GHOSTFACE - SUPREME CIENTELE POLL

that should be CLIENTELE

One

"Wu Banga 101" is killer

One seconded.

Thirded.

Ok the choice between One and Nutmeg is not that easy. How is this not tearing you people apart inside?

If I reveal the RZA's verse actually tilts me toward Nutmeg do I lose all credibility?

Apollo Kids live to spit the real!

one, obvs

Nutmeg.

I voted for One. I love Ghost but I think Supreme Clientele is a somewhat overrated album. One, Nutmeg, Apollo Kids Wu Banga 101 and We Made It are in the good to great range, but the rest is pretty forgettable, and "Stroke of Death" might be the worst beat in the history of hip-hop. Certainly a good album, but I wouldn't even put it as Ghost's best, let alone the classic some consider it.

Agreed. Ironman is still my favorite. But that's a different poll!

ablaeser OTM. I also disliked how the running order was wrong the inside sleeve.

Voted for "Apollo Kids."

nutmeg

Gah. I'm totally part of the problem, but Deej is absolutely right.

Come on, it's "Buck 50" by a fucking mile. Meth kills it:

Who I'm is? The phenom, them niggaz can't live
Who I'm is? We ain't got shit, somethin got to give
Y'all done flipped y'all wig, blacked out the crib
Die and live for my nigs and my bad-ass kids, freeze
*sniff* Lookin at your ice like GEEZ!
I'm plottin on the mousetrap, about to snatch the cheese
I heard y'all kids is bout that, psychotherapy
You buggin where the couch at? Wu, til they bury me
Never tell a lie, like George with the cherry tree
Now it's cherry pie - if it's not broke, let it be
Ain't nuttin nice in - New York
Stick you for your cake and your icing
That tough talk? Don't mean nuttin when you're up North
So keep them hands where I can see em like you want freedom
You know that saying - if you can't join 'em, beat 'em
and push your way in
We ain't acrobats but we flip on occasion
Pick the pace up, pants saggin pull your waist up
Niggaz rentin slum jewels from Jacob, FOOL!
You're like, "Dude! I don't like your fuckin attitude
Frontin on my Clan from the Stat' when we ain't mad at you"

UH HUH, UH HUH MOTHERFUCKER, YEAH, I SEE DAT, I SEE DAT

yea most of this album doesnt do much for me though :/

I agree with the people who say SC is overrated. I actually like Bulletproof Wallets more than this, it has better beats and more variety in songs - there's nothing like "The Forest" or "Flowers" on Supreme Clientele. But "Apollo Kids" is my favourite on it.

apollo kids

nutmeg

child's play

"project flow with extra stairs"

nutmeg uber alles.

Umm...this album is not overrated. At all. It's Ghostface at his lyrical and artistic peak.

Maybe, but with mediocre assembly-line Wu beats. For example, "Nutmeg" has a strong intro, but also incredibly weak sounding drums, even though the production is by RZA.

"the dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum"

The dumb are mostly intrigued by that line.

Tuomas...ever heard "All That I Got Is You" or "Hollow Bones"? RZA's beats don't always have strong sounding drums. I think the weird beat adds to the loopy lyrics. The combination gives the song an alien vibe. I sure as fuck had never heard anything like Nutmeg when I first heard it. Can't say I've heard anything like it ever since, either.

You can be such a nugget, Rev.

Meh, I'm just tired of seeing that line quoted every time anyone criticizes beats on a Wu-Tang album, even though it wasn't clever any of the previous eight-hundred times.

That and the "half short and twice strong" line.

The Reverend's zing was on point

this album is only overrated in the sense that so many people talk about wu tang like they were the only group that made rap music in the 90s.

i'm voting cherchez la ghost bcuz its a banger. not his best lyrically or anything but fire club track

I voted for One. I love Ghost but I think Supreme Clientele is a somewhat overrated album. One, Nutmeg, Apollo Kids Wu Banga 101 and We Made It are in the good to great range, but the rest is pretty forgettable, and "Stroke of Death" might be the worst beat in the history of hip-hop. Certainly a good album, but I wouldn't even put it as Ghost's best, let alone the classic some consider it.

-- ablaeser, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 20:38 (Yesterday) Link

this is just bs

i'm voting wu banga

i think i vote the posse cuts in every one of these polls. this is my second favorite ghost album behind pretty toney.

ONE

Too hard.

I listened to this last night actually and on that basis I'm going with "Buck 50" - yeah because of Meth, but Redman sounds great on this ("Y'ALL MORE LIKE A TRAINING BRA! WET BEHIND THE EAR, YA NOT PREPARED FOR THE PROJECT FLOW WITH EXTRA STAIRS!") and that beat is just insane - one of RZA's best club banger grooves that I've heard. Would love to drop it in the middle of a house set.

Other times it might be "Nutmeg", "One", "Apollo Kids", "Mighty Healthy", "We Made It", "Child's Play", "Cherchez La Ghost" or "Wu Banga 101" (often it's "Wu Banga 101" though).

