Rolling Indie Thread 2008

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Keep it in here, boys.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link

LOL

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link

dude i was so gonna start this thread!!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link

in all seriousness though.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link

In all seriousness, though, it serves a useful purpose.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

You mean so all the moaners can avoid any threads about indie?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm betting not enough exciting things happen in indie this year to warrant starting individual threads.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

So there doesn't have to be a separate thread for every indie album that comes out and general discourse can be had and found in one designated place? xp

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

nah because a lot of the threads for fringe indie bands— phosphorescent, vampire weekend, be your own pet, tough alliance threads off the top of my head— are all like 7 posts long usually by the same 4-5 people. so it amkes sense just to gather everyone here.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

right right xp xp

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

obv lcd and spoon and m.i.a.-type bands can move off to the board, but this makes sense.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link

No one's stopping anyone from starting individual threads. If something needs an individual thread, it can have an individual thread. Some things, however, aren't needing of individual threads. xps

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I could've used this thread last year, given that I was kind of excited about a few indie things early in the year (new young pony club, manhattan love suicides, los campesinos), but never really spent enough time thinking about them (and thus, spending enough time listening to them, except los campesinos). also, i need song recommendations from all pop-related genres... so yay.

sw00ds, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah im not arguing, i just love the fact those sort of threads annoy so many closeminded ilxors
x-posts

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

2008 indie albums I like so far (indie as a genre, not an economic construct, so Mechanical Bull and Drive By Truckers and some other stuff doesn't count):

(Various) – Disco Not Disco (Strut reissue)
Horror Pops – Kiss Kiss Kill Kill (Hellcat)
Mahjongg – Kontpab (K)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think those ilxors are closeminded as much as it's the fact indie has totally blown for the most part for at least 3 years and running.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link

xp Also:

Atomic Bitch – Promnite (T&B)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm excited about this thread. i don't really read stereogum anymore but they are otm with this band:

http://stereogum.com/archives/band-to-watch/band-to-watch-high-places_007543.html

they are called High Places and they do the droopy-eyelid druggy psych-pop thing like panda bear EXCEPT THIS IS GOOD. really nice steel drum polyrhythms and the girl singer's got a pretty good voice. if panda bear was groggy on the shore with the sun in its eyes, then high places revel on the ocean floor where the sun sometimes peeks through the darkness.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link

a lot of these songs sound like if beach house did ecstasy.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think those ilxors are closeminded as much as it's the fact indie has totally blown for the most part for at least 3 years and running.

I wouldnt argue with that, for mainstream indie at least.
Lots of good indie-metal about actually.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:46 (sixteen years ago) link

http://stereogum.com/archives/stereogums-2008-album-forecast_007552.html#more

^good 2008 indie albums list to bookmark

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm really excited about the Girl Talk album. And the Magnetic Fields. Mmmm. New Cat Power AND new Drive-By Truckers. It's gonna be a good January.

Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think those ilxors are closeminded as much as it's the fact indie has totally blown for the most part for at least 3 years and running.

Oh, h-e-double-hockey-sticks. I think that's completely wrong, but whatevs. Maybe when it's over, we'll all agree that 2008 was a great year for indie rock. In the meantime, I'm glad this thread was opened, I look forward to reading it, and Happy New Year to you all.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:34 (sixteen years ago) link

(Don't know where I got that "h-e-double-hockey-sticks" thing, but I like it).

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

wtf is that girl talk album? for an album supposedly coming out in 8 days, ive seen nothing on pitchfork/blogs about it and there is nothing on wikipedia, his myspace or his label's site.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no idea, Jordan! But I believe what I read; always and implicitly!

Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:40 (sixteen years ago) link

nah i mean as far as indie albums go i'd imagine stereogum is pretty reputable, so i'm just wondering. night ripper was my fav album of 2006 so i'm really excited about this if it's true.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:41 (sixteen years ago) link

as far as indie albums go i'd imagine stereogum is pretty reputable

If you set aside the fact that Stereogum is one of the main reasons that shitty indie has stolen the spotlight and choked the life out of any good music that's gotten made.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

what i meant about that is on a purely informational basis i.e. announcing an album before a mass press release, or, in this case, posting a list of albums announced in press releases which they undoubtedly get from probably every indie band on the face of the earth.

i don't know where their tastes lies these days but if it's with, say, lcd/battles/jens lekman/spoon i'm okay with that.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I only like Battles out of those mentioned. I must be not indie anymore.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:49 (sixteen years ago) link

DJ Martian's 2008 expected list goes up on RYM tomorrow, which is 1000x more exciting than anything Stereogum can probably dig up (if you exclude the black metal and freak jazz stuff he emphasizes).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Just watched Once. Surely that falls under the Rolling Indie Thread 2008 coverage. So, what'd ya'all think about it?

Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 05:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I just saw it this past weekend. Decently sweet. And I never realized until I saw him in a cinematic situation again that Glen Hansard of The Frames was actually in The Commitments eons ago.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 05:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think those ilxors are closeminded as much as it's the fact indie has totally blown for the most part for at least 3 years and running.

Nope, I'm pretty closeminded all right. BUT I AM TRYING in 2008. Plus I've already heard one pretty good album; Weinland's La Lamentor, comin' hard with teh emo-tinged blues-folk stylingz.

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 06:55 (sixteen years ago) link

allegedly the pas/cal album will be out in february. but it probably won't be.

keythkeyth, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 07:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Wasn't the pas/cal album supposed to come out last February...and the February before that one? I predict right now that, if it ever comes out, it will be the worst, most labored hunk of poo in history.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 07:20 (sixteen years ago) link

there was a semi-review on the burnlab, he says it is one of the albums of the decade.

Pas/Cal LP exclusive + Richard Panic Interview
I was fortunate enough to preview Pas/Cal's debut LP and interview keyboardist Richard Panic several weeks ago. The album will be titled I Was Raised on Matthew, Mark, Luke and Laura (not Citizen's Army Unifrom as previously reported,) and will be out early next year.

This is the most anticipated LP from a Detroit-based band in a good long time. It took long enough to complete: about three years. Some of us were wondering if it would ever get done and if the band would still be intact when it was finished. Not only did the wait prove to be worthwhile, but all fears have been put to rest.

I Was Raised on Matthew, Mark, Luke and Laura is an elaborate and extraordinary piece of work. For those expecting simply an extension of Pas/Cal's EP trilogy, this is not. It is a self-contained album, and somewhat of a departure from the Pas/Cal we're familar with. There are reworks of familiar songs, such as personal faves Little Red Radio and O Honey We're Ridiculous [which was never formally released until now, but a crowd pleaser at live shows,] along with unexpected conceptual works such as the "Cherry Suite." There are moments it gets too proggy for my taste - the overpowering production on The Glorious Ballad of the Ignored detracts from the crisp songwriting for example. Obsessive production, clever songwriting and charisma are Pas/Cal's main strengths, and they strike just the right balance the majority of the time. One of the finest exaples is Citizen's Army Uniform. The LP goes well beyond a synopsis of the band thus far: presenting a new, unexpectedly eclectic and solidly unified vision. If this doesn't make the decade's top 10 lists, the critics simply aren't paying enough attention. In the spirit of Pulp and The Smiths, it's a near perfect pop album: earworm infectious on first listen and still fascinating on the 100th listen.

I liked the original imaginary title better.

keythkeyth, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Alright, quite nice to see this is actually taking off.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

As of January 2, The Chiara L's are my rookie of the year/artist I'd most like to hear more from.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link

obv lcd and spoon and m.i.a.-type bands can move off to the board, but this makes sense.

-- J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 02:35 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

:)

Just got offed, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 13:04 (sixteen years ago) link

On this note, I'm on tour (playing drums/road managing) with Two Ton Boa (Kill Rock Stars) right now. Give a shout if you might make it to one of these shows:

Fri 12/28 - Portland, OR @ Dantes w/SubArachnoid Space, Prize Country
Sat 12/29 - Boise, ID @ Neurolux w/Tim Andrea

Mon 12/31 - Denver, CO @ Hi-Dive w/Dev-OH (Devo tribute!)

