Genesis - If We Can Help You We Will

"Trick Of The Tail" is so great that alone makes it extremely necessary.

everything after trick was worse than trick, so it's absolutely necessary (I like duke and w&w and abacab too, just not as much). the album reminds me more of nursery cryme than the previous three records too, weirdly

"everything after trick was worse than trick"

Yes it was, but "Wind And Wuthering" was still brilliant.

are you all seeing part of noodle's question that i'm missing? trick of the tail always one of my least favourite Phil-era albums, but i think thats cos i heard 'seconds out' years before this one, and always felt the studio tracks were shy of the fierceness of the live cuts.

Hmm, I still query the production on this when sober. But what great songs. More consistent than Selling England, certainly, or any of the albums after. Much as I love W&W, that's an album of genius moments floating in middling gravy. This is seven shots to the jaw, only flawed at all by Collins' being a bit of a nob on "Robbery, Assault and Battery". But he makes up for it in the first 10 seconds of "Ripples".

Collins' being a bit of a nob on "Robbery, Assault and Battery"

v much OTM