The best song ever, and no mention of These New Puritans anywhere on here. How weird.
I first heard it in the Dior Homme F/W 2007 show and fell in love with all 17 minutes of it. Pure comedy watching the fashion crowd trying to restrain the feeling to bop along to it.
Any other fans? Are they a decent live act?
― Spinspin Sugah, Monday, 8 October 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago)
I think they're playing at the ICA in London this week (I have never heard this band, but I kept seeing the posters when I was there this past weekend), for what that's worth.
― Ben Boyerrr, Monday, 8 October 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago)
Looks like Domino is finally releasing this track as a 12" with a new remix by The Loving Hand. Interesting.
http://www.dominorecordco.us/?page=releases&releaseID=694
― PeteyPistol, Saturday, 9 February 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)
I know it's not exactly fashionable to talk about an English post-punk influenced band in 2008 (has this re-fit gone on longer now than the original post-punk?) but their album is surprisingly good. It reminds me a lot of the 2nd Futureheads album in tone and style. Navigate - Colours is indeed a standout.
― paulhw, Friday, 9 May 2008 22:37 (seventeen years ago)
Pulled this album back out to play again tonight on a whim and it sounds SO DAMN GOOD right now. Apparently the next one's being recorded right now...
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 27 June 2009 08:10 (sixteen years ago)
right now/right now...ugh.
Heard new single "We Want War" on Marc Riley's show and am now really looking forward to the album.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago)
The album's really good. Fucked up brass band, trip hop in parts. This and the Liars album are both special.
― Doran, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago)
So jealous, two of my most anticipated records of early 2010!
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago)
Mine too! It's good to see them still standing.
― Spinspin Sugah, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago)
Shit got real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIfKqgWPVvk&feature=player_embedded
― Jamie_ATP, Monday, 11 January 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
Totally love this band, can't wait for the new one. Mutant Fall/Wire/electronica blend with vocals that I really shouldn't like but really works for me.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 11 January 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
That is an amazing track - might very well render the Massive Attack record (more) redundant.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 January 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)
Hidden is a damn good record - takes a while to get its hooks in, though.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:13 (fifteen years ago)
This is one of the best new albums I've heard in ages.
― fields of salmon, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)
Agreed. Very good - I'm going to have to spend a while figuring it out - one of those type albums. Quite mindblowing in places. If you think We Want War is good, check out Three Thousand off the album.
― Treblekicker, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)
Can't wait to hear this, but unfortunately it isn't out til March here in the States.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)
One thing—and I feel so bad that it's the first thing I thought about when I heard this album—I just wish the horns had been given more time to rehearse. There's something about the performance that sounds like they're sightreading it. On the Talk Talk records where the horns are deliberately strained sounding you can just tell it took them six months' worth of editing to arrive at. You just wish TNPS had that kind of budget and time.
But thankfully they've basically ditched all the vestigial nu-UK-post-punk-dance stuff that you could tell on the last record they didn't quite know how to reach beyond.
For whatever insane reason this record also reminds me of Coil covering Tears for Fears songs. Ha ha I don't know if I can even explain that.
― fields of salmon, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)
"Coil covering Tears For Fears" - that's brilliant.
Quick observations after my initial listen:- I concur that it's a grower of a record, whereas the debut was utterly immediate.- They seem to use the particular badoom-doom drum sound far too often.- The lead singer has learned how to sing since the debut, and I'm not sure that's a good thing as I loved his wilfully amateurish vocals. Having said that, he sings far less on "Hidden".
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
Haven't heard the other record, but there's some pretty damned amateurish vocals on "White Chords."
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)
Love that track.
― fields of salmon, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
"Drum Courts" is killing me right now, love this album.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 03:56 (fifteen years ago)
it's been a while that indie music has challenged me like this album does
― saaberonixx (baaderonixx), Sunday, 21 February 2010 09:47 (fifteen years ago)
Out today. Probably gonna pick this up on the strength of what I've heard, various YouTube songs and so forth.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)
Got impatient and acquired it anyway. Will probably buy when I have the funds again though, because I absolutely love it.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)
Wau at track I'd say: this album is actually a proper Thing!
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 16 April 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)
"at track 6 I'd say", sorry.
to say that this album is utterly underwhelming after 'we want war' is an understatement
it's like 'hey we had one song that insidiously and skillfully built up the tension to an awesome climax - and a load of other songs that bashed around with loud drums for a bit and didn't develop at all!'
