BOTTOM 100 Prince Moments

9,000,003: Tony M's career

hahahaha "career"

hahaha yeah

But we know who he is, and that's unfortunate enough, right?

hahaha dude NO ONE except Prince wonks knows who Tony M is

I meant "we", literally.

9,000,004: Selling tickets to a series of "official Prince aftershow parties" right through the run of 2007 London dates, at £25 a pop - then not turning up to half of them, leaving hundreds of people standing round listening to a DJ until 3:30 in the morning on the off-chance that he might deign to grace them with his presence. Only issuing an official disclaimer several weeks after the tickets have been on sale.

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9,000,0002: Sequencing Lovesexy as one track.

9,000,0001: suing people for having his music in the background of youtube videos

9,000,008: sitting on a ton of great archival material and, instead, releasing tepid wax museum albums that, for whatever reason, are heralded as a return to form.

Though "Chelsea Rodgers" isn't that bad.

8,345,393: "Dinner with Delores"

I can't believe it: I was gonna create this thread last night! With this Wendy Melvoin anecdote as #1:

I haven't talked to him since the Revolution reunion tour we tried to put together in 2000, and he declined doing it because of me and my homosexuality and I'm half Jewish. It came back: ‘Go have a press conference denouncing your homosexuality and that you're converting to Jehovah.' I was like: ‘I guess we'll never hear from him again.'

She says they later kissed and made up, and he was really sweet. But still: chrissakes, man, wtf?

8,246,789: Did anybody mention "Sexy MF" yet?

8,105,432 -- ...still trying to find *just* the right Rainbow Children lyric.

9,000,012: that intrusively bludgeoning lazy-ass generic Paisley Park *THWOCK* that he plastered all over lesser album cuts by minor proteges as a substitute for creating an interesting rhythm track.

Suing some media journal for using his logo in an article/review or something...a logo HE supplied them.

I love Sexy MF

Me too!

SEXY MOTHERFUCKER SHAKIN THAT ASS! SHAKIN THAT ASS SHAKIN THAT ASS!

The Gold Experience album is half "yay" half "meh"

The great thing about Lovesexy is that I've found it on some digital jukeboxes in bars. One quarter = THE WHOLE ALBUM!

^ takes notes

Whoa, steady on! 'Sexy MF' and 'Dinner With Delores' are both great... I love how wonderfully simple 'Dinner With Delores' is... remember it actually getting quite a great deal of airplay back in '96, too.

I remember three things about Chaos & Disorder: 1) I bought it based on an (over?)hyped review by Charles Shaar Murray in Mojo; 2) selling my copy two years later while preparing for a cross-country move; 3) "Dinner with Dolores."

I haven't listened to either Lovesexy or Chaos in 20 years, but I remember much more of the latter than the former, and "Dolores" is the reason why.

Tarfumes my god how can you not remember the preposterous drumming on "dance on"????

haha, I don't know...a replacement copy of C&D is on its way to me, though, so that'll refresh my memory.

It's on lovesexy man

oh, whoops...well, I'll probably dig into that one again soon, too. But tbh, The Black Album is my go-to late-'80s Prince record, overwhelming Lovesexy.

Really? Every time I've heard The Black Album I've always been left feeling that Prince was right to pull it from release. Some of it, particularly the back half, strikes me as a bit below par. I know that there's been this or that said about the reason it got pulled, but I honestly think Prince replaced it with a superior record!

Me too

Side 1 of the black album is great but side 2 sucks.

I suppose it's possible that the rumors surrounding it gave it an elevated mystique, but my nth-generation cassette dub of an off-speed midrangy vinyl bootleg in 1988 fulfilled every fantastical notion one had about The Black Album.

And considering "Bob George" and "Rockhard In A Funky Place" are side 2, "side 2 sucks" does not compute.

I think it has its moments - of course it does, it's Prince! - but I definitely think if he'd put it out at that time it would have been considered more of a flop than some perceive Lovesexy as being.

I'm beginning to think the real reason it got pulled is that Prince and WB didn't think it was up to his usual standard.

I have the Lovesexy tour programme from that tour, read through the prince-speak and its all there, why.

The gig itself did some black album tracks too. The "Bob George" section was something to see...

I'm beginning to think the real reason it got pulled is that Prince and WB didn't think it was up to his usual standard.

I doubt WB would voluntarily cancel a release -- and eat a couple hundred thousand copies -- a week prior just because they thought, "Jeez, Prince, you can do better." I wouldn't discount Prince cancelling it for not being up to his standards, though (in addition to whatever dreams he had about it destroying the earth or whatever).

Lovesexy rules for "I Wish U Heaven", "Alphabet St", "Glam Slam", and "When 2 R in Love"

2rrican 2 Thread!

Sorry, 2rr-eye-can

9,000,014: making me sign up for a trial with Tidal

Yeah, WB must have been a bit annoyed at cancelling the LP at such short notice, of that eye have very little doubt. However, they must have agreed with Prince 2 some degree, else surely they could have gone ahead with the release anyhow? Obviously the decision 2 cancel The Black Album was mostly down 2 Prince, but eye have a feeling if WB were that confident in the record they could have said "fuck u, Prince, we're releasing it anyway?"

After all, this was the follow-up 2 quite a big record. Eye think Prince may have thought he could do better.

9,000,013 Converting to Jehova's Witness.

