13 (seventeen years ago)
"Why I Write Such Good Songs," by Kleenex Girl Wonder fits here.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 2 February 2009 04:17 (seventeen years ago)
Jim Croce: "I'll Have To Say I Love You In a Song".
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 2 February 2009 13:51 (seventeen years ago)
Also, George Harrison:
This song has nothing tricky about itThis song ain't black or white and as far as I knowDon't infringe on anyone's copyright, so . . .
This song we'll let beThis song is in EThis song is for you and . . .
This tune has nothing Bright about itThis tune ain't bad or good and come ever what mayMy expert tells me it's okay
As this song came to meQuite unknowinglyThis song could be you could be . . .
This riff ain't trying to win gold medalsThis riff ain't hip or squareWell done or rareMay end up one more weight to bear
But this song could well beA reason to see - thatWithout you there's no point to . . . this song
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 2 February 2009 13:53 (seventeen years ago)
And, yep, also "Only a Northern Song". Actually George Harrison is the king of the meta-lyric.
And The Rutles:
Oh yes, of course I do.. (Ah ha, we thought as much) Hang on... who are youse?
(We're the other members of the band) And who invited you to sing along? Go on, answer that! (Well no one, we were only passing by) Well kindly keep on going if you please (But we're only trying to help you with your song) But I don't want any help (Oh yeah, what about the middle eight?) Oh yeah!
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 2 February 2009 13:54 (seventeen years ago)
And of course:
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 2 February 2009 13:56 (seventeen years ago)
Hmm. That was supposed to be "Don't Download This Song" by Yankovic. It seems like the embedding script should be removed from ILM again.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 2 February 2009 14:00 (seventeen years ago)
This thread is reminding me quite how much I dislike These Words by Natasha Bedingfield.
― Matt DC, Monday, 2 February 2009 14:03 (seventeen years ago)
I always rather liked the lyrics to Ani DiFranco's "This Bouquet", though I think it only tenuously satisfies the thread criteria:
Got a garden of songs Where I grow all my thoughtsWish I could harvest one or two For some small talkI'm always starving for words Whenever you're aroundNothing on my tongue So much in the groundNothing on my tongue So much in the ground
Half the time I got my gaze Trained on your motel doorFourth door from the endRest of the time my gaze lays Like a stain on the carpeted floorIf it weren't for my brain I'd just go over and make friendsToo bad about my brain Cuz I'd like to make friends.
See the little song bird Unable to make a soundYou'd never know she follows Her words from town to townWe both have gardens of songs And maybe its okayThat I am speechless Cuz I picked you this bouquetYup, sure am speechlessBut I picked you this bouquet
― Tim F, Monday, 2 February 2009 14:25 (seventeen years ago)
"How strange the change, form major to minor"
― sonofstan, Monday, 2 February 2009 16:51 (seventeen years ago)
^^'From"
Todd Rundgren - "Chain Letter"
This is the ending of my songIt has made me blind and deaf and weak but most of allIt shows you that I'm wrongFor you see it's really twice this long*And if I should die tomorrow it will carry on
* line actually does occur at the song's midpoint
― henry s, Monday, 2 February 2009 18:21 (seventeen years ago)
Karen Mantler - 'My Solo' (file under 'songs that apologize for their own existence')
here is a songthat features meon harmonica
if I had wordsI would singnot play a solo
all I can dois try my besthope I don't get lost
I find it hardto improvise
[harmonica solo]
― small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Monday, 11 April 2016 00:20 (nine years ago)
well I wrote this song with a vamp in the middleand I knew when I wrote itthat I'd written it for the fiddle
-John Hartford
― small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Monday, 11 April 2016 00:22 (nine years ago)
Weird Al's "This Song Is Just Six Words Long" is the first one that comes to mind.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 11 April 2016 00:27 (nine years ago)
Can't believe nobody mentioned "You Never Even Call Me By My Name" with the spoken word part about it being the perfect country and western song.
Also "Our Song" by Taylor Swift, kinda. And Brad Paisley's "This Is Country Music" celebrates itself along with the genre.
Lotta country examples.
― dc, Monday, 11 April 2016 00:41 (nine years ago)
Yes, "You Never Even Call Me By My Name" is a good one.
― Yer Blois (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 April 2016 00:42 (nine years ago)
There is also "Internet curtains" by Denim which basically takes the piss out of itself immensely along the lines of "We've not been going very long / We've only got one good song / And this is it...", leading up to the part where the song becomes a hit because Chris Evans plays it. It would help if I could remember the words, I'm sure.― Rob M, Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:00 AM (13 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this track is pretty much a straight steal from 'Suffice To Say' by Yachts, which uses the same trick ("I never wrote a middle eight/so we'll just have to do without/but there's an instrumental break/right after this")
― soref, Monday, 11 April 2016 01:24 (nine years ago)
(is there anyone who has done this as frequently as Denim/Go Kart Mozart era Lawrence btw?)
― soref, Monday, 11 April 2016 01:26 (nine years ago)
quite a few Randy Newman songs "so I went to the park and took some paper along/and that's where I made this song", "she drives the kids to school/she does the laundry too/she wrote this song for me, listen!"
― soref, Monday, 11 April 2016 01:31 (nine years ago)