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
well, "5" is really good as well. but the rest can hang.
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
no one in america has ever heard this band
― the food has a top snake of 1 (ulillillia), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)
Hi I live in America and like this band a lot.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, me too. And while I find the new album pales in comparison to the debut, it has grown on me. But we may see it as classic sophomore slump in the future.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)
So if I were to have to choose between seeing this band and Fucked Up, I should see Fucked Up.
NB. I like Fucked Up but have seen them before, and I was curious about TNP because lots of people around here seem to like them.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)
Saw them live in 2008 (American here!) and even though me and one other person were the only ones who knew the lyrics to the songs, it was still a very BIG, fun performance. George kills it on the drums and is very fun to look at.
― Loverboy (Spinspin Sugah), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
nobody has answered my criticisms of the album
'we want war' is one of the best songs of the last few months, but nothing else (apart from '5') lives up to it
― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
Nothing to answer, really, as I more or less agree with you.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)
I don't mind going to bat for these guys. Don't think that Hidden is as one dimensional as LJ has portrayed it. Sure there's repetition of certain themes and sounds, but they're being pulled into different shapes track by track and that's what makes it all hang together as an album IMO. Like those drums - yeah, they're always loud and militaristic, but sometimes they're banging out brute hip-hop-ish beats, other times they're more like some sort of ceremonial music by Purcell, like from one of his marches or something. It ends up suggesting this weird mix of current and historical tensions. Same with stuff like that sword sound that keeps popping up. Is it a Wu-Tang reference? Or is some sort of medievalist shit going on? (I love that sound btw, it's probably a bit naff throwing it in there as this signifier of menace, but I think it really works as a sound in itself. Kind of reminiscent of the way that Ben Frost used the howling wolves on his album last year in that respect?)
Odd that you picked up on the closing track, '5', because that's the one track that I couldn't imagine listening to outside of the context of the preceding tracks. Love the way it start out with those Vespertine-ish chimes, but then the woodwinds start playing what sounds like the same melody they played in 'Canticle' and then there's that choral melody that creeps in that seems to be looking back at 'Orion', but it's a lot more muted this time round. Give it a few more listens as a whole, cos things will start falling into place a bit better then.
― WOOD! GOBLINS! (NickB), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)
BTW:
16 July 2010
Big News:
ĦỊĐĐỂŅ LIVE
This winter, These New Puritans present ‘Hidden Live’ – a chance to to witness the albumperformed, as it was recorded, with 15-piece brass and woodwind ensemble, multipleprepared-pianos, live Foley techniques, taiko drums and more; the orchestra will beconducted by André de Ridder (Gorillaz, Monkey). Following on from the debut per-formance at London’s Barbican Centre in October with the Britten Sinfonia there will followshows at the the Pompidou Centre, Paris, and Crossing Border Festival, Den Hague with moreto be announced in the coming weeks.
― WOOD! GOBLINS! (NickB), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
Kudos to Dorian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/07/these-new-puritans-hidden-interview
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Friday, 8 October 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks Nick. They were exactly how I wanted them to be.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 8 October 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
Extremely good article -- got me interested in the band singlehandedly!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 October 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
Bump.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 29 October 2010 05:21 (fourteen years ago)
All about Fire-Power.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 29 October 2010 05:46 (fourteen years ago)
The music's pretty interesting, but the singing reminds me of Audio Bullys. Also could do with some metal guitars here and there.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:28 (fourteen years ago)
I'm very, very glad at the absence of metal guitars.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:35 (fourteen years ago)
^ see the last paragraph of Dorian's piece linked above
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:36 (fourteen years ago)
But yeah, I could see how they might work in a Young Gods or Tricky 'Black Steel' way.
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:38 (fourteen years ago)
There are just a couple of drops that could use a bit more oomph, and some nice crunchy guitars would do it for me.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago)
Man I really slept on this record this year. Amazing stuff, it's like Mezzanine-era Massive Attack meets Nine Inch Nails meets MIA meets Benjamin Britten meets a really half-arsed singer.
