jay-z blueprint poll

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OptionVotes
2. Takeover (5:13) 9
6. U Don't Know (3:19) 8
8. Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love) (3:43) 7
3. Izzo (H.O.V.A.) (4:00) 6
7. Hola' Hovito (4:33) 4
4. Girls, Girls, Girls (4:35) 4
5. Jigga That Nigga (3:24) 2
9. Never Change (3:58) 2
12. Renegade (5:37) 1
10. Song Cry (5:03) 1
11. All I Need (4:28) 1
1. The Ruler's Back (3:49) 0
13. Blue Print (Momma Loves Me)0


groovemaaan, Friday, 16 November 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

u don't know

groovemaaan, Friday, 16 November 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

i think we already did this?

J0rdan S., Friday, 16 November 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

if not, "heart of the city"

J0rdan S., Friday, 16 November 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

I scramble like Randall with his
Cunning-ham but the only thing runnin is numbers fam
Jigga held you down six summers; damn, where's the love?

J0rdan S., Friday, 16 November 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

how i'd rank them, off the top of my head:

6. U Don't Know (3:19)
8. Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love) (3:43)
2. Takeover (5:13)
11. All I Need (4:28)
12. Renegade (5:37)
10. Song Cry (5:03)
4. Girls, Girls, Girls (4:35)
5. Jigga That Nigga (3:24)
13. Blue Print (Momma Loves Me)
1. The Ruler's Back (3:49)
3. Izzo (H.O.V.A.) (4:00)
7. Hola' Hovito (4:33)
9. Never Change (3:58)

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

sensitive thugs, ya all need hugs

ciderpress, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

alex in bmore more or less otm

deej, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

might move izzo up a couple spots.

deej, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

I'd put Izzo, Blueprint, and Hola Hovito waaay higher

xpost

Jordan, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

am i the only one who likes "never change" then

ciderpress, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

no

Girls, Girls, Girls>Blue Print

gabbneb, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Never Change

The Brainwasher, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

am i the only one who likes "never change" then

-- ciderpress, Friday, November 16, 2007 2:41 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i think so.

i think "hola hovito" is top 4, too.

J0rdan S., Friday, 16 November 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

ok i guess not.

J0rdan S., Friday, 16 November 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

i voted for heart of the city anyway

ciderpress, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

"Hola Hovito" is OK (definitely not my favorite Jay album but I have to admit I don't even dislike my least favorite songs), but as far as songs that defy the album's whole aesthetic/concept I prefer "Jigga That Nigga."

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 16 November 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

yeah thats otm too

deej, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Eh, I'd take "Hovito" over "Jigga" any day.

On another note

i sell ice in the winter
i sell fire in hell
i am a hustler baby
i sell water to a well
i was born to get cake
move on & switch states
cop the coupe with the roof gone & switch plates
born to dictate never follow order dickface
get ya shit straight fucka this is big jay

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

6. U Don't Know (3:19)
3. Izzo (H.O.V.A.) (4:00)
1. The Ruler's Back (3:49)
8. Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love) (3:43)
2. Takeover (5:13)
11. All I Need (4:28)
7. Hola' Hovito (4:33)
9. Never Change (3:58)
10. Song Cry (5:03)
12. Renegade (5:37)
13. Blue Print (Momma Loves Me)
5. Jigga That Nigga (3:24)
4. Girls, Girls, Girls (4:35)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

I voted "Izzo" cos that's the anthem

Euler, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

I'll never get 9/11 out of Izzo

gabbneb, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

what's the connection with 9/11?

Euler, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

what they did to the cold crush - never forget

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

^ good work

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

lol I see that it came out on 9/11, didn't remember that

Euler, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

Eminem's never topped "Renegade," but I'll vote for "Heart of the City."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 November 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah Alex in B's ranking is eerily close to what mine would be:

Heart of the City
U Don't Know
The Takeover
All I Need
Renegade
Izzo (H.O.V.A.)
Song Cry
The Ruler's Back
Girls, Grils, Girls
Jigga That Nigga
Hola Hovito
The Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)
Never Change

Tim F, Saturday, 17 November 2007 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

heart of the city for me

Billy Pilgrim, Saturday, 17 November 2007 02:23 (eighteen years ago)

i still might vote for something other than "U Don't Know" just because the MOP remix has completely replaced the original in my mind.

