nary a bad song on this entire album, def in my top five of the year
― cutty, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)
engineered by my homie dave fridmann
this is pretty good,this MANAGEMENT band.on first listen at least. they toured with Of Montreal on their latest tour. very hooky poppy 80's sort of indie stuff. like something in between lcd soundsystem and early new pornographers (?!)though im not sure they are as good as those 2 bands.time will tell.
― Zeno, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 09:24 (eighteen years ago)
ILE missing persons dept.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 09:29 (eighteen years ago)
anyway these dudes are really good. singer is great. same kinda swirly reverbed-out shit i liked on those black kids songs. would v much like to see mgmt/yeasayer tour.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 09:33 (eighteen years ago)
also this type of thread is exactly what rolling indie '08 is made for.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 09:48 (eighteen years ago)
"same kinda swirly reverbed-out shit i liked on those black kids songs"
yep
― Zeno, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 09:49 (eighteen years ago)
whoa whoa whoa
the songwriting here is so much better than black kids! "electric feel" and "kids" are a one-two punch that cannot be reckoned with
― cutty, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 14:53 (eighteen years ago)
wow it took two months for other people to show interest :/
― cutty, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 14:54 (eighteen years ago)
"other people " = onle me..
― Zeno, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 14:55 (eighteen years ago)
only
― Zeno, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 14:56 (eighteen years ago)
what about the other guy in the thread
― cutty, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:06 (eighteen years ago)
yeah right. but with the new "rolling indie thread" expect a minimum of new other ilxors to show interest in the future..
― Zeno, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:10 (eighteen years ago)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PeEn1PTyL._SS500_.jpg
― cutty, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:16 (eighteen years ago)
dude on the right looks eerily like mickey avalon
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 20:02 (eighteen years ago)
ftr ive only heard this album 2 or 3 times and i wasn't blown away i just remember thinking that it was a pretty good indie recrod.
w/r/t/ black kids i was strictly talking about the way the vocals sound even tho the synths on "time to pretend" (for example) really do sound like black kids.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 20:05 (eighteen years ago)
on letterman tomorrow (tues 1/7)
― johnny crunch, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:00 (eighteen years ago)
gah, 1/8 make that
So, this is pretty much music for people for whom Ariel Pink is just a little too darn weird, right?
I will say that I love "Electric Feel" in spite of myself. Pretty infectious tune, that...
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:03 (eighteen years ago)
Good record, I don't get the New Pornogarphers or LCD Soundsystem influences - just beautiful mix of psych- and synth-pop, and indie prog.
― zeus, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:30 (eighteen years ago)
They also toured with Of Montreal in 2005, which is when I saw them and they were just a 2-piece and my friend bought their EP and started playing it as drinking music all the time and now they've put out this album with some of the same songs on it and it's pretty cool.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:57 (eighteen years ago)
i am lovin' "time to pretend" so much....totally sums up everything for me right now
― gman, Sunday, 27 January 2008 21:11 (seventeen years ago)
"go to paris shoot some heroin and fuck with the stars"? btw,great song. reminds me of that dandy warhols "heroin is so passe" song
― Zeno, Monday, 28 January 2008 01:02 (seventeen years ago)
one of those dudes is the local alt-weekly editor's kid. i kind of like what I've heard of it. even odds that single will be tapped for a ford fusion spot by the end of the year.
― will, Monday, 28 January 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)
Weekend Wars is the best song there.
― zeus, Monday, 28 January 2008 11:10 (seventeen years ago)
i surprisingly love this album, yes, love. actually i only love the first half, the second half is a bit zzz
― rizzx, Monday, 28 January 2008 20:40 (seventeen years ago)
i agree the first half is better. anyway, not seeing the lcd soundsystem influence as someone posted above is weird... they have the hooks, they have the slicky production, and the album is fun.im happy this record doesnt get the hype treatment of "vampire weekend" - (it's not ground-breaking but so what)in this quiet, way it will take for me longer to get tired of it
― Zeno, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)
im about half way through this album and im loving it. i guess it doesnt keep this pace up the whole time according to previous posts but the first half was still great and i see myself listening to it a lot more after this.