Actually, the vocals are fine if you think of them as imitation 3D or Karl Hyde or someone. But yeah, kind of stunned that anyone would even try and make an album like this, let alone pull it off.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 November 2010 11:10 (fourteen years ago)
Also I would like to hear Dan Perry's opinion on this.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 November 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago)
i think it's my favourite they've done but that's mostly due to them moving in sound a little towards things i like more and becoming a little more accessible i guess? not that field of reeds was bad or anything it's just a bit... idk if dense is the right word but it was more of an appreciate at a distance thing rather than being that moving to me while inside the rose is more direct in appeal. i can understand people who loved field of reeds being a little underwhelmed by this one though.
― ufo, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 03:17 (six years ago)
Field of Reeds is if anything a little bit too diffuse in places, in that the bits that aren't incredible just drift away a little. The new one has a lot more shape to it.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 08:32 (six years ago)
at a certain point i could see this being my album of the year. every time i put it on it's an almost overwhelming experience of depth and beauty lol
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:17 (six years ago)
i'm not sure what the end of "beyond black suns" reminds me of but my god
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:18 (six years ago)
depeche mode plays slowdive's pygmalion
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:31 (six years ago)
reminds me of Air 'New Star In The Sky' a little bit
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 14:42 (six years ago)
Only just hit me the other week the similarity of Where The Trees Are On Fire's chords to the coda of the Beach Boys 'Surf's Up' (also therefore in turn I suppose 'La Ritournelle')
― nashwan, Monday, 23 September 2019 16:18 (five years ago)
I'm currently listening to Field of Reeds on a pair of £50,000 Linn speakers and *fucking hell*.
(Not my speakers, obviously)
― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 December 2019 16:04 (five years ago)
Envious
― doug watson, Thursday, 26 December 2019 22:00 (five years ago)
NEW MUSIC Listen here:https://t.co/aG0LLIzWqMthank you to RUSHMORE HIGH SCHOOL for their dystopian vocalsTHE MIRAGE is a song we originally wrote when we were 16 , now reformed.more soon – - tnpX pic.twitter.com/bpjTItrQsB— THESE NEW PURITANS (@TNPs) January 29, 2020
― nxd, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 13:57 (five years ago)
This song is kind of silly but I am still digging it hardcore
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:27 (five years ago)
very few bands can pull off a non-horrible song with a kids' choir; TNP is thankfully one of them
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 January 2020 18:20 (five years ago)
Absolutely loved Inside The Rose
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 May 2022 20:44 (three years ago)
a live date in london and new music on its way...
https://www.instagram.com/p/DGnMxSLojbc/
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Friday, 28 February 2025 14:17 (six months ago)
Ooh
― my favorite herbs are fennel and Drake (DJP), Friday, 28 February 2025 19:19 (six months ago)
new post says "TOMORROW"
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Monday, 10 March 2025 14:28 (six months ago)
a new TNP album would be most appreciated at this present moment of shit
― jeff bezoar (sawdust lagoon), Monday, 10 March 2025 19:02 (six months ago)
and there it is:
These New Puritans today announce their hugely anticipated new album Crooked Wing, due for release on 23 May in multiple digital, CD and vinyl formats, via Domino.Crooked Wing is the band's long-awaited fifth album - their first in six years. Produced by Jack Barnett and Bark Psychosis pioneer Graham Sutton and executive produced by George Barnett, it ranges from brutal to beautiful, and cements TNP’s reputation for visionary music that defies categorisation and convention. It features an unpredictable lineup of guest musicians such as Caroline Polachek and veteran jazz double-bassist Chris Laurence.These New Puritans - Essex brothers Jack and George Barnett - are previewing the record with the double A-side single "Bells" / "Industrial Love Song," both of which are available to stream and download now.
Crooked Wing is the band's long-awaited fifth album - their first in six years. Produced by Jack Barnett and Bark Psychosis pioneer Graham Sutton and executive produced by George Barnett, it ranges from brutal to beautiful, and cements TNP’s reputation for visionary music that defies categorisation and convention. It features an unpredictable lineup of guest musicians such as Caroline Polachek and veteran jazz double-bassist Chris Laurence.
These New Puritans - Essex brothers Jack and George Barnett - are previewing the record with the double A-side single "Bells" / "Industrial Love Song," both of which are available to stream and download now.