Alex in Baltimore, Saturday, 17 November 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)

2. Takeover (5:13)
8. Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love) (3:43)
7. Hola' Hovito (4:33)
10. Song Cry (5:03)
3. Izzo (H.O.V.A.) (4:00)
4. Girls, Girls, Girls (4:35)
12. Renegade (5:37)
6. U Don't Know (3:19)

^^^ awesome
vvv not awesome

5. Jigga That Nigga (3:24)
13. Blue Print (Momma Loves Me)
9. Never Change (3:58)
1. The Ruler's Back (3:49)
11. All I Need (4:28)

The Reverend, Saturday, 17 November 2007 07:25 (eighteen years ago)

"All I Need" is the great underrated track on this album i think.

Tim F, Saturday, 17 November 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

"jigga that nigga" is also v awesome, if only for the fake white dude voice.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 17 November 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

1. Girls, Girls, Girls - cut by just enough humor, a love-man rap that despite the boasts is really about letting someone into your life.
2. Izzo (H.O.V.A.) - teenybopper rap, yes, but pretty great teenybopper rap - it's, you know, got a good beat, and you can bug out to it. a little plastic, though.
3. Hola' Hovito - beat is sick (is that the Dead in the background?), if a little slow. the rapping services it a little too much at first, but comes to dominate it in the second verse, not a small feat.
4. Never Change - stubbornness=individuality. Heart of the City dreams about being this pretty.
5. Song Cry - succeeding at Sinatra doesn't give you license to go flirting with Bacharach. still, song doesn't cross the line and the lyrics are great - extra points for Four Seasons brunch.
6. Blue Print (Momma Loves Me) - affecting, and builds to subtly head-nodding. i admit to liking sentimentality more than the average bear.
7. The Ruler's Back - production as much as anything else, but a suitably regal fanfare.
8. Renegade - what, you need help? ok, it's pretty great help, and the lyrical game is raised, but the (typically downbeat/kinda shitty) production's out of place and i don't buy the persona-connection.
9. Breathe Easy (Lyrical Exercise) - spare track has better rapping than some of the regular album.
10. All I Need - wait, there's rapping on this record? interesting beat, some good lyrics, but a little too slight and long.
11. Girls Girls Girls (Remix) - Girls Girls Girls + Izzo = much less than the sum of its parts, more self-centered than the original.
12. Takeover - yeah yeah yeah. it's a beef song for 14 year olds, with a plodding beat. don't make me listen to the Doors, dude.
13. Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love) - good if MOR production, but song's a little whiny and boring, and while I don't like Nas nearly as much, he's a more convincing old-school exponent.
14. Jigga That Nigga - points for rapping, i guess, but other than the "gnarly, dude" line, just a rap-by-numbers track that probably could have fit in nicely on blueprint 2.
15. U Don't Know - ok, that one couplet is great, but shut up already, Alvin. basically an annoying backing track with some dude talking on it - bring on Brownsville.

gabbneb, Saturday, 17 November 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

switch 9 and 10?

gabbneb, Saturday, 17 November 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

takeover

aconner2, Saturday, 17 November 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

vvv not awesome

5. Jigga That Nigga (3:24)
13. Blue Print (Momma Loves Me)
9. Never Change (3:58)
1. The Ruler's Back (3:49)
11. All I Need (4:28)

-- The Reverend, Saturday, 17 November 2007 07:25

wow how you get so wrong

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

out of that group, only "jigga that nigga" is actually "awesome"

J0rdan S., Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

smh

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

The Ruler's Back on good speakers is the flyest shit ever.

All I Need = classic just for the opening 30 seconds

Never Change = man are you deaf or what

Blue Print = meh

Jigga That Nigga = god i hate that song

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

no 'all i need' is hot too:

"All I Need" is the great underrated track on this album i think.

-- Tim F, Saturday, 17 November 2007 13:32 (8 hours ago) Link


otm
blue print momma loves me is also not bad and wtf who hates 'the ruler's back'??
gabbneb is rong thread level rong but good of him to point out breathe easy which was hottt

deej, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

Jigga That Nigga = god i hate that song

why??

deej, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't say those songs were bad. There isn't a bad song on the album. They just don't bowl me over with their awesomeness, that is all.

The Reverend, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)

I was more responding to the Sarge

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

all i need is great, but the opening "fuck it, I guess I got my swagger back" is like yoga flame

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 17 November 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

"ruler's back" is okay, those horns annoy me. "never change" is aiiight, but in between "heart of the city" and "song cry" it's kinda out of it's league, and "all i need" is good not great.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 17 November 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

"The Ruler's Back" = starting point of "Jay-Z in Vegas" sound.