Yeah, WB must have been a bit annoyed at cancelling the LP at such short notice, of that eye have very little doubt. However, they must have agreed with Prince 2 some degree, else surely they could have gone ahead with the release anyhow? Obviously the decision 2 cancel The Black Album was mostly down 2 Prince, but eye have a feeling if WB were that confident in the record they could have said "fuck u, Prince, we're releasing it anyway?"

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interview with Mo Ostin:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7341821/warner-bros-ceo-mo-ostin-prince

Things didn’t go quite as smoothly with [1987's] The Black Album, which Prince abruptly recalled just days before it was released.

What happened was, we had a marketing campaign in connection with the Sign O’ the Times record release, and then there would be a whole new marketing campaign connected with the [release of the Sign O’ the Times concert film, later in 1987]. But while we were [promoting] the record, he went to a bunch of discos -- he would always do that -- and he wouldn’t hear his records being played, and he was very upset. So he decided he wanted to make a record that was [more dancefloor-friendly], and he made The Black Album. He insisted that we release it at the same time we were working Sign O’ the Times, and it would have disrupted our entire marketing plan. We tried to talk him out of it: “You can't put a record out to interfere with the existing record.” But he insisted, and we again went along with him.

But then, he had a change of heart. After we had manufactured records all over the world for the release, he called us and said he wanted to hold off and wait until we completed our campaign. We told him we had spent a lot of money getting this thing ready for market, and he said “Look, I want you to take all those albums and destroy them and I'll pay for whatever cost you guys incurred in manufacturing.” And he actually paid us out of his royalties.

...

Any others?

Well, there was a situation with The Black Album. Time Inc. and Warner had merged, and we were at a sort of [corporate] bonding conference with Time magazine in Jamaica, I think it was. And there were lots of people there and Lenny was in a conversation with a guy who was a very important writer and editor for Time magazine called Dick Stolley -- he was the guy who actually [acquired and released] the tapes of the Kennedy assassination; I think he also came up with the idea of People magazine. Somehow The Black Album came up -- and Stolley of course became very interested and asked if we would send him a copy. Well, Prince had asked us to destroy them so we said no. But he said "Please send me the album, I’ll keep it under wraps," all kinds of things. Finally, I said, "Well, we can trust Stolley, he's a guy who has an incredible reputation and a lot of integrity. Let's let him have it."

We still had some records in our warehouses -- we had destroyed most of them but we kept some, just to have them, and we agreed to send Stolley a copy. Not long after that, Prince showed up at our office with Kim Basinger. He had just finished [the] Batman [soundtrack] and had made a disco recording with her that ran about 20 minutes [“The Scandalous Sex Suite”] and he wanted to play it for us. We were in Lenny's office and as he was playing the record, Prince got up from where he was sitting, went up to Lenny's desk -- and there on his desk was the copy of The Black Album that we were going to send to Stolley. He looked at it, picked it up, put it back on the desk and made no comment. I came up with whatever excuse I could make, I told him that this was somebody we could trust and might be valuable in getting exposure for Prince, maybe a cover of Time magazine, who knows? It turned out to be less of an issue than we thought it might, but our hearts dropped when we saw him pick up that album.

9,000,012: Lovesexy's album cover

Oh, wow, brain suddenly shot me this memory. Saw Prince here at the Riviera in maybe ... 2000? Around then, I think. He was still cursing, still doing his blue (purple) material. He played guitar, drums, bass (lead bass on "Kiss!"), played hits, had people onstage dancing. All around awesome. Except for that tour/date, new age sax player Najee was in his band, and he sucked like Kenny G. So every once in a while Prince would just turn and shout "Najee!" and Najee would play some lame-ass new age noodle. The worst of it was when, iirc, Prince played "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man," except instead of the guitar solo, it was new age Najee. That sucked.

(I'm sure I've told this story before ...)

You saw him at the Riviera?! Holy crap. That must've been a crazy scene.

Kicking myself for missing him many times...he played FIVE nights at the Rosemont Horizon (now Allstate Arena) in '84, and three nights there in '88, and I somehow kept thinking, "Eh, I'll catch him next time."

9,000,011: dying

Eye should hope the manufacturing costs 'o' those copies 'o' The Black Album didn't come out 'o' Prince's royalties. Eye could understand Prince being fucked off about that, making an arrangement 4 all copies 2 be destroyed, and offering 2 pay 2 cover costs, only 2 find WB hadn't only not destroyed all the copies, but were actually putting some out there in some way. Having said that, u can c WB's side 'o' things... the thing with The Black Album probably contributed heavily 2 WB's attitude towards Prince wanting 2 release multiple records in a short period 'o' time. Releasing 2 much music is one thing, but the artist undermining his own marketing campaigns and forcing the record company 2 press up and recall records on a whim r another. Record companies tend 2 want 2 get the most profit out 'o' a release be4 putting out another, especially if a big artist is involved. Prince seemed 2 be costing WB a lot 'o' money in the late '80s/early '90s.

this all reminds me, how many facts have heard all of the albums prince produced for the NPG label? like the bria valente album? the mayte album? a graham central station reunion? are any of these things listenable?

I've heard almost all of his officially released output barring the last few albums I didn't bother with and even I can't bring myself to listen to the NPG acts

heh heh bottom

muthas shoulda bought Lovesexy on vinyl IN THE DAY