There Is No Proper Sandy Denny Thread! I Love Her. I Will Always Love Her.

i am going to the store tomorrow with an armful of CDs to get that boxful of treasures box that i never felt like i had the money for. i think i need it to keep on living.

anybody get that Live at the BBC box?...something tells me that will be my 2008 indulgence...

Her version of Who Knows Where The Time Goes is the best. Always gets me.

one of the few artists that can make me cry. right on, Skot.

Boxful Of Treasures is great, but don't throw away your old Who Knows Where The Times Goes box sets because there are things on that you can't get on the box.

right. i knew that. they are all kinds of different. i mostly listen to her albums. they are all so solid.

I guess you don't consider this thread a proper thread.

no, i don't.

And rightly so.

amateurist never did come clean on his sandy denny flip-flop

wow that Guardian article linked in the other thread is so sad.

and also she is my favorite female singer ever, so yeah there is a lot of emotion tied up with that.

she's so adorable in this fotheringay clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JlJMI8T57g

i think fotheringay breaking up after one album was a huge mistake, from what i've read sandy was profoundly insecure and needed a stabilizing group around her. the line-up of that band was very simpatico, not as talented overall as fairport but very solid all around. i think i read where joe boyd kept pressuring her to go completely solo, and she reluctantly broke up the band.

i can't wait for the unreleased 2nd fotheringay album (or what is being billed as such) to come out, was supposed to happen in oct but it got pushed back. jerry donohue is putting it together.

hmm, didn't know that there was an unreleased fotheringay album in the pipelines! cool. i've got a bootleg with some lo-fi studio and live recordings called Poems For Alexandria -- is that what's coming out? anyway, yeah, i love her too. a voice that cuts to the heart of the matter.

The title of this thread makes me think it's going to have a Porter Wagoner/Dolly Parton tie-in.

i would have babies with her voice

i know what you mean. which is weird. but there you have it.

I don't have much to say, aside from that I too am one of the legions of Sandy D fans. I just put "Autopsy" on a mix CD this morning.

i have the fotheringay LP, that is some good shit

yeah, the fotheringay record is dope as heck. "Ballad of Ned Kelly" is totally my go-to jam on that one.

here is news about the "new" fotheringay

Tracks to be included are original versions of "Eppie Moray", "Gypsy Davey", "Late November", "Lowlands Of Holland", "John the Gun", "Wild Mountain Thyme", "Knights Of The Road", "Silver Threads And Golden Needles", "Two Weeks Last Summer", "Bold Jack Donahue" and as yet unnamed instrumental written by Trevor Lucas and Jerry Donahue. Many of those are well-known in Sandy Denny's solo versions, some found their way into the connoisseurs' hands on bootlegs. Fortunately, the great band's heritage is in the caring hands now and the previously unfinished masterpiece will eventually see the light of day.

And here's Jerry's diary.

July 24, 2007
Things are going great (in fact, even better than I'd hoped as I uncover more treasures within the many versions of those songs). The only down side is that since it took Universal till May to get me the complete works (they had approved my involvement in February!) and I have had so many other commitments from the end of June that will keep me busy till the end of the year, I have had to ask for more time and David Suff of the Fledg'ling Records has agreed that we should not do a rush job and so we are talking about an October 2008 release.

I had hoped that I could have the stuff made available to me soon after the February approval date when I had so much time on my hands but it was not to be for whatever reason. As the two lead singers, Sandy Denny and Trevor Lucas, are no longer with us and so this is a one-time project only, it has to be first rate or I would not be doing justice to all those who participated in this fine music nor the fans either at the end of the day!

The good news is that we have found more songs that were Trevor's contributions that were missing before. I'd forgotten about them till they were uncovered recently, but had been concerned that the album was Trevor light to such an extent. Up till then Trevor had only one full song and the first 3/4 of one other, the last verse of which Sandy sings. Now it's 4 3/4 to Trev, 7 1/4 to Sandy and the one instrumental!

still on track for the fall

Fotheringay 2

Work is nearing completion on the long-rumoured second Fotheringay album. The band were working on their second album at the end of 1970 when they disbanded. Whilst working on various other archive projects it became clear that the tapes still existed in the Island Records tape archive, and that there was more material than had previously been thought. Jerry Donahue has been working with Pat Donaldson and Gerry Conway to review all the recordings and finish mixing. Cover art is being prepared and sleeve-notes commissioned for what promises to be a treat for all fans of Sandy Denny and British folk-rock. Release is scheduled for late September.

oh, its, a...