The Reverend, Sunday, 18 November 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

All I Need is the hardest to place - I could put it as high as 5th - but if all he needs is, you know, one mic, then why are Kanye and the Chipmunks all over the album?

gabbneb, Sunday, 18 November 2007 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

ok, I should have put Heart of the City a few places higher

gabbneb, Sunday, 18 November 2007 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

All I Need is the hardest to place - I could put it as high as 5th - but if all he needs is, you know, one mic, then why are Kanye and the Chipmunks all over the album?

-- gabbneb, Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:13 PM (Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:13 PM) Bookmark Link

Mix up Nas & Jay-Z tunes much?

The Reverend, Sunday, 18 November 2007 00:43 (eighteen years ago)

well duh it's between that and the song it precedes but i love them both pretty equally

MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 04:12 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

gotta
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project chick

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)

that's spanish chick, french chick, indian, and black
that's fried chicken, curry chicken, damn i'm gettin fat

k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:55 (thirteen years ago)

Would've voted for "u don't know," some days it's my fave Hov

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:55 (thirteen years ago)

arroz con polio

The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:21 (thirteen years ago)

six months pass...

said last night that "Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love)" a better NYC anthem than "Empire State of Mind" and the guys looked at me like I'd said "Blue Magic" was J's best.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 July 2013 21:53 (twelve years ago)

if the city of New York was an anthropomorphic figure, I'm sure it would have extended two middle fingers to Jay for "Empire".

Neanderthal, Sunday, 7 July 2013 21:57 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knnIEY3bmQI

some dude, Sunday, 7 July 2013 22:09 (twelve years ago)

1. all i need
2. u don't know
3. song cry
4. ain't no love
5. never change
6. momma loves me
7. ruler's back
8. hola hovito
9. jigga that nigga
10. izzo
11. girls girls girls
12. renegade
13. takeover

dylannn, Sunday, 7 July 2013 22:10 (twelve years ago)

13. takeover

wat

Neanderthal, Sunday, 7 July 2013 22:15 (twelve years ago)

even if nas can forgive and forget, i never can

dylannn, Sunday, 7 July 2013 22:15 (twelve years ago)

lol

some dude, Sunday, 7 July 2013 22:38 (twelve years ago)

hahaha

balls, Sunday, 7 July 2013 23:44 (twelve years ago)

legends/myths believed by nas stans

lady steendriver (The Reverend), Monday, 8 July 2013 02:03 (twelve years ago)

I would've voted "U Don't Know"

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 July 2013 03:11 (twelve years ago)

come on the track like duh duh duhduh

thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Monday, 8 July 2013 03:26 (twelve years ago)

ether is classic material... takeover sounds like will.i.am rap

-- and what, Thursday, 23 August 2007 20:31 (7 months ago) Link

wait this is actually another one of the legends/myths believed by nas stans, right?

― Alex in Baltimore, Saturday, 19 April 2008 05:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

dylannn, Monday, 8 July 2013 05:10 (twelve years ago)

never was a huge fan of "takeover" either, though (i'd guess like dylan) i was kind of a big nas stan at the time they were really beefing. even now that i think jay's had the better career (probably the goat for me) i still think ether's the better song

k3vin k., Monday, 8 July 2013 05:54 (twelve years ago)

depending what day you ask me, I might say "Takeover"'s the best rap song of the 2000s

lady steendriver (The Reverend), Monday, 8 July 2013 06:06 (twelve years ago)

honestly a claim like that fills me with boiling rage 10 years after the fact.

dylannn, Monday, 8 July 2013 06:44 (twelve years ago)

gotta
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project chick

― k3vin k., Monday, December 17, 2012 11:51 PM (6 months ago)

remember when jay made rapping seem like fun?

k3vin k., Monday, 8 July 2013 09:54 (twelve years ago)

least convincing song ever recorded on the topic of girls

dylannn, Monday, 8 July 2013 10:01 (twelve years ago)

>:[ in what way? GGG is like top 5 jay songs for me

k3vin k., Monday, 8 July 2013 10:04 (twelve years ago)

1. jay just pulls off his paranoia about females and lowkey misogyny so much better. even on "song cry" i'm sort of feeling the part about "used to tell their friends i was ugly and wouldn't touch me / then I showed up in that dubbed out buggy...."
2. it doesn't work as a song in praise of women because jay is so disconnected and uninterested in anything but rice and racial stereotypes.
3. it's not sexy, either.
4. he never even talks about fucking these girls. what's he doing with them?
5. "what tribe you with, red dot or feather?" etc.
6. always liked the "trying girls out" kanye beat on the bonus better. throwing it away on a consequence deep album cut would have been preferable to squandering it on a hidden track.

dylannn, Monday, 8 July 2013 10:26 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY6JklZNndA

dylannn, Monday, 8 July 2013 10:27 (twelve years ago)

The "trying girls out" beat is maybe my favourite capital letters Kanye Beat.

