BUT FIRST, IT'S THE GENESIS EPICS POLL

Oh dear, this list will upset some people.

battle of epping forest

I am so grand a square: it was between Domino, Tonight x3 or Mama.

I listened to "Supper's Ready" two days ago. Still like it a fair bit, actually--first 3 or 4 sections are the prettiest Gabriel music I've ever heard. Not as inspired a title as "Return of the Giant Hogweed," mind you, but a far better song, I think.

Oh fuck IN THE CAGE is my favorite...why did I choose Domino?

unquiet slumbers etc./quiet earth/afterglow is pretty damned magical

Agreed, I love that album. It even sounds cold and windy.

anybody else think Return of the Giant Hogweed would work well as a metal song (and in fact I think someone already did it)?

I think I'll have to listen to a few songs again before I decide. But The Colony of Slippermen will probably be more honorable mention.

Strangely, I didn't start this poll. :)

Anyway, it's gotta be "Supper's Ready"

Fountain of Salmacis. "Seven Stones" would have been a better choice though.

Dukes Travels!

Oh no, now I have to listen to Genesis. Look what you've made me do Adam.

It's gotta be The Musical Box.

"Battle of Epping Forest" can FUCK. OFF.

Also, "Stagnation" is 7 seconds shorter than "The Knife" and at least 7 times better :(

I think I might have to vote "Musical Box", it's kinda perfect, and it still gives me the heebie-jeebies.

def epping. in the cage a close second.

Oh fuck IN THE CAGE is my favorite...why did I choose Domino?

BECAUSE DOMINO IS FUCKING INCREDIBLE

Geeze --

Suuper's Ready for sure.

But you have the love the keyboard middle section of The Cinema Show.

And Blood on the Rooftops may be one of the prettiest Genesis epics.

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Duke's Travels, for something different. That one totally rocks.

CUZ THERE'S NOTHIN YOU CAN DO TIL YER NEXT IN LI-I-I-I-NE.

difficult pick, either musical box or cinema show. supper's ready seems so obvious I refuse to vote for it. also, yeah, blood on the rooftops is really good but I'm not going to vote for that either.

Firth of Fifth

"In The Cage", specifically that '80s live version that incorporated bits of "Slippermen" and "Cinema Show" and whatnot. But with occasional exceptions, I've never been able to concentrate on this band's epics for more than 5-6 minutes at a time.

I only have 'Selling England By The Pound'. I'm still gonna vote, mind. 'Firth of Fifth' is too good to overlook.

"Dodo/Lurker" deserves a few maverick votes. :)

In all seriousness, were it included on here, I truly would have voted for "Stagnation" off of Trespass. That's always been closest to my heart.

There's a lot, really. I mean, I just had to vote "Supper's Ready" as that is the single best piece of music ever made regardless of time or genre. But there are so many strong ones: "Firth Of Fifth", "Dancing With The Moonlight Knight", "The Musical Box", "The Lamia", "Mad Man Moon", "One For The Vine", "Ripples", "Return Of The Giant Hogweed". The list is sort of endless. But "Supper's Ready" it is.

mini-poll: supper's ready: 'foxtrot' or 'seconds out' version?

Sorry Joe.

"Battle of Epping Forest" can FUCK. OFF.

I cannot get past that "piiiiiic-nic" bit. Horrible horrible horrible.

ive never been into it.

I think Supper's Ready is overrated. Just because it's 23 minutes long with loads of named sections doesn't mean it's good! That'd make Dream Theater good too. What the hell is Driving the Last Spike?

Yeah, it's a fine line between epic and ramming loads of stuff together.

"The Musical Box" for me. I just pulled out the first 'Live' lp this past Sunday. The version on there is good, but it isn't as good as *this*:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W35wtfcByIY

Driving the Last Spike is a ten-minute number about railroad workers or something from We Can't Dance, the last Collins album.

I voted for Cinema Show which feels, uh, "deepest" to me. I don't really care whether the lyrics are pretentious or not, I just like the way the music resolves with "there is in fact more earth than sea," suggesting some kind of lazy late-afternoon rightness with the world in the ensuing solo (the playing isn't lazy, but the feeling is). It's reassuring.

Serious love for "Blood On The Rooftops" . Especially that gorgeous Mellotron - soaked chorus and Collins' singing on this.

"Blood On The Rooftops" doesn't feel like an epic to me. Surely it's long, and it's a beautiful ballad. But besides that wonderful Medieval-sounding guitar intro, it doesn't have different "sections" like a true prog epic should. It stays in the same style all the time, without the neccessary changes in tempo, beat or whatever.

It's a great song, surely, but no epic.

