2007 Idolator Pop Critics Poll site is up

I wanted to read the poll but got distracted by this

http://m1.2mdn.net/viewad/1289736/1-lilo_300x250fixed.jpg

In 2005 the Voice Pazz and Jop poll was based on 795 ballots, In 2006 the 1st Idolator Jackin Pop poll was based on 503 ballots, Pazz & Jop was based on 494 ballots, and this year Idolator's 2nd poll was based on 454 ballots. Are we talking voter burnout with the decreased numbers?

that's such a funny pic!!!

nice job on those artist renditions. James Murphy, mmmmm.

mix cd thing is a great idea

Burnout? Maybe. It was a honor to vote, but I wasn't overly enthused about it.

James Murphy, mmmmm.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:1

The 2007 Idolator Pop Critics Poll site is up. A-huh-huh-huh-HUH.

big hoos i voted you artist of the year

they don't know

This is excellent. Kala is number 2, "Atlas" is number 6, "Lip Gloss" was 13!!!

guys this music poll is really fucking interesting.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/47/2008/01/thumb300x_radiohead.jpglol

how could it not be interesting -- 3/4ths of ILM voted!

134 Studio - West Coast 58 6
141 Studio - Yearbook 1 55 5

;_;

The style that those pictures are done in makes me irrationally angry. I think it maybe reminds me of "The Believer" or something similar that I just cannot get down with.

I'm the only person who voted for Metro Area's "Read My Mind"?

mostly i'm just bummed that - somehow - my votes weren't counted. ah well.

Why the fuck is everyone on "All My Friends"'s dick? Is it a coke thing?

It's a Steve Reich thing. I voted for Sufjan in 2005, too.

Why the fuck is everyone on "All My Friends"'s dick? Is it a coke thing?

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:33 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

^^^ 8080

def a coke thing

at least a handful of people voted for Sightings! that feels like a good thing.

that's why 'all my friends' has been #1 on the charts in colombia for 9 straight months

That Sightings album was very good. It was in the running for me.

FRIEND!

if somehow my P&J votes got lost too, the cosmos has spoken to me. but what's it saying, huh?!?

It's a Steve Reich thing.

So... definitely coke. Gotcha.

i just watched/listened to all my friends for the first time...it kind of reminds me of the killers's first song off sam's town with a heroes by bowie jones. pretty good.

i guess maybe a dude's turning 40 angst resonates with a bunch of dude's turning 30 angst??

Why the fuck is everyone on "All My Friends"'s dick? Is it a coke thing?

It's a mystery to me...but I've entertained that theory at one time or another.

yeah i heard that song once and my reaction was mostly "wtf i thought this band was supposed to be dance music, this sounds like the strokes" (xpost)

somehow i totally avoided hearing this song until just this second (i'm watching/listening on youtube). it's a good song. what i've heard from LCD hasn't interested me very much, but this is a good song. it kind of sounds like a new order song, doesn't it?

the first three minutes of the video are atrocious, though, unbearable.

is there a better way to browse the individual ballots than going page after page? there's no way i'm going to make it past the D's otherwise.

(ballot clearinghouse post will be up soon)

(ps thanks everyone)

I'm working on a full link-list of ballots right now

haha xpost

haha mindmeld!!!

cool! the individual ballots are usually my favorite part about year-end lists.

I don't think my efforts (or Matos's) to get more specialist music critics to contribute to the poll paid off too well. Michelangelo, thanks for your eforts and for dealing with my pestering Tim Finney's comment from that critics poll 2007 thread seems apt-

I think a lot of "specialist" music crits just don't feel like they're part of some global conversation about the state of popular music each year, so would not see the purpose of contributing to Metacritic or J&P etc.

It's not necessarily a question of alienation or disenfranchisement, though that can be involved too.

It's a curiosity of rock critics that they routinely forget their own genre-focused context and assume they are speaking for and about music at large.

The "positive" flipside is that rock crit polls are probably more diverse than, say, dance crit polls, even if it only serves to reinforce a certain vein of token-eclecticism as being "the state of music today".

-- Tim F, Monday, December 17, 2007 10:16 PM (4 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

that should read: efforts and for dealing with my pestering.

"All My Friends" is okay. I don't get the rapturous response to it.

aw, c'mon, you guys are specialists, you just specialize in being corny indie fux0rs

OTM

(about "us", that is)

"All My Indie Fuxors."

"All My Fucking Annoying Piano"

does he sing "like a sales force into the night???"

That's pretty cool imagery actually. Were they given lances and shields?

Great tune, happy to see it and the album do so well.

Ann Powers from the LA Times voted, but none of the NY Times critics voted (I guess the NY Times doesn't allow them to vote). If the NY Times critics had voted K. Sanneh could have given rapper Turf Talk a 3rd vote in the album list!

(Actually, the vocal in "North American Scum" always makes me think of Gordon Gano from the Violent Femmes, for some reason. But really I guess it's just Jonathan Richman, with a cold in his nose.)

when lcd dude puts out a record as good as XL 1 lemme know. let alone homosapien.

although as a single yeah was as good as XL 1 was as an album.