― gman, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)
also where is this cover http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/MGMT_Oracular_Spectacular.jpg ive only seen the other one that has been posted in stores
― gman, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:05 (seventeen years ago)
http://bp3.blogger.com/_ZAraSxOWlLw/R5-2GNLWvpI/AAAAAAAAAgE/T5oQdQykzLs/s1600-h/battlessxsw.jpg
― mizzell, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 20:09 (seventeen years ago)
― mizzell, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)
i had "time to pretend" in my head this morning and for a while i couldn't think of what it was and i was thinking "it's something like night ranger" and then i remembered.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 20:12 (seventeen years ago)
MP3s have been in rotation all month and many of the songs are really growing on me. I was buying Vampire Weekend at Borders yesterday and found a couple MGMT cds buried deep in the misc M section. Trying not to spend too much so I didn't get it, but I did put the two they had on the New Releases display where they belonged. I'm seeing them on Friday with Yeasayer. If they impress me at the show I'll probably buy it there.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 31 January 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)
i've been told to check this out
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 January 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)
LOL @ popjustice review:
Boring boring boring Story filed Wednesday, 27 February 2008
We went to see MGMT last night and were treated to the (in some ways) impressive sight of several men taking a very listenable album and, via the magic of live musicianship, making it seem terrible.
Christ on a bike they were boring. There were several lengthy muso spag-outs and they didn't play 'Kids', one of the handful of songs they are currently using to make people think they are good.
Also one of them was wearing a gold blouse.
IMPARTIAL ADVICE TO MGMT 1. Get a drum machine 2. Sort out some sort of laser show or glitter cannon 3. Etc
One of the people we were with is a fan of Proper Music and liked the big muso spag-out at the end so if you like Proper Music maybe you too will enjoy the MGMT live experience.
For political reasons we would like to point out that last night's event, an NME-sponsored show put on in the run-up to tomorrow's NME Awards, was otherwise extremely well organised and enjoyable.
― StanM, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 11:53 (seventeen years ago)
Everything I've read about them just makes me assume they sound like Mercury Rev or the Flaming Lips? Is this a reasonable assumption?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 12:13 (seventeen years ago)
Please tell me a 'muso spag-out' is something artistically inspired that involves pasta. I can't read British.
― fukasaku tollbooth, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 12:20 (seventeen years ago)
Interesting to learn about Fridmann's involvement, I hear Mercury Rev in this for sure. Am I the only one slightly reminded of Len's "Steal My Sunshine" by the first song?
― sonnypike, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 12:25 (seventeen years ago)
am i the only one who loves this album, but hates the mastering/compression which makes some songs sound very harsh.
― mark e, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 13:29 (seventeen years ago)
Haha, I was just gonna ask if Fridmann had squashed it like he does everything else.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 14:12 (seventeen years ago)
its pretty fucking painful to be honest. which is a real shame as i would love to play this really loud, but increased volume just kills it.
― mark e, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)
i think this is weak
― gff, Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:30 (seventeen years ago)
Had to do this in the Plan B singles club last month. Made one of the eds sputter so hard they turned it off after 30 seconds. I made them put it back on.
Sounds nothing like Flaming Lips or Mercury Rev. Sounds like a somewhat polite, boring, Canadian version of the Dandy Warhols.
― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:35 (seventeen years ago)
-- zeus, Monday, January 28, 2008 3:10 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link
zeus and cutty OTM.
I like this record. The other artist comparisons are really song to song I think. Weekend Wars sounds kind of Bowie to me. I also hear Mercury Rev (circa Deserter's Songs) in the vocals on Time to Pretend but not others.
― felicity, Saturday, 1 March 2008 22:17 (seventeen years ago)
and don't forget Grandaddy's sophomore slump
― Zeno, Saturday, 1 March 2008 22:19 (seventeen years ago)
Heard "Time To Pretend" on the radio at Jimmy John's today and was like, hey, this is pretty all right. Googled it and discovered it was MGMT, a band that some friends of mine in Georgia were obsessed with about a year and a half or two years ago. Went to their shows seemingly on a biweekly basis, never heard anything but good things about them.
A week or so ago Facebook informed me that one of these women had "removed 'MGMT' from their favorite music."
I don't know how any of this hangs together. Need to listen to the song again, maybe.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 2 March 2008 01:56 (seventeen years ago)
I do hear a little "Tribulations" by LCD Soundsystem, (very downtempo), in "Time to Pretend" and "Kids."
