― Tom, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Judd Nelson, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Nick Southall, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Bad: the lush string arrangements -- or the uniformity thereof -- would often cancel out or obscure the rhythmic elements that attracted me to the music in the first place
Good: Disco band members are grossly, grossly underrated musicians, what with the ability to keep to the beat so well, and seem mistakeless... that goes for bass players, drummers, and even the guitarists. I venerate them as I speak.
..aside from the "forefront of electronic dance music as we know it today" arguments.
IN MORODER WE TRUST.
― Brian MacDonald, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jordan, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― dave q, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
On the other hand, it certainly produced lots of vacuous production line crap, but that's true of every successful genre ever. It also produced the greatest costumes ever, of course.
― Martin Skidmore, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― nathalie, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Bobby D. Gray, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― original bgm, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Phil, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
** a lot of it is probably more electro -- even hip-hop (e.g. Perfect Beats comps.)
(at the risk of turning this into a S&D, any advice about where to go after Moroder, Arthur Russell, the Disco [Not Disco] and The Loft comps would be greatly appreciated!)― scott p., Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― scott p., Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Funk's always preferrable, though.
― Alex in NYC, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Disco as a chart phenomenon had the same impact as punk and New Wave in revitalising pop music during the late 70s.
Disco as an underground dance music (on labels such as Salsoul, Prelude and West End)paved the way for house and garage.
My favourite Moroder/Summer tracks (apart from "I Feel Love") are "With Your Love" and "Journey to the Centre of Your Heart". One of my favourite disco albums (which I got for 50p in a charity shop) is "the Greatest Show on Earth" by Metropolis. The record was produced for Salsoul by Tom Moulton and was recorded at the Musicland Studios in Munich. The album combines the American disco sound with all the best qualities associated with Moroder-style Eurodisco.
― Mark Dixon, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dave M., Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Keiko, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
What are the best disco compilations, or albums?
― DeRayMi, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― David, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Lately I've been hooked on Patrick Adams' work for Cloud One, Bumblebee Unlimited, Chain Reaction, etc. Also scored a Kano comp recently that has a handful of Italo-disco greats (and some shit).
Scott P.! What Nathalie said. Original Salsoul Classics is solid as well. And I don't know what I'd do without my Old School comps on Thump, though those are more '80s-based. I've been wearing those out lately.
― Andy K, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
As far as paving the way for 80s tekno/euro pop, and later modern electronic dance music, Megatone records deserves a special mention.
― geeta, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ian, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 28 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― dave q, Sunday, 28 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
And since Disco records featured mostly session musicians I think it almost inevitable that some of them must have been involved in rock as well, so not entirely true.
― David, Sunday, 28 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
yeah..rock players have no bloody sense of rhythm :)
Think about what a great thing disco was for America -- pop music that cut across every boundry imaginable (well, except the rock one) and it was made for dancing! It's almost unthinkable now that there could be a massive pop movement in the US where dance is the focus. Still happens in the rest of the world, of course, but the disco backlash was so strong I'm not sure it could happen in the States again. Dance music now is very tightly targeted, some people dance to hip-hop, some to house, some to salsa, some line dance to country -- back then it was all disco, and everybody was invited. What a beautiful thing.
― Mark, Sunday, 28 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― scott p., Sunday, 28 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― al, Sunday, 28 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I like Mark Pitchfork's idea of disco as a party to which everybody was invited, but I'm not sure its entirely the truth. I think there's also an undercurrent of social exclusiveness/upward mobility in the disco look/lifestyle - cocaine glamour, dressin' sharp, dancin' well, just generally being 'cooler' than joe average. Wasn't the disco/rock backlash partly started by nerdy white rock DJs who couldn't dance, couldn't join the beautiful ppl in Studio 54, couldn't afford the nose candy, couldn't pull off wearing the flared white suit?
And I don't even wanna get into the old disco rhythm = totalitarian drumbeat hooha.
― Andrew L, Sunday, 28 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Brian MacDonald, Sunday, 28 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jeff W, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Good, because the next person who actually *does* get into it is setting themselves up for a debilitating injury courtesy of me.
― Tim, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I been takin Vitamin E Cos all these ladies keep a'messin with me
Also Blowfly's "Disco" is one of the funniest records EVAH. Anyway, I say Rob's Records *did* sell them, he probably still does but they're buried under a montain of other records now.
― Steve.n., Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Chris, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― fritz, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― jacob, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mark, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tom, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
(I asked the question because on a lot of other music boards I see, frequented by apparently intelligent people, disco is still the perimeter fence of taste, something that can be invoked as an unequivocal Bad Thing in pop history, and the invoker can have their reading go unchallenged. I don't think it's going too far to say that a board which treats such a huge and significant genre like that can never be much good, discussion-wise. So asking this question was kind of a litmus test, following all the does-ILM-suck discussion elsewhere. And unsurprisingly ILM still doesn't suck. Well not in this particular way.)
― Dave225, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Lord Custos 2.0 beta, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
No genre has ever sold out so successfully, in a commercial and aesthetic sense - that is why it is hated.
Interesting re disco and punk -- I think of disco as the anti-punk, in that it was for everybody and was never about rebellion. For something to be punk it's got to be angry at somebody or something...disco was never angry. Never angry, never serious, wide appeal = the most anti-rock music possible.
― mark s, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"Good Times"! It's just not the political angle rock usually took. "Lost In Music" takes a stance re. work which is political in its rejectionism - "Responsibility for me is a tragedy, I'll get a job some other time" - if not as 'constructive' in its criticism as some punk. Machine's "There But For The Grace Of God" is liberal- political, too.
Disco bands could be serious - very few late-70s rock songs are as fraught as "At Last I Am Free". Try telling the tens of thousands of women who've belted it out at karaoke that "I Will Survive" is not serious and fun both at once.
Re the other point -- disco wasn't serious the way "rock" was supposed to be post-Beatles. The way serious discourse developed around rock at that point couldn't apply to disco.
I guess I don't think of punk as that different from rock -- I think of it more as a return to rock 'n roll, which was about rebellion & celebrating the generation gap. Your parents weren't supposed to get it, disco hoped that everybody would.
I agree that disco songs could be very serious in the realm of the personal; in a way disco borrowed from the early 70s singer/songwriter thing for lyric content -- it was all very 70s in its emphasis on growth, exploration of feelings, and so on. Even a song like "Stayin' Alive." I meant "serious" more in terms of "the issues of the day," political in that sense. And disco had it so much less than funk, which had a huge social element.
So what were dress codes, precisely?
You think Tony from Saturday Night Fever wasn't angry? Watch that film again, man. It is a searing commentary on urban alienation and working-class discontent.
― Ben Williams, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tracer hand, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
(Hmmm, maybe a bit impulsive of me to spinoff a whole new thread thereof, now that I think about it, but oh shit, oh well)
― Brian MacDonald, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Lord Custos, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
"Love Missile F1-11" is an aesthetic success, I'll give you that.
O_o
― I know, right?, Monday, 18 August 2008 12:51 (seventeen years ago)