Oh man, I could totally see Gano doing that song.

The 1983 Pazz & Jop Critics Poll
26. Violent Femmes: Violent Femmes (Slash) 177 (18)

You have to hand it to James McMurphy though - it takes a certain amount of packaging genius to build a music career out of one fairly mundane observation: Minimal, repetitive dance music sounds like minimal, repetitive punk rock, and vice versa.

I sort of hear a similarity, but Shelley blew Murphy out of the water on hooks and vocal personality alone, no contest.

yeah. i like "north american scum" a lot, but it kept nagging at me until after a month or two i figured out it was reminding me of "homosapien" (which i love -- that whole album is underappreciated).

I love "Homosapien," but why compare the songs? What do they have in common besides a similar vocal melody? Their intentions and achievements are SO different.

true. "north american scum" is my favorite patriotic song of the last however many years.

(pazz and jop poll is up now too, but maybe that gets its own thread...)

No one cares.

The only info seems to be that LCD won albums, Winehouse won singles.

Or not, rather, it just seems to be hiding in shame.

Modest Mouse 0-for-2 ;_; ;_; x_x

27
Soulja Boy "Crank That (Soulja Boy)"
Interscope

SUPERMAN!

Like a phoenix from the ashes!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1091/852383029_9eeb4314d4.jpg

YUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAA!

SOULJA BOY UP IN THIS POOOOOLL

WATCH ME CRANK AND WATCH ME POLL

WATCH ME CRANK THE 27TH SINGLES SPOT AND SUPERMAN THIS POLL

YOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUU! CRANK THAT PAZZ & JOP

SOULJA BOY UP IN THIS POLL
WATCH ME LEAN AND WATCH ME POLL
SUPERMAN TIMBALAND AND KERI HILSON
AND ALSO BAT FOR LASHES

I'MA PASS TO WILCO AND THEY GONE CRANK IT UP SOME MO

SUPERSOAK THAT BROOCE

GIRLS ARE IN THEIR SUMMER CLOOOOOOTHES

OH I THINK BRIGHT EYES MAD
CUZ I GOT ME THE 27TH SINGLES POSITION IN PAZZ AND JOP '08

GIRLS ARE IN THEIR SUMMER CLOOOOOOOTHES
PANDA BEAR AND ALL HIS BROOOOOOOOOOOOS
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT LOVE IS YOU JUST DO WHAT YOU'RE TOOOOOOOOOOLD

GUI BORATTO LOOKIN AT MY POLL
SAYIN THIS THE PAZZ AND JOP MAAAAAAAN

SUPER FRESH NOW WATCH ME JOC
JOCIN' ON THEM JENS LEKMAN

NO YOU CANT DO IT LIKE ME
HO SO DONT DO IT LIKE ME
MAN THE SHINS WERE UGLY

this is the part where we realize we've exhausted the one verse and bridge

by exhausted i mean parodied every line in the song

I can't wait to do this next year with "Yahhh"

I love you all.

No Vampire Weekend, no cred-

ABURBADAHGAH!!!!

If you don't do that live at some point during EMP I am going to be severely disappointed.

I think you are going to be severely disappointed.

DAMMIT

35th annual pazz and jop

i wish i was a mod so i could yahh up that thread title

pazz and jyaaahp

nice essay Whiney!

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop07/0804,weingarten,78905,.html

Stats thread: Idolator / Pazz & Jop music-poll collation and stats

Thx, Bee!

xp

Whatever happened to the demographic info? Did any use come of that?

>>>Wow, did Bill Holdship, onetime Creem and Musician magazine contributor, and current music editor at the Detroit Music Times really just vote for 2 albums, Springsteen and Winehouse, and nothing else (no other albums, tracks, reissues, etc.)

Wow, no, Bill Holdship (that would be me) voted for 10 albums, reissues, etc. -- everything that he was supposed to vote for in every category. In the middle of voting, the screen froze on me and then the ballot was locked. I tried to log back in for hours...and it wouldn't let me in. I alerted Mr. Matos to this fact the following morning...but was informed that the voting was now closed. I pointed out to him that I'd been locked out before voting closed and couldn't get back in for hours. He then told me he had my ballot...so I was shocked when my list was published with just two choices. Since the Village Voice poll was due the same day -- and since I'd already published a list in Metro Times two weeks prior to the Idolator poll -- it would be easy to determine that I did indeed vote for more than two albums.

Wow, though, curmudgeon, thanks for your interest in me...

>>>Bill Holdship picked just Springsteen and Winehouse. Both could be cases of accidentally locking the ballot before they were through

Exactly...

I note, for the record, that my combined version corrects for this:

http://www.furia.com/all-idols/2007/628.html

FREE BILL HOLDSHIP!

Three critics voted for that Herbie Hancock album!

Herbie is another good example of poll-skew. 1 Idolator-only voter, 2 dual-poll voters, 9 Voice-only voters!

The Dean's take.

http://www.najp.org/articles/2008/02/fact-is-one-reason-i-1.html