Long time

From May to Late September...

especially after having waited already for 38 years...

hey I just discovered an unpublished interview from the 1974 Fotheringay tour, will put up here ASAP.

Hey neat!

either you mean 1970, or you're talking about fairport circa 74 which had 1/2 of the fotheringay lineup.

The Fotheringay second album release is great news! Very excited. Though I'm hoping that it's mostly Sandy on lead vocals -- I'm not nuts about the songs where she doesn't take the lead on the first Fotheringay record. It's like, WHY? You've got Sandy Denny in the band -- MAKE HER SING.

On the contrary, I like the Trevor Lucas songs! Also like him on "Fairport Nine".

"new" fotheringay record out now, some info here
http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7139&Itemid=1

yeah I am excited

cool interview w/Fotheringay here (in the photos, click on them)

http://musicalfamilytree.ning.com/profile/EricSinclair

I thought you meant sandy dennis the actress.

the mp3 clips are lovely stuff, will be getting hold of this for sure

Funny, I saw a portrait of Sandy Denny, and noticed how much my niece Alex looks like her.

A while later, I was looking at a copy of "What we did on our holidays" and on the back sleeve, I noticed that actually the similarity was closer, in that they have the same first name!

Really, really into The North Star Grassman and the Ravens right now.

I just bought "Like An Old Fashioned Waltz" today and oh my, I'm totally taken.

I've always had a low-level love for the couple of Fairport albums my parents exposed me to as a child ("Liege & Lief" and "Unhalfbriking") and absolutely loved the song 'Who Knows Where The Time Goes?' to absolute heart-breaking death, but somehow never really thought to look at her solo albums.

I'm so very very glad I did, this is beautiful and sad and wonderful.

would recommend Sandy next, but they're all good ... funny, even though i was very excited in this thread about that Fotheringay 2 release, I never got it. anyone want to heavily recommend it to me?

I love Old Fashioned Waltz too - especially her version of "Whispering Grass (Don't Tell the Trees)". The other solo album of hers that I have is Rendezvous, which I haven't listened too much, but which seems a bit uneven. Her version of "Candle in the Wind" in particular seems superfluous.

yeah, Rendezvous is prob the worst one, but it's still got some great stuff, like "I'm A Dreamer" ... I like "Friends" from Old Fashioned Waltz -- always wondered who that song was about?

funny, even though i was very excited in this thread about that Fotheringay 2 release, I never got it. anyone want to heavily recommend it to me?

It is every bit as good as you or I could have hoped for, a real treat.

like an old fashioned waltz was the first solo album i bought of hers in the late 80's and i played it CONSTANTLY for months. then ran like crazy to any store i could find that had more. essential essential essential.

the fotheringay2 record is ok, i was a little disappointed, lots of earlier versions of songs that appeared on other sandy/fairport recordings. but still essential if you love her.

was thinking of of fotheringay today because that new midlake record sounds a lot like them

I picked up the "No More Sad Refrains" anthology last year - it seems like the perfect dose of Sandy, hitting all the best bits of her solo work. Do you hardcore fans see anything critical missing from it?

i'll keep it with mine from the 2nd fairport record, tomorrow is a long time from northstar and bushes & briars from sandy are worth having, at the very least

the fairport version of quiet joys of brotherhood is a lot better than her solo version imo

the solo albums are just great album experiences. even Rendezvous has its charms. they are all good to sink into. in a way that a comp might miss. they are snapshots of a particular time.

wild mountain thyme from that "new" fotheringay record has such a gorgeous vocal, but they sorta sweetened it with some cheesy keyboards after the fact

"No End" from 'Like An Old Fashioned Waltz" is an absolutely wonderful song. I got stuck on the whole album last night and almost all of today, must have listened to it 10-15 times, but that song stuck out even so. There's a solo piano version at the end of this CD reissue which is perhaps even better to my ears than the full album version; totally sublime.

