"Saturday Night Fever" was never made or released

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What would have happened to disco then?

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Moroder.

Tom, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It might've survived longer - disco was thriving in the mainstream pre-Saturday Night Fever, but the movie and especially the soundtrack made the genre unavoidable leading to disco crossovers by everyone from Elton John to Ethel Merman and a big backlash. No Saturday Night fever - no overexposure, maybe disco doesn't die. Of course you can argue that disco never died, it just turned into electro, etc. but try telling that to all the disco acts who suddenly lost their record deals sometime in the early '80s.

J Blount, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

..in other words, longer lasting and better?

I can't objectively answer this question, as my first memories of music obsessiveness was listening to the SNF 8-track on repeat for weeks upon weeks... if anything to hear "Calypso Breakdown". But looking back now, SNF seems to have served disco -- the phenomenon -- its overdose. "Can't Stop The Music" provided the clown-colored nails in the coffin.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Can't Stop the Music" is the overdose!

J Blount, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Another disco movie would have been made, naturally. And was made. "Thank God It's Friday." But that was never a hit, was it?

nathalie, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Can't Stop the Music" is the overdose!

As far as the Village People's career goes, you're certainly correct. But I can't agree in relation to disco. The phenomenon was already withering away by 1980, and "Can't Stop The Music" just kinda blew it an extra gust of wind into the grave.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OK, so SNF was never released, and disco never supernova'd. What would've taken its place in the ecology of pop hype? New wave? Punk? Nu-prog?

Another question. Without disco's ubiquity, would we have gotten all that rad late-seventies/early eighties punk-disco fusion?

The only truly important upshot of SNF's non-existence: John Travolta fades into semi-oblivion, except for cameos in Moby videos and 1-800 commercials.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Travolta toils in semi-obscurity as a sitcom actor whose career is never rejuvinated, seeing as how Tarantino never exists. But True Romance is never made, and Patricia Arquette goes into hardcore porn.

JM, Monday, 29 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So that's what Lost Highway's about!

J Blount, Wednesday, 1 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, Mulholland Drive, surely.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
http://home.scarlet.be/~bliek/carwash.jpg

jody von bulow (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

30 years old this winter.
gene siskel's favourite ever film.
a pop MEAN STREETS?
the best clubbing movie ever made?

thoughts?

pisces, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

It's a fantastic film. The more time goes on the more I'm amazed something like it was ever made.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

first R-rated flick I ever snuck into...

henry s, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Deluxe DVD on the way

C. Grisso/McCain, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

i'm astonished it's not been talked about more on ilm/ ilx.

pisces, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Will that DVD have anything more not on the current one?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

Here are the Extras announced for the set...

.Commentary by director John Badham (used on previous DVD)
.Catching the Fever
.A 30-Year Legacy
.Making Soundtrack History
.Platforms & Polyester
.Deejays & Discos
.Spotlight on Travolta
.Back to Bay Ridge
.Dance Like Travolta with John Cassese
.Fever Challenge!
.70’s Discopedia

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pisces, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm. I think I'll stick with the one I have. (Badham's commentary isn't the greatest but it has some good details.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

It'd be cool if the alternate (PG-rated) scenes were included as extras on the disc! (The filmmakers shot alternate takes of all foul-mouthed scenes, with the language cleaned up, in anticipation of future TV broadcasts. I know of no other film that's ever gotten the same treatment.)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

I think the PG version had a theatrical release at the same time as the R, because the week after I saw it I was talking about some of the R parts with kids who had seen the movie but not those scenes.

dad a, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

it did indeed. check it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Saturday_night_fever_pg_version_movie_poster.jpg

pisces, Thursday, 19 July 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

No Saturday Night fever - no overexposure, maybe disco doesn't die.

OTMaybe. i think the rec co's were clueless abt how to promote/market disco and would've reduced it to a fad and courted overexposure w/o SNF. their resistence to 12-inch singles & insistence on filling stores w/disco LPs was rigid and still would've led to the crash of 1979.

or maybe the BeeGees Sgt Pepper film would've become a big hit!!!

m coleman, Thursday, 19 July 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

xpost: nice, thanks!

dad a, Thursday, 19 July 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

i thought this thread was going to be some sort of "the moon landing was faked" conspiracy theory

s1ocki, Thursday, 19 July 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

What if "Capricorn One" was never made or released?

dad a, Thursday, 19 July 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

what if can't stop the music was never made or released?

s1ocki, Thursday, 19 July 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

what if chinese Democracy was never made or released?

Mark G, Thursday, 19 July 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

what were the other rip-offs that are often mentioned in a sweep? were that really that many? let's see...

can't stop the music
thank god it's friday

others?

pisces, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CY6M5B5TL._SS500_.jpg

m coleman, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/pic/153/421579~The-Last-Days-of-Disco-Posters.jpg

"Disco will never be over -- it will always live in our minds and hearts. Something like this, that was this big and this important and this great, will never die. Oh, for a few years, maybe many years it will be considered passé and ridiculous. It will be misrepresented in caricature and sneered at. Or worse, completely ignored. People will laugh about John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John, white polyester suits and platform shoes and going like this. [does John Travolta's Saturday Night Fever pose]
Well, we had nothing to do with those things and still loved Disco. Those who didn't understand will never understand; Disco was much more, and much better than all that. Disco was too great and too much fun to be gone forever, it's got to come back some day. I just hope it will be in our life times."

-- The Last Days of Disco

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

Young punks have far less reason to deny their disco roots and consequently punk crosses over with disco to a far greater extent, more like it did with reggae.

KC & The Sunshine band and Hamilton Bohannon tour the UK supporting The Clash.

After quitting the Sex Pisols, John Lydon records a series of albums with Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards.

The Slits are heralded as the most successful girl band of all time as they enjoy worldwide success througout the '70's, '80's and '90's with their ubiquitous "Typical Girl Power" slogan and an unprecedented run of hit singles and multi-platinum selling albums.

Orange Juice regularly tour the world, where renditions of each of their innumerable hit singles are always received with rapturous applause by stadia packed with adoring fans.

U2 also tour the UK for several months every summer, where their covers of popular hits by successful bands like Delta 5, Josef K, Gang Of 4 and Scritti Politti are usually received with complete indifference by the pissed-up holiday-makers who happen to be propping up the bar in the holiday camp at the time. They still have a few copies of "Three" for sale, if you ask any of the members of the band after the performance.

After Ian Curtis commits suicide, the remaining members of Joy Division start experimenting with drum machines and synthesisers and.... OK, maybe I'd better quite here before this starts getting stupid.

Stewart Osborne, Friday, 20 July 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)

roller boogie looks either great or so-bad-it's-good. which is it?

pisces, Friday, 20 July 2007 10:07 (eighteen years ago)

so bad it's good. Linda Blair was cute. There's a cool chase scene and I like the title theme.

C. Grisso/McCain, Friday, 20 July 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)


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