― felicity, Sunday, 2 March 2008 02:06 (seventeen years ago)
We went to see MGMT last night and were treated to the (in some ways) impressive sight of several men taking a very listenable album and, via the magic of live musicianship, making it seem terrible. Christ on a bike they were boring.
Popjustice OTM. I hot-footed it from the end of the (great) Menomena gig 10 minutes' walk away, blagged it in... and was utterly underwhelmed, along with most people in the audience.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 3 March 2008 10:12 (seventeen years ago)
They were totally under-whelming at the ICA in London last night as well - exactly as described above. A great pop album turned into dull stoner rock and very little sense of style or performance (quite unlike the cd or videos) until the second encore when they dumped the band and did a truly fantastic and slightly pissed disco PA style performance of 'kids'. For the first time they sounded and looked great. Dump the band and go shopping for some better clothes would be my advice. They're sort of on the cusp between Tyrannosaurus and T-Rex and if were them I'd go for the glitter.
― Guy Beckett, Thursday, 6 March 2008 12:28 (seventeen years ago)
Bit of further digging suggests they began with disco PAs and are now going authentic. Shame.
― Guy Beckett, Thursday, 6 March 2008 13:25 (seventeen years ago)
Just bought this album and am surprised to find that it's stronger than I was expecting it to be. My head hasn't really been in an uptempo/dance place lately but I am digging this. Someone upthread said the last half loses it but I actually think it gains depth as it goes on. "Of Moons, Birds & Monsters" and "The Handshake" are both terrific, especially the former.
― pgwp, Sunday, 29 June 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)
Kids > Time to Pretend
― gabbneb, Sunday, 29 June 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)
Took me this long to actually play the whole record till the end. First few listens I hated it, but now I'm definitely loving Elec. and Kids. Especially Electric Feel really does it for me. Mainly because of the Merc. Rev similarity. I love the production, yep, I love myself some compression. I'll probably get bored of it once summer closes its door though. Ah well.
― stevienixed, Monday, 11 August 2008 20:59 (seventeen years ago)
the first 5 on the album + fuck'in great.. the cover = fuck'in great... while it lasted..
― mmmm, Monday, 11 August 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)
Man, I love the one that goes "A family of treeeeees wanted / to beeeeeee haunted"...
― Savannah Smiles, Monday, 11 August 2008 23:23 (seventeen years ago)
aeroplane remix of electric feel is nice..
― vain_bowers, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 13:59 (seventeen years ago)
I wrote a piece on the lyrics of Oracular Spectacular for themorningnews.org. Totally pimping for myself here, but I'd be curious to hear feedback from some fans.
Cheers,
― Wordsworth, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 17:22 (seventeen years ago)
I go back to this album about every two months and like it more each time after completely shrugging it off in the beginning. It's destined to land in my year-end list.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 17:25 (seventeen years ago)
here's some feedback: you're a moron
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 18:49 (seventeen years ago)
pretend-sexy children of privilege
― update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 18:52 (seventeen years ago)
― Wordsworth, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 17:22 (2 hours ago)
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2008/09/custom_1222184456199_20080923__82875236AW011_SENATE_HOLDS_fail_p1.jpg
― Surfboard Pre (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:36 (seventeen years ago)
Speaking of FAIL, I saw MGMT open for Beck on Saturday. I'd love to see them rock a house party, but any venue larger than that seems beyond their abilities to engage.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)
they played the TV Guide after-emmys party i went to. last year they got kanye lollll
― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 23:46 (seventeen years ago)
"fans"
― Edward III, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 02:37 (seventeen years ago)
I still haven't heard this band, but I get the impression that their words aren't really what's so spectacular about them, or worth, say, the attention of an entire piece like this.
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)
wow what a waste of your innate journalistic prowess
― cutty, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:33 (seventeen years ago)
Wordsworth, I didn't read your piece, but my honest advice would be to get away from this forum while you can still summon the enthusiasm to create an article like that. Hanging around this bunch of brutal dicks is not going to help you with your writing or your life.
― Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)
Brave new "fuck off newbie"-free ILx not.
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:51 (seventeen years ago)
Some survive, Wordsworth. Some survive. But they suffer.
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:53 (seventeen years ago)
"These are just simple people. People of the land. You know...morons."
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:55 (seventeen years ago)
i like their words a good bit. however, i don't think 'wordsworth' understands them.
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:58 (seventeen years ago)
If rock 'n' roll is the sound of rebellious youth, a split between generations
Rock n roll hasn't been the sound of rebellious youth for at least 10 years
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)
10?
