"Definite" remasters not using the original cover C/D?

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Dud, obv. But why? I mean, stuff like "Electric Ladyland". Why don't they dare using the correct cover for that one? I mean, the Blind Faith one does, and the women on "Electric Ladyland" were all legal age anyway.

Also see "We're Only In It For The Money", or was that group pic actually the original cover rather than the "Sgt. Pepper" parody?

Geir Hongro, Friday, 18 January 2008 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

It so definitely was, Geir.

Ioannis, Friday, 18 January 2008 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I guess the mistake was made in 1968 then :)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 18 January 2008 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Zap coudn't get the 'permission' off PaulMc, the reason given was "It's not up to me to tell the people who look after it "Hey it's OK I say so"

Mark G, Friday, 18 January 2008 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Of course, Zappa was daft enough to ask. How many have done it since?

Mark G, Friday, 18 January 2008 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

Weird Al Yankovic apparently learned always to go straight to the composer when he wanted to parady something. He asked Ray Davis' publisher for permission to record his version of "Lola" (named "Yoda") and got a "no". When, a few years later, he asked Ray Davis why, Davis said he had never heard of it, and he let Yankovic record it.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 18 January 2008 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

the 'women cover' of EL wasnt hendrixs idea - it was the guys at track who decided to run with that one. he never liked it.

mr x, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

Original:

http://www.darla.com/images/product/p11143.JPG

Remaster:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/514RD8DZ0EL._AA240_.jpg

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

The original still appears on all but the Rev-Ola release, actually. I know which I prefer.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Ray Davis?

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 18 January 2008 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

Phonetic spelling.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 18 January 2008 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Weird Al's milkman.

Mark G, Friday, 18 January 2008 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

(xpost)

Mark G, Friday, 18 January 2008 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

Is Definite a reissue label or something?

Colonel Poo, Friday, 18 January 2008 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

Sister label to Infinite Zero.

Didn't they change up the cover to Blank Generation?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 18 January 2008 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

I could take it or leave it.

Mark G, Friday, 18 January 2008 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Why shouldn't they remaster the cover as well? (as long as the original one is somewhere in the booklet, I don't mind)

http://i13.tinypic.com/8awnvhf.jpghttp://i9.tinypic.com/6kszyf7.jpg

StanM, Friday, 18 January 2008 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe not quite a "canon act", but the first three albums by Barclay James Harvest are just pictured lying on a table with several other things on the remaster covers.

Also, there's the new "Piper At The Gates Of Dawn", which I believe has actually been remastered twice (the previous one was just the mono version) without using the original cover.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 18 January 2008 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

That "My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts" one looked more like the original on the inside of that pointless paper box. But still not entirely similar.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 18 January 2008 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

I am not sure if Scorpions' "Virgin Killer" has been remastered yet. But if it has, then I am pretty sure it doesn't have the original cover....

Geir Hongro, Friday, 18 January 2008 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

orig:
http://991.com/newgallery/Virgin-Prunes-If-I-Die-I-Die-127224.jpg

re-re-master (there was one in between which was also slightly different):
http://www.virginprunes.com/archives/iidid-artwork-large.jpg

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 19 January 2008 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

"Also see "We're Only In It For The Money", or was that group pic actually the original cover rather than the "Sgt. Pepper" parody?"

The entire cover was intended as a parody of the cover for The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. The fold-out cover for Sgt. Pepper had a collage of famous people by Peter Blake on the outside front, a picture of the group with one member facing away from the camera on the back, and a head-shot portrait of the band on the inside. Zappa originally intended to use the cover as one would expect--front cover on the front, back cover on the back, and the inside group head-shot on the inside--but Zappa's record company demurred and turned the cover inside-out for release, putting the most blatant Sgt. Pepper parody (front cover very similar in its production; back cover showing a picture of the group with only one member facing toward the camera) on the inside and the head-shot portrait pastiche of the band on the outside. A later Rykodisc release on CD featured the original photo restored to the front cover, but minus the group headshot. This CD release combined this album with "Lumpy Gravy". In 1995, Zappa authorized the rerelease of the original cover art with the headshot along with the original Verve records mix - as "Lumpy Gravy" was also reissued on its own with its original cover art and Verve Records mix. Next to Zappa's head on the head-shot portrait, a speech bubble has him questioning, "Is this phase one of Lumpy Gravy?". On the back cover of Lumpy Gravy, a speech bubble shows Zappa questioning "Is this phase 2 of We're Only in It for the Money?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We're_Only_in_It_for_the_Money

Stewart Osborne, Saturday, 19 January 2008 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

all MoFi cd releases have cropped covers which is just completely bizarre to me; why fuck up the artwork like that when everything else about the album is done to perfection?

akm, Saturday, 19 January 2008 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

Typical Frank fiddling: he goes to the trouble of restoring the original albums and cover art and then puts a dumb joke on top.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 19 January 2008 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

stupid Brian Eno remasters with their ugly frames surrounding the original art. what were they thinking?

sleeve, Saturday, 19 January 2008 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

They were probably thinking "how will people know these are different from the original? We don't want an ugly "REMASTERED" sticker on the cover, what else can we do?"

StanM, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

The fact that those Eno remasters came in cases that were nowhere like anything else in the shops ought to be enough to tell people they are new editions.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

Crammed Records' Global Soundclash series do a slightly different thing: each CD reissue's cover illustration is a photograph of someone holding up a copy of the LP.
http://www.crammed.be/crammed/graphics/soundclash/C101p.jpg
I don't know if any of these were remastered.

Øystein, Saturday, 19 January 2008 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

The remasters of the first three Barclay James Harvest albums do roughly the same thing. But they are remasters, and the covers they show are the originals.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 20 January 2008 01:36 (eighteen years ago)

Example:
http://www.bjharvest.co.uk/jpg/once.jpghttp://www.bjharvest.co.uk/jpg/oncerem.jpg

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 20 January 2008 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

Well in that case: 70s Salsa (was The Fania Label 1970-1980: S/D)

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 20 January 2008 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

Classic.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 20 January 2008 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

Heh, never has there been a more appropriate remastered re-released title than Once Again.

Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 20 January 2008 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

I love the Crammed releases, partly because it's a clever idea and partly because they have the good sense to put that image on the outer cardboard sleeve and leave the original art alone for the CD booklet. What about:

http://assets4.pitchforkmedia.com/images/image/42883.odelay.jpg?

That's either EYE or a very good fake- he's done Beck cover art twice before. And presumably the "scribbling" will be on the outer plastic slipcase that this line of "Deluxe Editions" come in.

Telephone thing, Sunday, 20 January 2008 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

The Michelangelo estate gave him legal trouble over the first one.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 20 January 2008 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

The current edition uses the first one though, doesn't it.

The very first pressings of "Switched On Bach" had an alternative cover where Bach didn't like those "weird" sounds coming out from his headphones, but that cover was dropped at an early stage (Carlos never liked it), and thus it cannot be said there is anything wrong about the remaster not using it either.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 20 January 2008 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

In 1995, Zappa authorized the rerelease of the original cover art with the headshot along with the original Verve records mix

He authorized it from beyond the grave?

Tuomas, Sunday, 20 January 2008 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

I wondered about the same thing too. There was no more Zappa in 1995....

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 20 January 2008 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

You know how those workaholic control freaks are- they never give up.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 20 January 2008 14:25 (eighteen years ago)


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