blaze: overrated or what?

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90% shit, right?

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

"lovelee dae"
"my beat"
"fantasy"
"we are one"
"most precious love"
"if you should need a friend"

are gold, but they've rounded that out by filling up 8-9 albums worth of dross, right?

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, prove me wrong, point me in the right direction, etc

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

yeah that's a pretty opinionated title for a s&d thread. care to define dross in this particular case? those gospel & soul influences not lining up w/yr gritty ghetto fantasies?

also search: "sapporo", "elevation", "found love", "how deep is your love", "when I fall in love", "what we need is love"... from a quick & not 100% informed look at 21st century releases, there are 15 more years.

destroy: the odd bland techno version, a few remixes produced on autopilot like that "new" björk thing- now that's what I call dross.

blaze deliver an awesome live experience as well, book them for a dj gig and they'll play keyboards + sing on top. fund the entire orchestra and god knows what happens!

blunt, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

"get up" from the 25 years later album was an earlyish soul/house track i fell in love with. "moonwalk" from the blaze tracks ep released on nuphonic is nice and deep and was featured on garnier's laboratoire mix. their shelter mixes of mondo grosso's "star suite" are epic and great, a vocal with monday michiru's poetry for the hippies and an instrumentalish for the headz. all worth checking.

or something, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

and the first collabs with louie vega up until & esp. "sunshine" = classic!

blunt, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

"jess & crabbe: do they even exist?" thread coming soon to a forum near you

blunt, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'll always stand by the vinyl version of 25 Years later, freed from those irritating "dramatic interludes" on the CD version, and "So Special" in particular... but since then? Patchy at best.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

I don't have their phase II stuff from 1988 : (
I have the "funky people" originals&remixes : )

blunt, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

dj crabbe did all of the handstyles on the crydamoure labels

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

but it looks like they formed some kind of screamo / no wave band? casualties of electroclash.

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

dross means boring. i don't know what my "gritty ghetto fantasy" is but "if you should need a friend" ain't it, so please don't try to play that pseudo-race card here.

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

i actually wanted to do a "king street: overrated or what" but then i figured i'd just focus in on the main offenders.

also considering t/s: roy davis jr vs blaze but not sure if that made sense or not.

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

never been big on king st. (too many MOR vocals) except for the kerri chandler but they're looking good right now with several vega comps, ferrer at his best exposure & roland clark on the up who's been there from the start if not thanks to them.

blunt, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

no xeno

blunt, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

OK, so my dj partner plays "My Beat" and I hate it (hi Josh!). It sounds like Def Poetry Jam (although the music is good).

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

he plays the derrick carter remix

blunt, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds right.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha poetry

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

more like spoken turd, amirite

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

you're not wrong

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

the music's lovely though, maybe i should have put that in "quotation marks".

or something, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

whatcha gonna do?
why can't we live together?

both awesome

as well as if you should need a friend

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

but king street is really overrated. i almost always pass on their stuff.

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

also, paradise

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

"albums"?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:26 (eighteen years ago)

i dig out the 'basic blaze' lp from time to time:

http://www.discogs.com/release/2081

some of it is quite trancey (in a deep US house kind of way).

anyway, i like these guys for the most part.

sam500, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:25 (eighteen years ago)

there is a copy of blaze: the instrumentals project at the local store, USED for SIXTEEN DOLLARS.

talk about overrated!!

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:38 (eighteen years ago)

that is dumb. i don't think they have continued to make good music throughout their career. but their early stuff for quark records and movin' records is classic garage in the slower colonel abrams style (as opposed to the kerri chandler style).

oh and i forgot:
PHASE II - REACHIN'

one of my favorite house songs ever! so uplifting.

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:53 (eighteen years ago)

that PRICE is dumb, is what i meant, in case it wasn't clear. i don't imagine it will sell at that price.

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:53 (eighteen years ago)

but like, i bought the repress of Whatcha Gonna Do new for $8 in the fall! talk about underrated!

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:55 (eighteen years ago)

i would have paid ten, maybe eleven bucks for that. so i think they are dinosaurs who should make room for younger producers but i will always love blaze.

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:56 (eighteen years ago)

Reachin' is one of those special songs with drum fills that somehow manage to be emotional... i've heard it from chez damier and colonel abrams. i don't really understand it.

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:58 (eighteen years ago)

lol htought this was bout jus blaze

am0n, Friday, 25 January 2008 06:07 (eighteen years ago)

that took a while. hmm they are dinosaurs who should make room for younger producers? I don't know that they're standing in anyone's way

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 08:15 (eighteen years ago)

That Instrumentals Project thing linked upthread has spectacularly bad song titles. Celestine Prophecy being the worst offender.

Raw Patrick, Friday, 25 January 2008 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

you're right blunt. it was just bluster.

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

they have a track called "the yoga song" LOL

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

just visited a friend who began schooling me on blaze old & new. actually ahead of their time on several fronts, because of the way they integrated/cherry-picked disco, afro, soul and house production elements. I'll try to recall some highlights...