― jeff bezoar (sawdust lagoon), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 10:11 (five months ago)
so stoked
― nxd, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 10:34 (five months ago)
two new songs out today...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ-MWiFgIzsTHESE NEW PURITANS - INDUSTRIAL LOVE SONG [FEATURING CAROLINE POLACHEK]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1EJe8QwEQATHESE NEW PURITANS - BELLS
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 13:48 (five months ago)
floored by these
― ivy., Tuesday, 11 March 2025 14:00 (five months ago)
wowwwww gorgeous, both of them
― donna rouge, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 14:08 (five months ago)
these are just wonderful, if they keep this up this should be their best album
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 14:19 (five months ago)
Preordered the hell out of this of course.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 14:40 (five months ago)
stunning tracks
― nxd, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 15:53 (five months ago)
"bells" is especially astounding, all those rhythmic shifts
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 20:28 (five months ago)
it's sort of like five blue nile songs seamlessly stitched together, but it's a lot more than that
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 20:34 (five months ago)
Bells is a masterpiece and it's only track 2 on the new record. This could be an incredible album. Gonna be a long wait until release day
― jeff bezoar (sawdust lagoon), Wednesday, 12 March 2025 02:03 (five months ago)
yeah it's wild that bells is only track 2 and not the album's centrepiece
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 March 2025 03:13 (five months ago)
track times:
Waiting 3:08Bells 7:05A Season in Hell 5:04Industrial Love Song 3:50I'm Already Here 6:10Wild Fields (I Don’t Want To) 4:05The Old World 3:51Crooked Wing 6:14Goodnight 5:49Return 2:07
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 March 2025 03:14 (five months ago)
both of these tracks wouldn't be too out of place on secrets of the beehive
― ufo, Thursday, 13 March 2025 02:18 (five months ago)
I was saying to Joseph that “Industrial Love Song” could be their “Don’t Give Up”.
I thought Inside the Rose was their best album so if this beats that it could be… the best album ever?
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 March 2025 08:36 (five months ago)
feel spoiled by new TNP and Real Lies albums in the same couple of months. humour me here, it's like when Bark Psychosis albums were coming out at the same time as Disco Inferno's
― Clock DVLA (NickB), Thursday, 13 March 2025 09:00 (five months ago)
"bells" is the best thing they've ever done so i'm fully expecting the album to live up to that
― ufo, Thursday, 13 March 2025 09:13 (five months ago)
doing a discog run, pretty sure this is the greatest band of all time that isn't the radio dept.
― ivy., Monday, 24 March 2025 17:58 (five months ago)
Need to go back and listen to Hidden one of these days, feel like it could hard in this present moment
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Monday, 24 March 2025 21:17 (five months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmRykHQsoIM
― ivy., Tuesday, 29 April 2025 12:14 (four months ago)
nowhere near as incredible as the first two singles but still pretty decent
― ufo, Tuesday, 29 April 2025 20:41 (four months ago)
i like this, good to know the new one will have its loud moments
― Reggaeton Sax (NickB), Tuesday, 29 April 2025 21:06 (four months ago)
ah the beautiful isle of sheppey
― nxd, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 15:43 (four months ago)
Yeah I like this as a clear contrast to the other released tracks - it’s as if they updated Hidden vibes for their current sound/approach.
― Tim F, Thursday, 1 May 2025 07:05 (four months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vad8yBqJZuU
pretty good!
― ufo, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 05:21 (three months ago)
Two more days until the entire album is released. This has been a very long countdown
― jeff bezoar (sawdust lagoon), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 08:08 (three months ago)
i really like how they're trying to recreate depeche mode without synthesisers here
"bells" is still the best thing i've heard all year
― ufo, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 11:33 (three months ago)
Couldn't wait for my preorder to be released tomorrow. The leak is out and yeah, this is fantastic. Can report that the early promise of Bells is upheld, particularly on the quieter second half. Title track is chill-inducing.
― jeff bezoar (sawdust lagoon), Thursday, 22 May 2025 16:05 (three months ago)
nothing else quite touches "bells" but this is still excellent and their best work
― ufo, Thursday, 22 May 2025 19:39 (three months ago)
I had sky-high expectations for this and fuuuccckkk it delivers.
― Tim F, Friday, 23 May 2025 00:10 (three months ago)
"Industrial Love Song" had me worried they weren't going to be industrial at all this time, but "Wild Fields" delivers. (I do like the whole thing, but I tend to like them more the louder the drums are)
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 23 May 2025 19:28 (three months ago)
The Old World is gorgeous
― nxd, Sunday, 25 May 2025 19:19 (three months ago)
(as is the whole album obviously)
― nxd, Sunday, 25 May 2025 19:23 (three months ago)