"My dreams were like the autumn leaves, they faded and they fell so fast."

Got 'Sandy' & 'Rendezvous' yesterday as well. Not listened to them so much yet, but "It'll Take A Long Time" is such a beautiful opener on 'Sandy'.

No-one see the film of Sandy performing "Late November" on that "Singer/Songwriters at the BBC" programme? Apparently the only existing film of solo Sandy Denny in the Beeb archives.

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Yeah. Wow, one of those "stop!" moments.

Apparently, there's three tracks in that session, the audio is on that 19CD (or whatever) set but I guess there's no DVD included.

I hope they still have all three performances on film... but it's the BBC so they probably only have the one

They probably have all of it, but getting them to play it....

http://www.youtube.com/v/0Rd_gMrmf6g&fs=1&hl=en

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^^staggering

I stand corrected re: that interview from 2 years ago (which is still in the link), it is Fairport not Fotheringay, from November 1974.

I like "Friends" from Old Fashioned Waltz -- always wondered who that song was about?
i recently found out this song is about pete townshend

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm7ajjCeBF1qfc2jno1_400.png

amateurist never did come clean on his sandy denny flip-flop

― omar little, Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:33 PM (3 years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCUwyh72o04&feature=youtu.be

nice, what is that from -- the original sandy denny?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51f%2BgiF-yQL._SS500_.jpg
didn't know this was coming out
Digitally remastered and expanded deluxe two CD edition of the late British Folk singer's 1971 debut solo album. Disc One contains the original album plus four bonus tracks including the previously unreleased instrumental version of 'Lord Bateman'. Disc Two contains 12 bonus tracks including five demo versions of songs which were previously only available in her lavish 19 CD box set plus BBC recordings and live tracks. Universal.

awesome. just listening to this on spotify for the first time, what an album.

yesss, it is great.

Oh that is fantastic news!

So pleased that the box set tracks are beginning to surface. It goes for upwards of £1000 now, which is utterly ridiculous.

There should be an ILM early warning thread called "Buy this now or puke money later" or something about things like Sandy's box set. Still not sure I would've bought it but I'd have considered it harder.

I had no idea that it was going to disappear quite like it did. I'm not sure how many they made in the end, but I doubt it was many (I'd be very surprised at 1000 & would guess more like a couple of hundred), perhaps because it was realised to be all a bit lavish & expensive to produce.

At least it looks like we might be getting the pick of the extra material from it in a more realistically accessible form.

Here's the track-listing...

Disc 1

Late November
Blackwaterside
The Sea Captain
Down In The Flood
John The Gun
Next Time Around
The Optimist
Let's Jump The Broomstick
Wretched Wilbur
The North Star Grassman And The Ravens
Crazy Lady Blues
Next Time Around (Demo)
Walking The Floor Over You (Duet with Richard Thompson)
Lord Bateman (previously unreleased instrumental)
If You Saw Thru My Eyes (Duet with Ian Matthews)

Disc 2

The Sea Captain (Rare demo)
The Optimist (Rare demo)
Wretched Wilbur (Rare demo)
Crazy Lady Blues (Rare demo)
Lord Bateman (Rare demo)

Late November (BBC Session - Bob Harris 24/8/71)
The Lowlands Of Holland (BBC Session - Bob Harris 24/8/71)

Blackwaterside (BBC session - Sounds on Sunday 14/11/72)

The North Star Grassman And The Ravens (BBC In Concert - Paris Theatre 16/3/72)
Bruton Town (BBC In Concert - Paris Theatre 16/3/72)
Next Time Around (BBC In Concert - Paris Theatre 16/3/72)
John The Gun (BBC In Concert - Paris Theatre 16/3/72)

Yikes, $32 for the import - I may have to stick with my old non-remastered CD.

yeah pricey, all those kinks deluxe-os are priced similarly. amazon sellers seem to have new copies for $20 tho. think i need this. the bonus disc looks amazing.