Tim F, Monday, 8 July 2013 10:32 (twelve years ago)

yeahhh the bonus track is incredible

i don't disagree that there are some...problems with jay's perspective on his relationships with these women, but i am human and revel in my contradictions. there's just so much joy there

k3vin k., Monday, 8 July 2013 10:50 (twelve years ago)

"girls girls girls" is just a silly-ass song with a great chorus and some funny asshole punchlines, i wouldn't really look to it as an example of jay's thoughts 'on the topic of women' beyond just hey look what a dick he was before he settled down

some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 10:54 (twelve years ago)

sorry, i'm too hung up on authenticity. jay on girls is like jadakiss still talking about selling heroin.

dylannn, Monday, 8 July 2013 10:59 (twelve years ago)

>:[ in what way? GGG is like top 5 jay songs for me

and def my second favorite track

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 11:03 (twelve years ago)

GGGs always just seemed so dumb to me.

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 July 2013 11:11 (twelve years ago)

jadakiss is an inveterate liar, he never had a car the color of aioli, sourdough bread or turkey bacon

some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 11:14 (twelve years ago)

said last night that "Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love)" a better NYC anthem than "Empire State of Mind" and the guys looked at me like I'd said "Blue Magic" was J's best.

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, July 7, 2013 9:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the most baffling comment beneath my MCHG piece was someone saying they couldn't take my opinion seriously after i'd written that "heart of the city" is my favourite jay-z song. wtf is wrong with it? people will rep for post-2004 jay-z over it? ugh.

lex pretend, Monday, 8 July 2013 11:16 (twelve years ago)

yeah that's a pretty respectable favorite

some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 11:16 (twelve years ago)

from, like, any angle

some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 11:16 (twelve years ago)

someone said in the Yeezus thread that there exists a divide between early and late nineties Kanye; it's the same concept for J, only the marker is 2004.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 11:17 (twelve years ago)

yes but that's completely insane

lex pretend, Monday, 8 July 2013 11:21 (twelve years ago)

Age + sentimentality about moments of clarity, I guess

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 11:25 (twelve years ago)

Heart of the city ,easily my fav jay tune too.

So: The Answers (or something), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:20 (twelve years ago)

I just overheard a guy who said that MCHG was better than Vol 1 AND Vol 3 today.

Threw out my back throwing him off a freeway obv

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:49 (twelve years ago)

but yeah I like The Black Album at all but ain't no comparison between it and the first six albums.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:50 (twelve years ago)

I just overheard a guy who said that MCHG was better than Vol 1 AND Vol 3 today.

screamed a little

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 03:15 (twelve years ago)

Gotta learn to live with regrets

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 11:11 (twelve years ago)

Heart of the city ,easily my fav jay tune too.

― So: The Answers (or something)

Same here.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 12:09 (twelve years ago)

the most baffling comment beneath my MCHG piece was someone saying they couldn't take my opinion seriously after i'd written that "heart of the city" is my favourite jay-z song. wtf is wrong with it? people will rep for post-2004 jay-z over it? ugh.

― lex pretend, Monday, July 8, 2013 4:16 AM Bookmark

such a weird objection

lady steendriver (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:41 (twelve years ago)

I wouldn't get too worked up over it (not that you are!). It appears someone blew a dog whistle summoning the Jay-Z Challops Pride Parade to the comments section of every review of MCHG posted.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)

hell someone even went as far as saying Vol 1 is the worst Jay-Z. Christ!

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)

for some reason that album's rep has never completely recovered from when it dropped and was jay's supposed wack sellout move. completely laughable opinion, still.

lady steendriver (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)

ha, that reminds me that "Who You Wit" is the first Jay-z song I heard

lady steendriver (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:52 (twelve years ago)

I thought Vol 1 was Jay's first album til about when Blueprint dropped

lady steendriver (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:52 (twelve years ago)


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