Why, yes, I believe I would like a Thurston Moore/Byron Coley book about No Wave, thanks much

Get Marc's book in the meantime!

http://www.amazon.com/No-Wave-Marc-Masters/dp/190615502X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197436299&sr=1-1

That looks great too, but also not available until next year. Must have no wave in book form ASAP.

don't forget Soul Jazz's book of Paula Court's photography and the Punk 365 photo book which has a few great no wave photos.

I've got the Marc Masters book. I'm about two-thirds of the way through. Pretty good, probably best for (and aimed at) people like myself who have a lot of interest in the scene without necessarily that much grounding or many of the records

Oh phwoar! I think I just came. :-) I'll def order it. Not that much into No Wave anymore, but I definitely want to read about it. :-)

Oh phwoar! I think I just came. :-)

To quote an old Coley review: "There can be no higher praise."

There was this, but it wasn't entirely satisfying....

http://www.amazon.com/Between-Montmartre-Mudd-Club-Avant-Garde/dp/0226287351/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197483151&sr=8-1

But re: Thurston's book: Me Wanty!!!!

That said, I wish it went a bit further than 1980 -- how about ruminating on some of the band birthed by No Wave (ala Sonic Youth, of course -- and Swans, Rat At Rat R, Pussy Galore, BlackSnakes, Cop Shoot Cop etc.)

That'd be good too, but I also like the idea that ending before the Sonic Youth era makes this entirely a tribute to those who came before. I've always thought SY have a romantic vision of themselves as part of a continuum of avant-garde artists - a kind of counterintuitive notion that they make succeed with loving hat tips to the beats, modern classical, everyone in the Teenage Riot video, etc. So ending in 1980 works on that level. Anyway Thuston's told his own story before, and I wonder if he's too invested in his own position in the post-1980 scene to make a good story out of his take on everyone else at the time. But yeah, there would be room on the shelf for a sequel.

Good point, actually.

Thanks. But to clarify a follow-up would definitely be welcome, by Moore/Coley or otherwise. (Alex in NYC -- why don't you write it?) Anyway, let's not lose sight of the most important point, on which I believe we agree: ME WANTY!

Ha. I actually spoke to a literary agent about the very idea (NYC music scene post-No Wave), and his response was this:

"Why don't you write a book about R.E.M.?"

Suffice to say, lunch ended soon afterwards.

Are REM goth?

Credit where due, the guy stumbled onto one of the greatest putdowns of the early 21st century: "If you're so smart why don't you write a book about R.E.M.?" Did you give him a quick Moe Howard poke in the eye?

I let him pay for lunch.

oooh i was looking at that marc masters book today at browsers books, looked fuckin g awesome

in the meantime does anybody have an electronic version of that collage photo of lee ranaldo, glenn branca and two other guitarists (sublette and rosenbloom?), it's on a black background, they're each striking the exact same pose, the field is divided into quadrants with each guitarist in one quadrant, and their name next to their photo?

anybody know the one i'm talking about? gotta jpg?

i have now browsed all three no wave books.

1)the big NY noise coffee table

2)marc masters

3)coley/moore.

overall #3 looked best, great photos and chronology/quotes tho some of the type was so small and i didn't have my reading glasses at the store. and hey, i was just trying to remember the name of that all-night no wave diner on canal and here's the neon sign -- DAVE'S LUNCHEONETTE.
cool.

#2 looked pretty solid research-wise, more text-oriented than the other two so I'd have to sit down and give it a serious read to really judge.

#1 is superslick/superbad, tons and tons of photos of the usual suspects and all kinds of other folks some I knew, some sorta half-knew by sight. but it seemed a little kitchen-sinky after awhile, creeping up into the mid 80s which I submit was a separate scene from no wave/noise and worthy of its own documentation. are there books about east village art scene?

by #1 you mean the orange one by soul jazz? looked at it yesterday too, thought it was lacking substance a bit. too many photos w/ no context.

I didn't give a flying (expletive) if the Bowery smelled like dog (expletive).

Excerpt.

Slideshow.

So who just submitted the link to Boing Boing? It just showed up on the feed!
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/310607544/no-wave-postpunk-und.html

Those are different pictures on Boing Boing. Collect 'em all!

Just picked this up and it does look wonderful. So many beautiful pictures from an under documented scene. The text is an oral history which does work well. I especially like how the principle actors often contradict or reinforce each other.

i bought this a couple weeks ago, have yet to look through it though. maybe tonite.

in the meantime does anybody have an electronic version of that collage photo of lee ranaldo, glenn branca and two other guitarists (sublette and rosenbloom?), it's on a black background, they're each striking the exact same pose, the field is divided into quadrants with each guitarist in one quadrant, and their name next to their photo?
anybody know the one i'm talking about? gotta jpg?
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the back of branca's ascension looks kinda like this w/o the quadrants. all the dudes in a row. i'll take a pic and upload soon

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2246/brancaob9.jpg

maybe the cd reissue has it in quadrants?

no, i have the CD reissue but it's not in there.

this one was definitely in quadrants.

maybe someone w/ the no wave book knows what i'm talking about

are they the same photos?

no, but they look like photos from the same session. they are all on black backgrounds. but IIRC (and i might not, it was two months ago, i was in that little bookstore next to fillmore peet's, taking cover and still reeling from the deeply offensive sensory assault of the marc by marc jacobs store pacific heights) they were all striking the same pose, which was similar to ranaldo's in the photo above. and they had the same white text under their photos as on the back of that album.

i saw the book with the photo in question and they are in fact the same photos from the album cover and in the quadrants. they showed both next to each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6AjT1fXB4

that glenn branca photo reminds me of this

http://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/roxy_band0.jpg

i read this

And? It was interesting or you were bored or what?

it's pretty much essential for anyone who's really interested in No Wave. tons of pictures, knowledgeable writing iirc

the book's a nice art object too