wiley - i'm going out

whyy wasn't this on his disappointng album? ('hadn't made it yet' is an acceptable answer)

"wiley is a one innit." - big dada press release

goddddd cannot stop listening to this

grime mp3 2k7 folder fi get delete, seriously

ok so this isn't on any of wiley's mixtapes past or forthcoming (avalanche umbrella vol 1 looks rubbish btw)

in addition this was broadcast 5 days ago (i don't check for grime too tuff anymore) and i see not one word on dissensus, rwd, blogs and so on

conclusion: trust no one

unless it's mysteriously old, in which case where has it been all my life

er...the link's dead

Awesome track. Can I assume from the title it's a Target production?

it is from his (brill) 1xtra show but yeah sounds target to me

i wonder if targ's stock isnt so low (or anachronistic at least) these days that playing his own tracks on his own show is as good as it gets. you can sort of imagine the brash sighs when he ambles into the studio with his panpipes and chimes and funky house 80snesses

see it always looks like i'm being really mean to target!! but it's more like, i dunno, a classroom kinda situation where target is one of those quite sensitive types all writing poems in his notebook and shyly trying to get a point across when all of a sudden a lairy danny weed type character blurts something disruptive out but you laugh despite yourself. YKNOW?

then students like young dot, nocturnal and maniac come along and you give up and go teach in a girls private school

It's definitely got his pedantic touch to the handclaps.

Surely Danny Weed is the lairy thug who is weirdly protective though?

One thing I could really see take off is really colourful 4X4 grime, which this sorta fits - sort of like a new take on soca-house.

yeah that does seem like something that's been mulled over for a while somehow - i say somehow cos there's no actual tentative evidence springing to mind obv. trouble is the negotiating its own subtle identity bit, it either coming out as a wan retro revival (skepta duppy) or, if it goes too far out of bounds, getting railed against (funky house dig in goodz 'keep up' - yeah yeah, har har but don't mention it sounding pretty good eh.)

this is a good start.

I do very much like DJ Q & MC Bones' "You What You What", but that's more like MC-bassline I guess.

i guess the easiest way to do it is disguising the 4x4 until the chorus hits like in this one, everyone likes that trick. bit like that recent twista juke song blindsiding ppl.

yeah I agree that that trick works really well (I guess "Watch My Feet" sorta does this) - but what's the Twista song called?

pimp like me, pimp like me, work the bitch

admirable how long it holds its nerve

heh i also like the um, representation of juke as some annoying noisy neigbours

you hate next door's party on principle but secretly you kinda wanna be there

That's great!

it really is!

seemed like a load of bullshit when it was just an mp3

Yeah I don't know what I'd think of it without the video clip to make it all make sense.

BTW on 4X4 grime, I really liked the 4X4 track on the Tinchy Strider album ("Dance 4 Now"), in fact that whole album has become one of my favourites of the year.

oh yeahhh 4real i forgot about that one! i have probly been harsh to that album, will listen again.

You should, i dismissed it at first as competent, left it alone for a month, went back and WOW.

love this too. i think i heard it on cameo's show a few weeks ago. while looking for some info on it, only thing that i found was that logan sama played it once in august (and never again after that, it seems).

not 4x4, but that mercston/ghetto - 'good old days' ties in with this too maybe?

This is goooooood, damn.

good work dbs! so the other mc is called messy, havent heard of him b4.

'good old days' can work too yeah but, similar to 'dance 4 now', maybe just an angry drab 4/4 stomp doesnt quite do justice to the things this tune is offering a glimpse of, the whole gulping down a kaleidoscope of colour aspect

skepta had a tune ages ago (i guess he never did anything with it) that was a lovely hyperspeed refix of cherelle's 'saturday love'. i can barely remember it really (might not even have been 4x4) but it too seems relevant. 'work days', it was called.

it is so great how this beat turns the song's minor tiff right outward onto some higher level, like the whole chasey chasey merry-go-round of relationships. it implies a happy ending, as if the sun were to come up on the argument the next morning and give you a big old wink

i think i have that skepta tune, ripped it off his myspace.

agree that this is a more exciting direction, 'dance 4 now' and 'good old days' are both kinda dour (not that i don't like them).

here:

skepta - work days

niiiiice, thanks! relief to hear that it does actually fit into a kind of socabeat idea, i thought i was blagging it heh

r u new around here dude? what else are you feeling (if anything), i am a bit behind the grimey times of late

So relaxed (for the first couple of mins) in comparison to a couple of other things I've heard by him this year.