All those Universal deluxe editions should come in at £14.99 or even £15.99 RRP, at least at first. They'll come down eventually.

never saw this clip before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfQmRTZYVrE

what was my sandy denny flip flop mentioned above?

i downloaded that giant box set. it is impressive.

is there a consensus favorite among her solo LPs? i'm partial to like an old fashioned waltz -- have been for 15 years.

Old Fashioned Waltz for me too.

"Sandy" for me. But it was the first one I heard, so that might be why.

This version of "No End" from the remastered version of Old Fashioned Waltz is absolutely stunning & something I always return to... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2PxjBSgFmk

i have to admit that several of the songs on the 1st album (north star grassman) kind of float by in a pretty-folky way. a lot of her stuff has that problem for me.

I think it's that there is too much even on one modern CD to take in, on one sitting.

My advice is to take each LP side quantity at a time.

man, the sandy denny reissue cavalcade continues
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512gqecOIzL.jpg
Here’s a new, previously unreleased and intriguing set of Sandy recordings from early in her career. They were made on a Saturday night, 5 August 1967, at the home of the Scottish folk singer Alex Campbell, at 19 Rupert Street, Glasgow, where Sandy was staying. Also in the house that night were Alex’s partner Patsy and a Danish folk enthusiast, Carsten Linde, who had become friends with Campbell while he was performing in Denmark, and had arrived with a new tape recorder, which he turned on as the evening developed into a good-natured song session. http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/rj8r

anyone heard this? is it stuff that's never been bootlegged?

Like an Old Fashioned Waltz [Island, 1974]

Five years ago, Denny sang lead with the progenitors of English folk-rock, Fairport Convention. Soon, however, she left-to-pursue-her-own-career. The group remained interesting enough to hold a following, but never broke through artistically or commercially, and although credible observers believed Denny had the stuff to become one of the finest women singers in the world, she didn't. One four-minute masterpiece on this otherwise sluggish album--the opening cut, written by Denny, called "Solo"--deals obliquely with these losses. Now one hears that Fairport and Denny are regrouping. And so are Steppenwolf and John Kay.

C+

^^^ lol & <3 @ omar's long-running xgau hate

really wish sandy & linda thompson did a duets record back in the day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTVDvwduVnk

sandy denny kinda morning today. that 19 Rupert St. thing is pretty charming, a great "she moves through the fair." sound is lo-fi, but listenable. basically like hanging out w/ sandy and friends for an hour in 1967.
fotheringay 2 has some great stuff on it too, though there are a few non-Sandy leads I could do without. the "sliver threads/golden needles" cover is breathtaking.

sandy would've been 65 today! crazy, does not seem very old, but she's been gone so long.

2011 was a big Denny year for me. So great to the demos of stuff off Rendezvous

yes, those are fab!
posted this live show from 1973 last week - http://ow.ly/8kRQ5

another clip from that fotheringay show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=00hpupoh4eU

Downloading now. Always mean to check your blog more regularly dude, the stuff you post here is generally great

Thank you tyler, I didn't know of the anniversary today.

With love to Sandy Denny.

So did the recent expanded reissues contain material NOT in the huge 19CD box set?

i think all of the extra stuff is already on that big box...?

That's my take on it too.

of course that 19 rupert st. disc mentioned above isn't on the big box.

True that. I found the Rupert St. album really interesting to hear.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/82723dfc20553d5b5a666e94b3d476c9/tumblr_mg2i2jBlp91qzb1cjo1_500.jpg
i got that new-ish rarities set for xmas. haven't really listened to it yet, but i'm sure i'll love it.

oh hey

http://www.numerogroup.com/products/sandy-denny-the-strawbs-all-our-own-work

nice -- the "two weeks last summer" from that one is so nice.

the only track from it that I know is "Sail Away To The Sea" which is all time, excited for this

oh yeahhhh, that one is amazing too

i need to get a copy of that record

New Fotheringay box set + "reunion":

http://www.folkradio.co.uk/2015/03/fotheringay-to-tour-uk-with-new-lineup/

How come nobody has mentioned "Banks Of The Nile"?