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

at any rate, 90% shit it ain't

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

first I thought it would sound dated but phase II and the early stuff on quark is remarkably fresh mid/late 90's house, and it's not silly or cheesy like a lot of releases were back then.

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

and then these cats released an album on motown in their early 20's. even the engineers clapped along.

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

then they largely helped establish the partly unfuckwithable shelter club record label.
I forgot to mention two of my fave blaze joints up there: the impossibly happy and breezy "breathe" and "lovely" (a simple acoustic guitar).

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

so the answer is vahid: wrong or what?

elan, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:24 (eighteen years ago)

well it's a blaze thread at least, dude just don't like (being) nice is all

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:30 (eighteen years ago)

search! kc flightt "let's get jazzy"

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

...for some original hip house that puts todd terry to shame. also thisrecent white label remixes doublepack if only for the deliberately paced, anthemic remix of "fantasy" which never strays too far from the earth, wind & fire original.

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:44 (eighteen years ago)

we are talking about JOSH MILAN & KEVIN HEDGE

blunt, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

desperately seeking googlers

blunt, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, cause blaze are superstars

elan, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

give it time.

blunt, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'd echo most of blunt's picks. I also like the Natural Blaze and Spiritually Speaking albums a lot, even if the latter can get indulgent. "Do You Remember House" is hilarious if you think of it as their version of "Losing My Edge".

Their comp of Playhouse productions was only available on Japanese import I believe, but it's very solid.

Also search: Wishing You Were Here (vocal and or dub), So Special, All That I Should Know

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

Their comp of Playhouse productions
I was just checking that online. listen here

blunt, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

"moonwalk" on that is another good 'un

blunt, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

d00dz i only start these threads because i want to be proven wrong

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:40 (eighteen years ago)

we're only joshing ya!

elan, Saturday, 26 January 2008 01:44 (eighteen years ago)

shit "moonwalk" was already mentioned sorry. here, have yourself a "directions" I haven't even heard yet but which has all the markings of a sound investment, on claussell's label.

blunt, Saturday, 26 January 2008 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

i'm actually not super-impressed with "moonwalk". it's nice but it doesn't stand head-and-shoulders above, say, your average late-90s british deep house track (whereas "my beat" and "lovelee dae" ...)

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:25 (eighteen years ago)

Lovelee Dae (Original)
Lovelee Dae (Radio Edit)
Lovelee Dae (20:20 Vision Main Mix)
Lovelee Dae (20:20 Vision Accapella)
Lovelee Dae (Beloved Surge Mix)
Lovelee Dae (Beloved Vocal Rmx)
Lovelee Dae (Carl Craig's 70 Degrees and Sunny Mix)
Lovelee Dae (Eight Miles High Mix)
Lovelee Dae (Eight Miles High Dub)
Lovelee Dae (Freaks Radioactive Dub)
Lovelee Dae (Freestyle Man Reconstruction)
Lovelee Dae (Friends Experiment Remix)
Lovelee Dae (Isolee remix)
Lovelee Dae (LoSoul Rest In Respect Mix)
Lovelee Dae (Pépé Bradock's Mix) (6:04)
Lovelee Dae (Swag's Primitive Dub)

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:32 (eighteen years ago)

your average euro deep house track does not feature inspired instrumental solos on top- mostly loops/gimmicks. or standard & flatly delivered moves. does the combined display of emotion & musicianship completely get over your head?

blunt, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:36 (eighteen years ago)

I mean you've learned to forget the brutal/banality of electronic music kick drums, you can semi-ignore the background strings, bass as well and feel someone playing their heart out to you!

blunt, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:38 (eighteen years ago)

are we talking about the same "moonwalk"?

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:38 (eighteen years ago)

the same one that's the worst song on nuphonic 01?

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

okay time to go dancing have fun guys

elan, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

have fun

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

young'n

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

;)

elan, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

it's an instrumental hence the extended soloing, great keys, mellow on the attack. admittedly v basic backdrop

blunt, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:49 (eighteen years ago)

good god that nuphonic comp is not exactly filler! best tracks on it are still US imports however.

blunt, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

"found love" is completely unfuckwithable. sounding so nice in this tropical sunshine, they seem to have endless good vibes to spread!

r1o natsume, Friday, 9 May 2008 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

Reachin' is one of those special songs with drum fills that somehow manage to be emotional...

Yes, I know exactly what you mean - the electronic toms rolling at various points, and the extended snare roll that introduces the first verse. Wonderful record.

dubmill, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 06:53 (fifteen years ago)

i miss moonship journey 2 baja ;_;

blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 07:03 (fifteen years ago)

i'm actually not super-impressed with "moonwalk". it's nice but it doesn't stand head-and-shoulders above, say, your average late-90s british deep house track (whereas "my beat" and "lovelee dae" ...)

― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:25 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

WHAT?

X-101, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

moonship journey to baja talk about techno again, for a pupil

what if "middlebrow" is pubes? (Matt P), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:14 (fifteen years ago)


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