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I'm trying to get into DJing and hopefully sampling from vinyl eventually and I had a question.

I have turntables and a bunch of records, but most of the records I have are pretty random and terrible, I didn't pick them out myself, most came with the turntables and others were probably my parents.

I am hesitant to throw stuff out because, how do I know their isn't some amazing thing on this random record...

At the same time, I don't have time to sit around and listen to every song on these random records and I hate having a bunch of clutter and would rather have records that I picked out personally because their really good.

I guess I have to bite the bullet and just give away/sell/throw out ones that look terrible, and maybe test out a few that I'm not sure about, right?

I mean, is it better to have a collection you select deliberately or a bunch of random records?

Colin_C., Thursday, 3 January 2008 05:05 (sixteen years ago) link

What are some of the records?

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 3 January 2008 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

is it really that much of an effort to listen to the records? the alternative is just to only by things on ebay with "breaks" in the description

electricsound, Thursday, 3 January 2008 05:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Uhhh

I mean, let me list a few:

I could be sitting on a goldmine and I just don't know it but here's the first few I could grab:

Television theme songs by Mike Post (this looks cool even though I've never seen any of the shows listed)

Dick Kesner and his Magic Stradivarius "the music of Hawaii"

Carmen Miranda "South American Way"

Soiree De Musique Classique Orientale "Mouchaats"

Bobby Vee's Golden Greats

"The Art of Flamenco guitar" Paco Pena

April in Portugal Bert Kampfert and his orchestra

Vince Guaraldi "oh good grief"

Sugarman Three "Sugar's Boogaloo"

New Edition "Candy Girl"

Tasha Thomas "Shoot Me (with your love)" single

Andy Gibb "Shadow Dancing"

These are some that I really don't know if there will be anything good on it to sample or listen to or not (I'm purposely not picking any records that I know are good music for sure)

I guess the conflict also lies in that I have a slight fetish for corny 80s music and it would be cool to sample something that's not even that good, but I could make good.

I don't know maybe I should just go through my records and keep the ones I know are good or at least look interesting and then leave all the rest in my mom's basement. That way when I really get into sampling vinyl (which probably won't be for a while) I can always dig them out and start experimenting.

Did I answer my own question?

I don't know tell me what you think anyway, although I'm not sure how representative that sample is...

Colin_C., Thursday, 3 January 2008 05:20 (sixteen years ago) link

And yeah, I guess it really wouldn't be that much of a pain in the ass to listen to the records if I just listened to like one or two a day.

Thanks for pointing out my laziness...

Again, I'm still happy to hear anything anyone else wants to add aobut this topic.

Colin_C., Thursday, 3 January 2008 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i would listen to a set of those records Colin! just play them one ofter the other, and switch to a new one when the old one gets boring

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 January 2008 05:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Keep the New Edition at least...

rock_is_dead, Thursday, 3 January 2008 06:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Colin, you don't have to listen to every second of every record, you pick up pretty quickly that a record will be interesting or not by skipping through. if you are looking for samples or breaks, try listening to the start of a track (instruments being gradually brought in) or about 2/3rds of the way through (the breakdown section) - its worth looking at the vinyl itself as the breakdown section will usually have darker grooves (as there is less information on them.)
Soiree De Musique Classique Orientale sounds interesting!

zappi, Thursday, 3 January 2008 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks

Colin_C., Thursday, 3 January 2008 06:39 (sixteen years ago) link

"Shadow Dancing" is a good song.

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 3 January 2008 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

If you have two decks and a mixer, you could burn through a bunch of records very quickly and get some practice along the way.

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 3 January 2008 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Why the fuck does the crossfader on my Numark mixer keep breaking after like 6 months of use? It just crackles and bleeds now. Totally fucking useless piece of shit.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

too much crab scratching

(jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 06:41 (fifteen years ago) link

whiney q. berten

still lolling, 'still lolling theme' (haitch), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 07:04 (fifteen years ago) link

To much Numark.

By a Rane.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Too much Numark.

Buy a better mixer.

I'll learn how to spell.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link

http://twelvez.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ttm56sad.jpg

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

clean it with a can of compressed air, then a little wd40. if it's really ruined, see if you can swap it with one of the up faders.

one time, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

http://twelvez.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ttm56sad.jpg

I'm new to the internet.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

very new

http://twelvez.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ttm56sad.jpg

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

On the broken mixer note, my recently bought used Xone:32, when using pressing the tap tempo button for the filter (which I don't use, it being relatively useless) suddenly almost all the led lights for the buttons went on, and they couldn't work, no cue, filter, etc. After an hour of turning it off and on it stopped, but not after scaring the hell out of me first.

Anyone know what the hell this is?

EDB, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know, but I'd imagine the less digital doo-hickeys a mixer has, the less likely it'll go kaput. Have I mentioned my Rane 56? I have the old version, not the newer one that's above. My first mixer was a gemini but it broke. Then I bought a stanton but it broke. Then I bought the Rane. A friend spilled vodka on/in it and a channel stopped working. I got it repaired under warranty. Other then that it's a workhorse.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Man, after the last one broke so quick, i didn't bother getting a warranty because I just thought they were supposed to break.

I'm gonna try the wd-40 and air and pray for the best. Even when the fader is all the way to one side, you can hear some of the other channel. it's hella annoying.

I think I'm probably too rough with it, like just slappin' the fader to one side.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

does it have swappable faders? That's an easy enough solution. But that kind of bleed is pretty common after abuse, esp. on cheaper mixers.

Oh yeah, real DJs don't use crossfaders anyway.

I'm kidding.

Though I rarely do, just the up and down faders, and occasionaly the CF to cut.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

this stuff works ok to get rid of crackle from the connections getting oxidized

http://www.turntablelab.com/images/content/9/6/9602.jpg

it's called DeOxIt

might be essentially the same as wd-40 though

dmr, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

the Ranes don't get that problem because they are magnetic and the connections don't touch iirc

on the other hand they're expensive. (I have a Vestax)

dmr, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Never saw this thread before, but Colin's year-old list got me thinking that if he looped a funky drumbeat from the Sugarman Three, and then overlaid samples of even SOME of those (I'm thinkin' Music of Hawaii/flamenco/Carmen Miranda) it would probably be totes awesome!

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

huh, my stanton works fine after more than two years and much abuse/shuffling around.

the blowhard is the blowhard (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

burnt_stanton

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link

you're not rocking it hard enough.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

'Vince Guaraldi "oh good grief"'
this record is great. if you can train a dog to boogie dance on a piano with nose pointed straight up in the air while blasting this, celebration!

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

dan, i am rocking it hard. trust me-- more parties than i can count, all of them loud, raucous, etc.

the blowhard is the blowhard (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

you dj'ing in the deep end of a pool while people are blowing smoke and dropping ashes on it? Is it attached to your belt while you jump up and down on a disco trampoline? Do you put it on a frisbee and throw it to other DJs while tag-teaming? Are you juggling it as so many beats? That's rocking it hard.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

what about this one-- once had to move my mixer and one of my decks to a windowsill so that they were both out the window, keep the mix smooth and balance them so that they wouldn't fall. too many people dancing on a table.

that good enuff?

the blowhard is the blowhard (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

jeez why not just set it on a feathered pillow while yr at it

zzz (deej), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

that's pretty good!

I dj'd a college party (yes, oberlin) with two belt-driven automatic turntables and an A/B switch. That's hardcore.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

once i djed while parachuting out of a plane

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

max poetics

tbh-a soarin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^lmao

zzz (deej), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

shoulda been a display name :(

tbh-a soarin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link


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