Genesis - when did you get off the bus

I guess the fourth option is my pick here.

When I was up in Canada camping with my family one year, there was a lodge at one of the places we stayed that had a pool table and a jukebox (and the jukebox was only a nickel per song). On that jukebox, there was "I Can't Dance." I think my brother and I probably played that song about two dollars worth. It was still new enough that the video was in rotation, though I couldn't tell you how old I was (12?).

So… that's both where I got on and off the bus.

Which option was that one?

In the marvellous 'Tonight Tonight Tonight', why does Collins sing "Im coming down coming down like a monkey"?

I have like 7 Genesis albums, but I never listen to them.

Just can't get into them, try as I might.

They lost me with Illegal Alien.

I picked the third option, but I'd change "great" to "good."

Penultimate choice for me, assuming "pop band" period includes Abacab.

They lost me with Illegal Alien.

Sounds like a typical 4th option pick then, considering most of the "Genesis" album (apart from that track and a few others) was quite good indeed. :)

I picked the last choice. I went through a big prog phase a few years ago, but just didn't get into their stuff at all. Was too cheesily "epic" or something. Was way more into King Crimson, Yes, and Gentle Giant. Never liked EL&P either for the same reason.

Some of their 80s hits are classic, but not enough for me to say I liked them.

The two first albums with Phil were great, but no point wasting time on them after Steve left.

I'm horrible at remembering lyrics, but I bet that I could belt out the entirety of "That's All" right now.

3rd option for me. but I don't know how I feel about wind & wuthering.

Who would pick the first option?

Why not just list albums? I don't think everything post-Gabriel is crap but I also don't think Trick of the Tail is great. And why allow people to get off the bus after the first album but not e.g. when the Gabriel-led band moved from guitar-heavy prog-rawk to quasi-Eno-ish systemsmusik opera?

I don't know all their albums or anything though.

4th option for me. Abacab is tolerable, but post-Abacab is when they pretty much jumped the shark for me.

There needs to be an option for "I like everything up until 'We Can't Dance,' but starting with that album and then the one with the Stilskin dude they became insufferable."

<I>I picked the third option, but I'd change "great" to "good."

-- nickn, Friday, December 21, 2007 1:30 AM (4 hours ago)</I>

^^OTM

Wind & Wuthering is grate.

except that shitty ballad

I know everything up to and including Invisible Touch so I had to go for option 5, really. But there should be an option for "Would still go and see a Gabriel/Hackett reunion gig".

I loved the stuff off Invisible Touch when I was 10, but now it's like bile.

except that shitty ballad

I hope you mean "Your Own Special Way" and not "Blood On The Rooftops" or "Afterglow".

God yeah. The latter two are fantastic.

Shortbus, morelike

ew, now I have a mental image of Collins/Rutherford/Banks in a messy three-way.

http://birdiesong.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/confusion.jpg

I would also go for the fourth option. Invisible Touch was actually pretty good though at the time was overshadowed somewhat by Gabriel's So. But We Can't Dance was largely a dull affair and when the guy from Stiltskin came in to replace Collins ("grunge" in inverted commas) there wasn't much point left, if any.

Personally I did actually find "Calling All Stations" a better album than the last couple of albums before it. But that was in spite of Ray Wilson rather than because of him. It mainly had to do with Phil's departure which meant Tony Banks had more creative input again.

--Obligatory passage from American Psycho--

I just got Duke and And Then There Were Three. I don't know what the fuck is going on with me.

I voted option 3, but it's more complicated than that. Wasn't massively fussed by Trick of the Tail, loved Wind and Wuthering (it's my second favourite Genesis album after Selling England), loathed And Then There Were Three, at which point said bus was stepped off... but I retained a passing interest, and would certainly stick up for the likes of Turn It On Again, Paperlate and That's All. So option 3 is the personal choice, but option 4 might be the objective choice.

I demand a A Trick of the Tail vs. Wind & Wuthering poll.

Good question. My answer, specifically, would be with the album "Duke." That was the last one I purchased and attempted to like, but 1980 was all about new wave and post-punk for me. (Closest choice above would be the third.)

Plz JD Ryznar do a 10-part series on Phil Collins

http://nickdouglas.googlepages.com/PhilCollinsDanceIntoTheLight.jpg

There's something insanely depressing about that album cover.

Almost as depressing as the music within.

I chose Option 2

W&W doesn't suck, but compared to Lamb? Nuhhuh

Could never get to grips with Lamb, or Selling England either.

I would say that Genesis was pretty good until Phil Collins' "One More Night".

I only really like trespass, foxtrot and nursery....

In fact I think that there are more similarities on selling and lamb with the albums after 'wuthering' than with trick/wuthering.

Today's weather is EXACTLY like this:

http://www.rockstar.it/public/Wind77.jpg

Except with more rain and overweight people.

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I love prog but Genesis has never spoken to me. Except the "That's All" single which I had when I thought top 40 was rad.

I picked "they suck after Gabriel left," but mainly out of sentimental attachment to 14/15-year-old J0hn D., who was experimenting with being a snobby prog-head. In the middle of that whole flirtation I discovered Lou Reed, and my prog friends were like "he sucks! anybody could play that!" and I was like "yeah...umm...so what? these records are awesome" and we couldn't see eye to eye and then about a year later Billy Ocean started releasing totally bitchin' singles and also Jeffrey Osbourne came out with "Stay With Me Tonight" and that was pretty much the end of me and prog. I bought <i>Selling England By the Pound</i> a year ago to see if I had any lingering affection for it...nope.

Call me naive, but the 14/15-year-old Lostandfound never thought of prog as snobby. Just, um, different. I still like me some early Genesis, never understood ELP or even King Crimson and I really love a lot of Yes to this day. But I'd be genuinely curious what the 14/1-yr-old J0hn D. thought/thinks of the latter.

Should be 14/15-yr-old, although the tastes of 1-year-old J0hn D. might be interesting, too. ;)

the 1-year-old JD only acknowledged Peter Brotzmann records as having any validity at all

I haven't listened to Yes in forever and ever. Even when I was into long pseudo-"symponic" jams I had a goth streak and Yes always seemed a little too bubbly for me. Something about the dude's voice. I wonder if I'd like them now more than I did then.

yr weird

You might, you know. Yes can be kind of bubbly (if by "bubbly" you mean verging on twee), especially their late '70s stuff (Tormato), but they were always a strange mix of "easy" and "difficult", melodic and rhythmically odd, almost clunky at times yet also capable of bringing the funk. For me, it was always about Chris Squire's bass over Anderson's voice... or perhaps the contrast of the two? Anyway, apologies to Genesis fans, I didn't mean to sidetrack this into yet another ILM Yes thread!

dude chaki they're calling fuckin "Yes," the goth credo is "No"

I voted "first 2 phil albums were great....." I kind of like "then there were three" and "duke", bits of "abacab", it all seems a bit oversimplified after the previous albs though, a bit of a let down.

i was thinking just how weird lamb sounded the other day compared to the records around it. there are no "fantasy" epics on it, for one thing; it seems more influenced by metropolis, surrealism, and sci-fi or something. trick and wuthering definitely go back to the pastoral and there is nothing pastoral about 'lamb'. i imagine that's because gabriel wrote all of the lyrics on lamb and maybe wrote a huge chunk of the music on it as well compared to the earlier records, i don't know.

"Lamb" - with the exception of the very typical Banks-track "The Lamia" - sounds like "Peter Gabriel (0)" really. But it's still a great album.

I used to be all about The Squonk in high school...so, Option 3...

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ugh son