Thu 01/03 - Iowa City, IA @ Picador

Sat 01/05 - Chicago, IL @ Vic Theater w/Dresden Dolls
Sun 01/06 - St Louis, MO @ The Pageant w/Dresden Dolls

Tue 01/08 - Birmingham, AL @ Workplay Theater w/Dresden Dolls

Thu 01/10 - Tampa, FL @ Tampa Theater w/Dresden Dolls
Fri 01/11 - Atlanta, GA @ Variety Theater w/Dresden Dolls
Sat 01/12 - Raleigh, NC @ Carolina Theater w/Dresden Dolls
Sun 01/13 - Norfolk, VA @ Norva Theater w/Dresden Dolls

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link

damn that stereogum list is getting me excitied about this year

new xiu xiu, mt.zion, magnetic fields, m83, spiritualized...all lookin good

gman, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Just played the new Mae Shi album, 'HLLLYH' (title not explained). I would't have put them in a rolling indie thread before, they were more from the abrasive math-rock side of things, but this is pretty cool and more tuneful. Lots of keyboards, time changes blahdiblah. It'd be nice if people gave a shit about them this year but not holding m'breath

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

ppl are all over no age/health etc. so it's possible...

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

HLLLYH

I like that this could be pronounced "hell yeah" or "hallelujah"

pgwp, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link

is this like a new thing or has there always been a rolling indie thread?

Surmounter, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone heard the new Okay album, Huggable Dust, yet? Once you get past his Nyquil voice, the music is really quite nice.

I kind of remember that double album from a couple years ago, and maybe it was good too, but this is great.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 January 2008 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Reverend, you must be very pleased with yourself. Now come on, where'd you put the keys?

the higgs, Thursday, 3 January 2008 08:11 (sixteen years ago) link

The new King Khan and BBQ Show album is the shit

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 January 2008 08:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Reverend, you must be very pleased with yourself. Now come on, where'd you put the keys?

-- the higgs, Thursday, January 3, 2008 12:11 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Moi? : D

Actually, I started this thread in at least 80% seriousness.

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 January 2008 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

lucky!

I know, right?, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Discography
1986 - Poison Look What the Cat Dragged In
1988 - Poison - Open Up and Say...Ahh!
1990 - Poison - Flesh & Blood
1990 - Warrant - Cherry Pie (Performing lead guitar in the song's "Cherry Pie" solo)
1990 - Sam Kinison - Have You Seen Me Lately? - Wild Thing
1990 - Sam Kinison - Leader of the Banned
1991 - Poison - Swallow This Live (Double Live Disc Set)
1993 - CC Deville - Son in Law Soundtrack - Hey Good Lookin' (with Spike from the Quireboys)
1996 - Poison - Poison's Greatest Hits: 1986-1996
1997 - LEN - You Can't Stop The Bum Rush - Feelin' Alright
1998 - Bret Michaels - A Letter From Death Row - Party Rock Band
2000 - The Muffs - Hamburger
2000 - Samantha 7
2000 - Poison - Crack a Smile...and More! (features CC on the bonus tracks)
2000 - Poison - Power to the People
2001 - Poison Greatest Video Hits - DVD
2002 - Poison - Hollyweird
2003 - Poison - Best Of Ballads & Blues
2003 - Bret Michaels - Songs of Life - Party Rock Band
2004 - Spin The Bottle: An All-Star Tribute To Kiss - I Stole Your Love
2006 - Poison - The Best of Poison: 20 Years of Rock
2007 - Motörhead - Kiss of Death (Guitar Solo on "God Was Never On Your Side")
2007 - Poison - Poison'd (cover album)
2008 - Poison - Live, Raw & Uncut

roxymuzak, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i love that song

I know, right?, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link

well, not really

I know, right?, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/indierock/indierock.html

roxymuzak, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

again, lib???

roxymuzak, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

wait waht?

ASCII NED (libcrypt), Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

shite

ASCII NED (libcrypt), Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

those damn undies

roxymuzak, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

roxymuzak, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i already pasted that! haw

roxymuzak, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

When I glance around the bands that are supposedly ‘indie’ today, I don’t see any attitude. I don’t see any content in their records, any political interest in the band members. They’re a terrible generation, unfortunately, but they’re becoming famous overnight and selling a lot of records.