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)
Oh I remember the days...back in '98...that was REAL music, nothing like these kids today
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)
I'm talking specifically about rock and roll as an expression of generational difference / something to upset your parents with
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:28 (seventeen years ago)
lol, how old are all the people on here commenting on the rock n' roll music of the last decade and the rebellious youth?
― funderwear (san frandisco), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:49 (seventeen years ago)
run forrest, run
― 6335, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)
Cheers to Savannah Smiles, to LBC's for the Blazing Saddles quote, and to everyone else who took time to read the piece. It's heartening to find diamonds amongst the trolls and lols.
― Wordsworth, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:09 (seventeen years ago)
I'm talking specifically about rock and roll as an expression of gen
YAAAH TRICK YAAHH
― skygreenleopard, Friday, 26 September 2008 20:51 (seventeen years ago)
MGMT ft. Jim Jones - Electric Feel (Remix)
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 00:04 (seventeen years ago)
oh lord
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 00:14 (seventeen years ago)
haha you opened this thread
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 00:17 (seventeen years ago)
to be honest if you don't pay attention to jim it's not half-bad
sounds like some puffy/mase type shit
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 00:18 (seventeen years ago)
it is surreal to hear jim jones saying "MGMT" though
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 00:20 (seventeen years ago)
lol i already posted in this threadreal real tired of that song though
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 00:20 (seventeen years ago)
i like jones' punch-ins - "EHHH!" "Splashhhhhh..."
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 00:22 (seventeen years ago)
by 'like' i mean lol wtf obviously this is pretty stupid
i hope jim was in urban outfitters shopping for shawls when he heard this song and decided to remix it
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 00:24 (seventeen years ago)
ok i'm an official sucker for "time to pretend".
however i agree with the comments above about the production. it would be 10x better if it actually was mercury rev singing and playing and producing it.
in any case "time to pretend" is a towering accomplishment. you start off thinking that we, us office drones, are the ones pretending. and by the end it seems like the putative rock star heroes are the ones pretending - to have a happy life, a fulfilling marriage, etc. - and then you realize this message is being conveyed by rock musicians to fans, in whose brains the message gets reconstituted and flows back to the musicians in some weird way. and the song itself sounds vast, enormous, encompassing, anthemic - if you heard it live it might self-detonate into some kind of mid-period seterolab squall of fuzztone drone. (so it's disappointing to hear they're not so good live. like, really disappointing.)
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:21 (seventeen years ago)
ONE OF US
now go and listen to Late of the Pier
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 14:42 (seventeen years ago)
ok i think i will
do you pronounce this band "management" or what cause i sure ain't goin around saying each letter
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:12 (sixteen years ago)
"Mid-period Mercury Rev meets corny indie stadium rock" describes how I now think of these guys. Don't Stop Fritterin'?
― Cunga, Sunday, 17 May 2009 22:04 (sixteen years ago)
x-post: you would rather say management than em gee em tea?
― samosa gibreel, Sunday, 17 May 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)
em gee em tea for me
― billstevejim, Monday, 18 May 2009 02:17 (sixteen years ago)
First Kids cover I've heard that it's actually worth listening to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgpsXURZFo4&
― Moka, Friday, 23 April 2010 16:45 (fifteen years ago)
Me watching the Netflix Trainwreck episode last night during an early montage sequence set back around those 2006 to 2008 years, remember them?:
"Oh, so they licensed "Kids" for this."
"Wait that's not the actual keyboard part in full."
"They got a soundalike track?"
Posted a note to this effect on social media, and per my friend Ben, a former board denizen:
"If you watch the scene with the subtitles on, they show the lyrics to “Kids”! So they clearly had it in the edit and then couldn’t afford it and threw in a soundalike!"
It's kinda amazing how it is almost the song, and then it isn't.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 July 2025 18:01 (six months ago)
Was it the version from the Time to Pretend EP?
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 10 July 2025 19:05 (six months ago)
If that has a same-but-different version of the keyboard hook...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 July 2025 19:06 (six months ago)
yeah, it's a bit different. the choruses drop a note in the middle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTagSe82WBQ
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 10 July 2025 19:19 (six months ago)
woops, that's meant to start at 22 minute mark. assuming it's this version, probably cheaper to license.
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 10 July 2025 20:53 (six months ago)