Giorgio Moroder in the 1980's: What Of It Isn't Teh Suck?

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We all know Moroder's genius in the 1970's -- Donna Summer, From Here To Eternity, Sparks' incredible Number One In Heaven. The list goes on.

Then the 1980's appeared. Gone was the hyper eurodisco and in were hard rock guitars...a lot of them. And often, not in a good way. His work with Summer ended. His collaboration with Phil Oakey arrived perhaps two or three years too late. He did movie scores by the boatload -- from Flashdance to Over the Top. And he did an entire album with the inimitable Joe Esposito of "You're the best...AROUND!!" fame from Karate Kid (which I don't know if he produced).

But...but...there just may be some moments in there. Scarface, for one, has some great stuff (as one whole channel of Grand Theft Auto III's radio station reminded us), including a Debbie Harry song that is better than any track on her record with Chic. Metropolis I just downloaded -- some of it seems like it may well be atrocious, but I have fonder memories. And some love his Nina Hagen work.

So, ILM, what of Giorgio Moroder's 80's work, if any, is NOT teh suck?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

I really love "Together in Electric Dreams," man – it's the warmest thing Oakey's ever touched.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

Nina Hagen's Fearless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r5MBBRRn1Y

Milton Parker, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, the 12" of Zarah is amazing.

American Gigolo was 1980.

dan selzer, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

e=mc^2 is a good album! baby blue is a total jammer

69, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgpp30093+scarface-bw-machine-gun-pose-al-pacino-scarface-poster.jpg

Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

This = closest I get to a "guilty pleasure" as a kid

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000005RSU.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

I take that back. I liked the Chili Peppers as a kid, too. They win the GP. Also, Virginia Fucking Madsen and Bud Fucking Cort!

Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

virginia fucking madsen fucking bud fucking cort.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 31 January 2008 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

I really love "Together in Electric Dreams," man – it's the warmest thing Oakey's ever touched.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

such a great song

s1ocki, Thursday, 31 January 2008 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

e=mc2 too

s1ocki, Thursday, 31 January 2008 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

The Metropolis soundtrack is brilliant. I know nobody's supposed to like it.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 31 January 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, Nina Hagen's "Zarah" and "New York (N.Y)" are both stunners.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 31 January 2008 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

Cat People soundtrack and Midnight Express soundtrack get heavy, heavy subway play for me!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 31 January 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

I like his mid 80s sound. "Flashdance", "Together In Electric Dreams", "Neverending Story". All great!

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 31 January 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

Cat People/E=mc2/American Gigolo = all really superb. Never heard Scarface. I think he went downhill once he started going for a less synthetic production style (even though his earliest stuff wasn't too synthy).

Capitaine Jay Vee, Thursday, 31 January 2008 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

It wasn't until "Take My Breath Away" (which I have never liked) and "Hand In Hand" (vomit!) that he really started sounding less synthetic.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 31 January 2008 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

I should've noted that <i>E=MC2</i> was 1980 -- just barely, tho, since it was released in January 1980. For all intents and purposes, it's a 1970's album, but whatevs. <i>Midnight Express</i>, however, is 1978. So all praise aside, that doesn't count.

I should check out the Nina Hagen. Has anyone heard the Joe Esposito record?

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 February 2008 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

<sigh> BBcode...

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 February 2008 02:06 (eighteen years ago)

I LOVE "Take My Breath Away" ...don't know what people think about it.

daavid, Friday, 1 February 2008 02:36 (eighteen years ago)

"I LOVE "Take My Breath Away" ...don't know what people think about it.

-- daavid"

one of my all time favorite songs, its been listened to 40+ as i talked about in another thread a while back.

pipecock, Friday, 1 February 2008 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

I just discovered that the controversial 1984 "remake" of Metropolis, with the Pat Benetar and Jon Anderson(!) songs and color tint was actually Moroder's conception -- not just the soundtrack, but the whole project. Bizarre.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 February 2008 03:50 (eighteen years ago)

Yyyyyyyyyep. The whole thing. Some people HATE him for it, too. 'oh woe oh noes how dare you desecrate Lang's work with this popular effluent' etc etc. Just don't watch it ffs.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 1 February 2008 04:09 (eighteen years ago)

I like "Never Ending Story." A lot.

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 1 February 2008 04:47 (eighteen years ago)

But is anyone going to defend this? :
http://www.paxmusic.co.kr/html/images/2101904.jpg

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 February 2008 08:41 (eighteen years ago)

scarface was definitely the tipping point to crappness, the best over-coked end of the world theme and in essence the end of him being any good. I'm pretty sure take my breath away is completely synthetic, do you mean that it just doesnt have vocoders and robo arppegios?

