A question about recording mono albums...

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Hello.

Say I have a copy of "Their Satanic Majesties", the original mono issue. I decide to record it. But the record is a bit crackly.

The music is dang right in the middle of the stereo picture, but the majority of the crackles are left, right, or slightly to one side of the middle.

Is there a way of recording where you take the sound that's not on either side, only on 'both'?

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

Obviously you can do the reverse of this -- removing only what's on both channels -- with vocal remover plugins, but I don't think you can do what you want. It would be simple enough, though tedious, to do it manually, but really I don't understand why anyone bothers to record non-rare vinyl.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

A mono "TSM" is a bit rare.

A lot of old albums were supposedly mixed for mono, and those are the 'definitive' versions. Stereo mixing, by comparison, is quite easy as you tend not to 'lose' instruments by being drowned by louder sounds if you can 'place' them apart.

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure you could do this with some audio editing software, I often amuse myself remixing irritatingly unbalanced 60s stereo mixes to make them easier on my modern ears

Tom D., Tuesday, 6 November 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Ask your audio software to use "MS" or "mid/side" encoding (I know Soundforge does this, I think Goldwave does, can't speak for anything else), which will make the 2 channels you get to play with not left/right but stuff which used to be in the middle vs stuff which was panned hard left or right. Then you just need to work out which is which and copy that track only.

I am not guaranteeing that this works as well in practice as it does in writing - actually I'd be surprised if it did - but that sounds like what you want in theory. Anything not 100% to one side will still be there on the mid channel, however, but hopefully not as loud.

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

That's the sort of thing, thanks!

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

a mono CD boot of satanic majesties won't cost you TOOOOOO much, and they're probably on slsk as well.

ian, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

I record non-rare vinyl quite often, just cos I like doing it, and often it comes out better than rips I dl off slsk anyway. Also, (and this is the sad vinyl geek part) the pops and clicks are then MY pops and clicks and don't annoy me as much.

However, I have no solution to your problem, sorry.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

xpost oh sure, but then when you got one already...

Funnily enough, one of the reasons for this was my car has a cassette player, but when I use the cassette adaptor/line in, the sound is mono/quiet/bad.

But then I tried turning the cassette over, and hey presto, it's stereo/sounds good now.

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)


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