What if the New Rock Revolution really WAS the 'New Punk'

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Libertines' narrative was never fully established though, other than as a kind of depressed indie kid fanfic/Manics times Mansun shit. Four years after they split up, nobody really knows/cares what they stood for, and there's a distinct fear from both fans and critics to actually *analyse* them.

I thought that the 90s pop show on bbc four with Caitlin Moran and Paulo "the Oasis loving Twit" Hewitt going on about dullard britpop had me cringing.

It had me thinking ten years from now - how would the misinformed story of music in the 00s be told from a moronic mainstream trad-indie NME narrowband viewpoint.

you can imagine McNicholas on a show like that in 2018.

what is the New Rock Revolution?

(serious question, i've never heard that in my life)

is this supposed to be a joke thread?

And why, again, do people like the Libertines?

New Rock Revolution kind of predated the Libertines a bit though didn't it? I thought that accounted for the 2002/early 03 period when the NME was kind of "wahey we've had the Strokes and the White Stripes now quick build on the momentum go go go ah shit we've only got The Vines and The Datsuns okay will this do?"

The Libertines took off because they were actually marketable, because like the Manics its the sort of faux-poetic concept that teenage indie kids want to buy into, and as soon as that happened bang you had the Killers and bang Franz Ferdinand and lots other other acts that coverted into actual chart success. So essentially the Libertines actually killed off 'New Rock Revolution' as a concept because the NME etc didn't feel the need to desperately hammer it home any more.

Never heard of it

I think it's a made-up thing.

ver libs were around in 2002 -- they were on the original nme compilation 'new rock revolution', although it's come to mean a bunch of bands who *weren't* on that. i'm basically using it to mean post-strokes brit indie.

It's not come to mean anything.

Okay put it the other way, regardless of what 'deserves' to be in there and what doesn't there is a reason why some (successful, well-selling, covered in NME) bands get written into the narrative of pop, and why others don't.

it's a LBZC meme.

"New Rock" is the tagline of a local ClearChannel station here that, while they do have new/local music shows and serve mostly a college audience, also have a "90s at Noon" show and play a lot of college rock. Obviously the new punk.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-New-Rock-Revolution/lm/1Z2TNIIKIQ029

Really scrapes the barrel at the bottom of that list.

this decade really has sucked

don't tase me bro!

what if punk was the New Rock Revolution of its day?

I was going to make some zingy comment here, but not necessary

DJ Martian would be posting a long list of prog bands and claiming we should be listening to them instead of the Sex Pistols?

.... isn't that what ILM is all about?

oh man kasabian! i remember a couple of E3's ago, every game company in the world was pumping that club foot song.

that band sux, but i tell ya what if i ever have to jump a crotchrocket thru a plate glass window while shooting machine guns, i want club foot playing

Great thread.

And why, again, do people like the Libertines?

My question: why do people hate the Libertines? Maybe if you're British you were inundated with those two pasty main dudes' sucking face in NME for a couple of years? I don't know... To be fair, I probably know like 6 of their songs, but they're all really pretty decent songs. At their worst they're just a boring guitar band. I guess I never understood why they became so emblematic of shitty new millennium rock.

(sorry for the off-topic post)

Some people hate "boring guitar bands"

true. but there's just so many worse, imho. I guess I was always confused about their whipping boy status.

Every once in awhile I forget that ILM is UK-based. Then I spot a thread like this and am reminded.

I was trying to think of a nice way to say that.

every once in a while i forget that nu-ilm is US-dominated. then i spot a christgau dick-riding contest and am reminded.

i never rode xgau's dick. well, actually maybe once in college but that was a long time ago.