This is my favourite Wu-Tang related album after Iron Flag, mostly because of how strong and varied the beats are. Most Wu-Tang albums I find it hard to get through in one sitting.

"I'M A HAVE TO GO SEE THE MOTHERFUCKIN RASTAS"

early 50 cent diss in one of the skits on this, too!

what do u think 'buck 50' was supposed to mean?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

I would have voted for "The Grain" if it hadn't been left off. I voted for "Child's Play" instead.

Mighty Healthy 0

u_u

I'm kinda upset about all the tracks that received zeroes here. But yeah, esp. "Mighty Healthy", which is what I imagined Enter The 36 Chambers would sound like before I heard it. I was always disappointed that it didn't.

"Mighty Healthy" is probably the most flat-out aggressive track on the album.

That's what I mean!

Too bad we won't be seeing Ghost in Mighty Healthy mode any time soon. He said his new album is going to be R&B. Sigh.

thats cool with me. id rather he do more like that than more dilla/peterock style rap nerd bait

Why on Earth? His worst material has been the numerous crossover attempts. You wouldn't ask Kool G Rap to do an R&B album, would you? Damn fans like you for leading him astray.

After writing that, I realized you have to be kidding. Please listen to IRONMAN.

Please listen to CAMAY or, for that matter, ALL THAT I GOT IS YOU.

deej totally otm, btw

Don't get confused and think his new material will be on par with RZA's shit. If he collaborates with these new bullshit cats, it'll end up sounding like an album full of Momma or Ghost Showers. He specifically said it won't be soulful.

i look forward to ghost&b with eagerness

really just to annoy this guy

"Ghost Showers" is great, dude.

BIG HOOS earning major internet points.

Seriously though, like "Momma" is a highlight of the tail end of Fishscale. Homie tell me how u feel about Bulletproof Wallets cause that may be our base disagreement.

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a.k.a the cab driver,
drop em off in the middle of fire
dirty alley,
drag bodies to the murderland

^^^^^^ the genesis

i'm eager to hear anything Ghost does, but i'd prefer more "Shakey Dog" & less "Momma".

BPW is an ok album. RZA's touch was sorely missed, though. A lot of it needed editing, and it's too bad some great tracks were left off due to sample clearance issues.

Also, if the new album is going to be all R&B, i hope it features a solid amount of 60 Second Assassin.

RZA actually produced more tunes for Bulletproof Wallets than Supreme Clientele, so I don't see how his "touch was missed" there. And BW is definitely a better album than SC. Some of the beats on SC have a pretty crappy lo-fi sound, whereas the beats on BW are more varied and sound better. In general I think BW is better because it has more varied tunes and moods - "Flowers" is one of the best Wu ballads. The nervous and screechy mood Ghostface is for the whole of SC gets kinda irritating for my ears at some point, I'd much prefer to listen to a few R&B tunes from him once in a while.

I mean, just listen to the drums on "Nutmeg", for example... How can anyone think they sound good? The drum sound is so weak and tinny.

I mean, just listen to the drums on "Nutmeg", for example... How can anyone think they sound good?

T I'm not in the habit of telling ppl to stfu but fuckin gaaah way to miss the point of nutmeg

"how can anyone think the guitars on 'ace of spades' sound good? they're so distorted!"

You know, I don't really mean no harm... but it just happens you know...

Tuomas...RZA didn't oversee BPW like he did Supreme Clientele. He worked on SC from its inception to its completion. He helped pick beats and mix the music. SC sounds like a RZA-produced Wu album. BPW sounds too clean...like what I'd imagine a Ghostface Roc-a-Fella album would sound like. The drums on Nutmeg are supposed to sound like that. Get rid of your preconceptions on what hip-hop drums are supposed to sound like, and you'll learn to appreciate it. Hollow Bones, anyone? 260?

I don't care if the drums were supposed sound like that, they still sound shitty to me. I'm not too fond of the drums on Hollow Bones, but in it they at least fit the overall sound, which is kinda weird and disorienting. Nutmeg just sounds like a rather regular hip-hop beat with a shitty drum sound; I think the punchy sample used in it would required stronger drums to emphasize it, now the drums just make the the whole beat weaker. Overall, I've never understood why low-fi/tinny sounds are supposed to be a good thing. I've always preferred the cleaner RZA beats, that's why The W is my favourite Clan album.

Speaking of R&B Ghost: http://www.zshare.net/audio/17405824ecbd2841/

And before you tell me how awesome his verse is, think about how boring the shit surrounding it would get on a full length album.

stfu already, you suck at having good opinions

Does your butt hurt?

Cause that must have been some fall from heaven

Does your butt hurt?

-- brightscreamer, Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:44 PM (Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:44 PM) Bookmark Link

I do have a pain in the ass right now, as a matter of fact.

Reverend, can I hold you?

sorry, but the troll feedery now is closed

can't wait to revive this exchange in two years

hahaha

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hahahaha

who the fuck was that guy anyway?

I wouldve voted Buck 50 for sure

I love music, too.

lol i was just weighing up whether to go back upthread and start throwing FPs around

Tuomas being particularly o_O

Mighty Healthy 0

u_u

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