Damn!

wiley song is alright i suppose... i think people are being too harsh on the album. if you get rid of the crap songs, theres an excellent 9 track album there. best grime album of the year, forget skeptas greatest hits. blackdown should have at least mentioned wileys album on this 2007 grime round up. if crappy kano can get a mention so can wiley.

glad that trim's 'soulfood vol 1' has been getting some props though.

I like parts of Soulfood but I find it a bit of a slog to get through. I want sleek, professional Trim/Scratchy tracks with good production, something that Soulfood sorely lacks.

I think what really distinguishes Star in the Hood is that it actually sounds like an album you could imagine a major label releasing, not in terms of its sell-out or crossover qualities (which all the mixtapes ape inexpertly anyway) but because of its focus and sheen.

haven't heard 'star in the hood' so will check it out. soulfood is overlong but i like trim's full bodied delivery.

what's the consensus on the durrty goodz ep (axiom)? i loved his track on the first run the road comp (with the 100mph rhythm).

there was a bit of trim talk on this thread.

also a bit of goodz talk on the tinchy album thread which i am about to REVIVE. the greater consensus about axiom is that it's the best thing since sliced dizzee, but i say meh personally.

titch is probably right about wiley's album, but it's still a letdown considering. after the hot media glare's gone he's left treddin on water, arf

(surely i am not the first to make that pisspoor joke?)

Count me in with the consensus on the Goodz album. Is the Skepta record any cop then?

doogz' ep is technically very good but i dont really find myself returning to it much. skeptas is well executed but a bit dry. seems a bit over laboured. and not enough grimey beats.

"I like parts of Soulfood but I find it a bit of a slog to get through. I want sleek, professional Trim/Scratchy tracks with good production, something that Soulfood sorely lacks."

agreed. i dont mind the sketch like form of the songs - definitely prefer it to hearing grime mcs using standard song formats (16 bars-hook-16 bars-hook etc). but yeah, i wish he had some better beats. or beats that were just a bit deeper that might bring out what he does more. hes doing a pa with hatcha tonight in brighton apparently, gutted im not going, but i reckon it would be a really interesting pair up.

everytime i see that title i just think of 'im going out blastin'... taking my enemies with me'.

it's on the Grime Wave album, supposedly out a week on Monday:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grime-Wave-Wiley/dp/B001713CNI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1209753673&sr=8-2

so 'Badman Talking' finally turns up on this, a year after th '50 50' video ended with an extract of it.

It sounds like one of the best things on Grime Wave too, altho maybe the vocals are kinda boring (love the deep tone tho).

'I'm Going Out' sounds like the highlight tho (but only halfway thru first listen so should shut up)

Wiley admitted in an interview he only put 60% or so into 'Playtime Is Over' (and interestingly claimed he'd rather be making Jungle again as that's when hew as happiest) but on 'Where You Gonna Run To' claims it's 100%. Hmm.

Not putting Wearing My Rolex on there = madness. It's almost like he doesn't want to sell any records.

he seems to be really anal in interviews adamant that 'wearing my rolex ain't grime and this is a grime album'. also not keen on Bline tcha.

'Badman Talking' isn't grimey either tho and surely should've been on 'Playtime Is Over'. 'Grimewave' LP isn't big on basslines at all tho and is pretty much mostly just the same major faux-grandiose loop+decent intricate beats+vocals at grime speed as much of his other stuff.

never heard 'Music Money' before but this should've been on Grime Wave LP just for being a better loop than half the stuff on there

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YUNdtsJpSkY

lol http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3X3CmQnZVtI

wtf is this beef with bashy about?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SLm9iWZzpgc

omg 'where's my brother?'

v reassuring after the crappy hackjob of 'summertime'. the brother in qn is grime itself, yeah?

~ahem~

fwiw this might be the best wiley vocal i've heard, like, ever

It's a great tune and Not About Dizzee No Way No How.

"soldieeerrrrr"!

summertime video

still love this but don't understand why it's being released in October. will be surprised if it charts despite Rolex success.