I dressed up as moroder at halloween this year

straight, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:35 (eighteen years ago)

Sigue Sigue Sputnik.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:36 (eighteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure take my breath away is completely synthetic, do you mean that it just doesnt have vocoders and robo arppegios?

Mainly a matter of 80s synth technology, I guess. In the late 80s, you could use all synths and it didn't have to sound like synths were used at all. Damn PCM and FM synths!

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:45 (eighteen years ago)

in the 80s. faltermeyer stepped up and the Apprentice became the Master.

Hamildan, Friday, 1 February 2008 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

<i>I dressed up as moroder at halloween this year</i>

You must live in Brooklyn.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 February 2008 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

been listening to cat people quite a bit lately. great bits throughout.

andrew m., Friday, 1 February 2008 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

in the 80s. faltermeyer stepped up and the Apprentice became the Master.

At the time Faltermeyer had appeared on the scene, there were already some 20-30 English synthpop bands who had became the masters.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 February 2008 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

i love moroder's "fly too high" instrumental from the foxes soundtrack, but that's early 1980 too so i guess it don't count

winston, Saturday, 2 February 2008 00:52 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah I've been spinning the Cat People soundtrack a lot lately. Some really great tracks on there. My housemate is a dance/Dj guy (which I know nothing about) and he spotted a bunch of stuff that has been lifted/remixed from that record...

Nate Carson, Saturday, 2 February 2008 01:36 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

I bought the Foxes soundtrack yesterday and it's so awesome. 10 min "Valley of the Dolls" is my favorite part, and I could probably live without the Cher song, but the rest is solid gold. Can't believe there's a giant pic of Scott Baio on the inner gatefold and no picture of Cherie Currie. Guess she wasn't such a big star?

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:55 (fourteen years ago)

Scarface soundtrack is generally horrible but Debbie Harry's Rush Rush (presumably the song Naive Teen Idol meant) is fantastic.

Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:02 (fourteen years ago)

rush rush got the yayo

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:33 (fourteen years ago)

^^^ I hum this at least once a month.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:35 (fourteen years ago)

Push it to the Limit from the Scarface soundtrack, however, got too much yayo. It's snorting yayo off the dashboard while getting head.

Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:36 (fourteen years ago)

""I don't really have time for my old records," says Giorgio Moroder. "It's not that I don't like them, but if I listen for too long I get nervous."

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar98/articles/giorgio.html

geeta, Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:51 (fourteen years ago)

Man I had no idea that that one Cannibal Ox track is just a loop of "Leopard Tree Dream" from Cat People- whoah! I guess I need a latepass

the tune is space, Monday, 3 October 2011 00:03 (fourteen years ago)

Oh i guess there's lots of other stuff going on too. Here's the track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVeUQxi7960

the tune is space, Monday, 3 October 2011 00:07 (fourteen years ago)

Is there a Brad Fiedel thread?

Nate Carson, Monday, 3 October 2011 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

I may be the only Donna Summer fan on ILX who loves The Wanderer.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 October 2011 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAa81NCqFis

this starts off sounding a bit like transition music from barney miller, but that's not all bad i guess

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 00:33 (fourteen years ago)

hey, out in November! always liked it as a kid

http://www.amazon.com/Giorgio-Moroder-Presents-Metropolis-Special/dp/B005J7K950

piscesx, Monday, 3 October 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

oh god, i hate that version of 'Metropolis'. that soundtrack is the worst. Loverboy, for chrissakes. the worst.

i like the 'Metropolis' soundtrack that Jeff Mills did

geeta, Monday, 3 October 2011 01:10 (fourteen years ago)

Also, in response to Almanac, the problem people had with Moroder's Metropolis was if you were interested in Metropolis you couldn't just ignore it. At the time his version was the only version to feature many of the previously lost sequences and feature restoration work based off the A-print negatives. More than that, IIRC at the time he helped block other potential restorers from accessing the negative, preventing a more traditional restoration.

Jedmond, Monday, 3 October 2011 01:58 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Is there a thread for Angel? This song is bananas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTNqwk_mlLs

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 24 October 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

you realize their logo is the same upside down as right-side up

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 24 October 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

sorry for blowing your mind

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 24 October 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

whoa

they remind me of tamarins

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/23/article-1279874996998-0A889580000005DC-856536_636x399.jpg

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 24 October 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

"Angez"

This is what I see and say when I flip thru their many records at the flea markets

andrew m., Monday, 24 October 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

did they draw up the logo and then decide to form the band or what

(there is nothing wrong with this)

how do i shot slime mould voltron form (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 24 October 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)


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