Dude. It's in the poll. yeesh.

None of the Lamb songs feel epic.

"The Colony Of Sippermen" has all the typical elements of a Genesis epic.

"Return of the Giant Hogweed", awesome. I remember how astonished I was when I discovered that the Hogweed menace is real.

Shouldn't "Twilight Alehouse" also be on this list?

I wouldn't necessarily vote for it but it has all Geir's typical elements of a Genesis epic.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

i duno. alot of suppers ready doesnt really work.

Missed this poll. Would've voted "The Musical Box". Stormy's YouTube link is gorgeous.

Not the link itself, obv, but what it links to...

Ha ha, I'm having a really fucking weird day.

Justice has been served. Too bad Lostandfound missed it though, he would have prevented the mess that is "Domino" at number two.

eeeewwww too much nu-genesis in the top few for mine.

never got the "supper's ready" love

Probably because you never got symphonic rock in general then.

it is just a mash of music, though.

I mean I voted for it because it is grebt but it's still really just a load of songs whacked together with Gabriel's assurance that it all makes sense IN HIS HEAD.

you wound me, geir

if someone gets symphonic rock then that means someone has to like every symphonic rock song? is there a point in even arguing this?

I voted Supper's Ready but nearly went for The Return of the Giant Hogweed

Geir sounded a bit defensive in that last retort. Cheer up Geir, your song won!

never got the "supper's ready" love

-- kamerad, Tuesday, December 4, 2007 4:01 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

same here -- i could say the same for gabriel-era genesis in toto, though.

gabriel-era Genesis ruled.

Collins-fronted Genesis was good for a little while (I liked Trick of the Tail, and from the pop era, liked Abacab, but "I Can't Dance", "Invisible Touch" vomit)

Genesis was in Toto? omg

"Selling Rosanna by the Pound"

"I felt the rains down in Epping Forest"

Well Gabriel wz fucking Rosanna Arquette, so theres something of a link ;P

guess he met her "all the way"....

apparently Toto had this vocalist named Jean-Marcel Byron in 1990 for all of less than a year before they fired him.

(random trivia nobody cares about and that is irrelevant)

AND HE WAS SOUTH AFRICAN!

WELL I NEVER HAVE SEEN SUCH A TERRIBLE THING
AS I SAW LAST NIGHT ON THE TV
MAYBE IF WE'RE LUCKY THEY WILL SHOW IT AGAIN
WHAT A TERRIBLE THING TO SEE-HEE

apparently Toto had this vocalist named Jean-Marcel Byron in 1990 for all of less than a year before they fired him.

Clearly he was not taking the time to do the things Toto never ever do

Steve Lukather quote--"So we do all this rehearsal and we go on tour, the first fucking gig and we see the guy putting on his fucking clothes. A little sheriff's badge on, he puts one golf glove on. We're thinking, man that's fucking funny, that's great, man that's a great joke. Hey says, “What are you talking about?” I go, “You're not going to go out there with a fucking glove, that's Michael Jackson's shit.” He said, “No it's not, it's my stuff.” I'm going, you've got to be fucking kidding me. We get on stage and we start the first tune, Love has the power and he starts dancing around like fucking Richard Simmons on acid. Some fucking fruity shit going on man. And the crowd is like looking at me and going, something's up. They're looking at him and flipping him the bird telling him to get off the stage. And I'm looking at Jeff Porcaro and he's looking at me going, what the fuck is that? I mean is was unbelievable…He thought he'd come to save the day. Like Christ had come down and blessed us. We get off the gig and we're like, what the fuck is that? We're nuts, we're psycho. You can't do that. He goes, “I'm going to make you all very famous.” He thought he was the shit, he was hysterical. And I was single, newly single at the time after my first divorce and I was out there for the chicks and every time I got with a chick, he'd try to get with her."

Bobby Kimball wouldn't do that shit

Another Rosanna/Toto link: In Scorsese's "After Hours", Arquette's character was once married to a guy with a "Wizard of Oz" fixation (always screamed "SURRENDER DOROTHY!" when he came.)

THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO WHEN YOU'RE NEXT IN LINE
YOU GOTTA GO DOMINO

"Domino"'s victory warms my heart – that and listening to "In the Glow of the Night" fading into the programmed drum thuds of "Domino" as I type.

"programmed drum beats"

I think you just nailed what bothers me about post-Hackett Genesis.

"Domino" probaby would have sounded great had it been recorded in 1976, featured Steve Hackett's guitars, no drum machines, and lots of analog synths and mellotrons.

(At least I think it's devoid of Yamaha CP, which is something....)

So, if you replaced everything about it that makes it awesome with something else, it would have been awesome?