Songs where the context is shifted to be about what the subject (1st person) thinks of the band performing!

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From that one by Pink Floyd which goes "which one's pink", through "Love your money" Daisy Chainsaw, "Money for Nothing", even "We Love You" maybe...

are there any that aren't meant ironically or sarcastically?

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

can you be more specific?

Zeno, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

All The Kids Are Right by Local H seems to fit the bill....I think.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Mott the Hoople has to have at least one of these. There entire catalog is pretty much a band autobiography (and a good one).

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

In the fictional division: Sultans of Swing

ledge, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not entirely sure what Mark's after, but the title track of Sound Of Silver seems to be describing the cumulative emotional affect that the album up until that point has had on the listener - "sound of silver talks to you / makes you want to feel like a teenager / until you remember the feelings of / a real, live, emotional teenager".

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

OK try this:

Song text: people talking about the band that are performing.

e.g. "The one in the middle" Manfred Mann

or: "Bohemian Like You"

Antonym: "You Love Us" the Manics.

How would you describe that in one catchy line? My gift for eyecatching thread titles has deserted me temporarily.

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

except the first line is actually "sound of silver talk to me", somewhat confusingly.

TS food snobs vs grammar pedants vs lyric pedants

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ledge, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

maybe steely dan's "show biz kid"

Zeno, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, perfect example comes from our hero Zoogz Rift. First line from his classic "Island of Living Puke" album: "Oh no! Not another god damn Zoogz Rift Album!" (Retort: "It's The Island of Living Puke, you asshole.")

Followed, later, by the equally wonderful "Nightclub Sequence" where a couple of fans chat about Zoogz and life over his performance of "I'm Having A Heart Attack."

Given the general reaction Zoogz gets, I doubt any of this is ironic or sarcastic. Just accurate.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Kinda: Ciccone Youth, Two Cool Rock Chicks Listening To Neu! (talking about Dinosaur, J Mascis on guitar)

dad a, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

kinda:steely dan's "parker band" (?!)

Zeno, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

are you talkin' about songs where the narrative shifts from third to first person in the middle of the song, from an outsider to the singer's point of view?...wow, tall order...drawing a blank here, but this makes me think of Alice Cooper's "Be My Lover", which was written by the guitarist (Mike Bruce) and perversely sung by Alice, in the voice of Mike Bruce: "she asked me why the singer's name was Alice"...

henry s, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

Kool and the Gang's "Hollywood Swingin'" is my favourite example of this.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

SHOULD WE BREAK HIS SWEET HANDS?

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

Perfect example (um...I think...): the Who, "The Punk and the Godfather" :

PUNK:
You declared you would be three inches taller
You only became what we made you.
Thought you were chasing a destiny calling
You only earned what we gave you.
You fell and cried as our people were starving,
Now you know that we blame you.
You tried to walk on the trail we were carving,
Now you know that we framed you.

G.F.:
I'm the guy in the sky
Flying high Flashing eyes
No surprise I told lies
I'm the punk in the gutter
I'm the new president
But I grew and I bent
Don't you know? don't it show?
I'm the punk with the stutter.

Sara Sara Sara, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Your ass (act?) belongs to a dying nation.

What a great song that is.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

From the singer's POV to the outsider's: That weird thing in the "Sloan Party" disc where the guy in the bathroom asks what song the band is playing (the Stereolab/Canned Heat medley).

ellaguru, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Both at the same time: "One Chord Wonders."

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

doesn't pretty much every other kevin rowland song qualify?
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Fanboy 3, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Wilco, The Lonely One

Vornado, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

does rap count?

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

that bit in "what goes on" where john mumbles "we already told you why" after the second chorus

Billy Pilgrim, Thursday, 10 January 2008 01:02 (eighteen years ago)

second verse, not chorus

Billy Pilgrim, Thursday, 10 January 2008 01:03 (eighteen years ago)


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