I was in Gap a few weeks ago

and there was some sort of generic indie music playing,” he says. “I was with a friend who’s a promoter and a bit younger than me. After about three or four tracks I asked him: ‘Whose LP is this?’ And he said, ‘No, it’s a compilation.’ Every track sounded identical. The guitars, the production; all these bands sound like they’re made in the same studio with the same producer. It’s such a ball-less, soulless, generic whitewashed indie sound. You could probably take a member from each band and throw them together in a new group and no one would be able to tell the difference. They’re completely interchangeable. Scouting for Girls are like the sound of Satan’s scrotum emptying. They’re abysmal.

negotiable, Sunday, 30 November 2008 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Britpop changed everything

negotiable, Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Why don't they play the Gap band in the Gap???

ASCII NED (libcrypt), Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, that's perfectly fine to think, but it's about the laziest shit ever. right, so a Gap comp wasn't any good, shockah! the point of playing that in the store is because they sound similar, and it's supposed to be easy for normal people to listen to. i think treating a Gap comp as a microcosm of a particular genre falls on its face pretty quick.

k3vin k., Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

xp

k3vin k., Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

indie music is the only important music and it is all totally different, in fact most indie bands are so different from each other that it is amazing that indie exists at all

Anus, right? (I know, right?), Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I would say indie music is: Music with a new sound in any genre.

Z S, Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link

any genre?

Anus, right? (I know, right?), Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Indie like Jive Bunny?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I would say indie music is: Music with a new sound in any genre

k3vin k., Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link

truth bomb

I know, right?, Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I would say indie music is: Music with a new sound in any genre

― k3vin k., Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:12 AM (12 seconds ago)

I know, right?, Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link

indie music now is like what alternative music was by 1998. I caught about 20 seconds of one of those stupid Disney kids shows a few years ago, and a bunch of skinny-jeans and plaid wearing 11 year olds were like, "hey man, we're trying to start an indie band!"

So, there you have it.

burt_stanton, Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Thread finally delivers.

Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

is indie for hipsters?

I know, right?, Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

or: brilliantly sidesteps the point
xp

k3vin k., Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Indie is for have you shagged ariane yet?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Todays indie kids

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 November 2008 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link

somewhere, the guy who managed to get "fully loaded" onto the bag intended to sell underwear is laughing quietly to himself.

J0hn D., Sunday, 30 November 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link

haw

Kaykaybluestar1 (roxymuzak), Sunday, 30 November 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link

army navy sound really good - like an artier voxtrot kinda

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i can see that. not a bad record at all

been getting into pants yell! a bit lately. 100x better than their name would lead you to believe

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Friday, 12 December 2008 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link

sexy kids 45 on slumberland craps all over the recent hyped stuff they've put out

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Friday, 12 December 2008 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

the label that is, not the band

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Friday, 12 December 2008 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i fear that i might've been wrong about friendly fires - music is way poppier and less foals-y than i originally thought. i still kind of have a problem w/ the production though. i wish it was warmer and more enveloping like well produced disco but then again it's paul epworth producing a british indie band so i shouldn't be asking for too much

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link

some of this stuff sounds like the funkier stuff on the new tv on the radio

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

bouncing back

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 12 December 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

The Pain Of Being Pure At Heart - ST

as if jesus and mary chain making a record for k records. or something.

Zeno, Friday, 12 December 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

hay guys, i know i can be pretty tuomas about indie rock but i heard a couple of those bon iver tunes and i really like them. the claps and the sampled percussion stuff keeps it interesting, but is the whole album like that or just the ones i heard (skinny love and wolves, i think)?

also a chick gave me devendra banhart's last cd and i don't hate it, what is happening to me.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

(although mostly i like the ones where he's blatantly trying to cop samba or motown or whatever, although the gospel one does not work for me).

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

does the ilxor indie pop mafia know about this lot?

From Finland...

Burning Hearts
http://www.myspace.com/burningheartsmusic
Burning Hearts - Recommended to Black Box Recorder / St Etienne / Camera Obscura fans

2009 album

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s1888987.jpg

djmartian, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link

four years pass...

i really never expected there to be a new indelicates album in 2013

groovy replacement (electricsound), Thursday, 2 May 2013 05:14 (eleven years ago) link

http:/djmartian.blogspot.com

buzza, Thursday, 2 May 2013 05:18 (eleven years ago) link


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