"space battle techno": what is it?

tim is the answer

Smith & Hack's "Space Warrior"?

http://www.discogs.com/release/17033

if you have to ask

http://www.discogs.com/release/3621

http://www.discogs.com/release/93430

Dark Comedy - War Of The Worlds!!

IF YOU GONE CALL IT TECHNO KNOW WHAT TECHNO IS

I imagine minimal bleepy beats with loads of sci-fi film lazer zap effects over the top. In my imagination, this sounds great, in reality it would probably get boring really quickly.

I don't know what it would sound like in real life, but would be curious to hear a mix mp3

oh okay already

http://www.sendspace.com/file/liprms

(made from http://tones.wolfram.com/id/GgvwZLxVuCI5pDqmFBRnz75YG9o4WthufeEE4MnncWrEUkZvww)

(much more on the way)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kqy09t

I didn't intend to turn vahid's thread into a tombot dj dickride but apparently this is my subgenre and/or I just did up a few that fit in the last two weeks

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-302850-1098119147.jpg

Richard Bartz 'B1' + explosions.wav

side a of http://www.discogs.com/release/923312, essentially ash ra ca. ne age of earth gone techno

also essential:

http://www.discogs.com/release/1122641 and http://www.discogs.com/release/1107606

IMATRON VOIMA

nice music, Tom! thanks

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Third+Electric?noanv=1

although i have to say that third electric as well as some of Tom's stuff seems more like "space exploration" than an actual battle.. cruising at eight light-years per second, nearby displays flickering with contour maps of the neighborhood's plasma topology.. a moustachioed captain sitting alone in a corner, intently studying diagrams, playing absent-mindedly with a rosary, waiting for something that hasn't happened yet. into which category i'd also put "ginger" by speedy j.

So - any mixes?!

redshape ra podcast but that is all his own tracks i think

ha i was just coming back to ask if the redshape RA podcast was what people were talking about when they talked about this. that's one of my favourite mixes ever, so i could definitely do with more in a similar vane...

Toby have you seen Tim's '2007 that was' thread? Quite a few recommendations and tracks on there.

I think it needs to sound epic, bombastic, brutalist and largely shorn of anything that may be construed as hippy or loved up or anything else along those lines.

Also am I right in thinking, more synth-driven and not very percussive or funky?

i'd argue there's a vague hippy connection there if you trace it's lineage through house and techno back to 70s german synth epics. there's definitely a trace of gottsching and tangerine dream in some of redshape's more arpeggiator driven tracks, and alot of the synth washes you here in say that len faki track mentioned above are straight klaus schulze.

c2 remix of faze action 'in the trees' is the best of the bests i think.

Tombot your tracks are great but as Tracer says, maybe a bit too friendly for what we're talking about. I like 'space exploration techno' as well though.

I think this stuff needs to be a lot bigger, and maybe more evil or at least ominous sounding. The second half of this is sort of the sound I think of when someone says 'space battle techno'.

I don't know about the rest, but the Audion remix of Olga Dancekowski sounds exactly like it was composed of samples of an actual space battle.

sorry, i meant "IMATRAN VOIMA"

god I want that Tresor II comp

here's the kind of thing i feel Matt DC has in mind? i have an aiff version as well if anyone wants it.

Nitsch & Gleinser - "Etage (Comix Remix)"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8c0mrz

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Nitsch+&+Gleinser

holy crap Matt that 3rd Face track gets outrageous!

here's something very different in feel and more anticipatory of action rather than action itself, but there is a feeling of potential dread underneath it i think -- those far-away drums!!!

apologies for keeping on bigging up the same songs over and over again, i'm sure i've mentioned both of these tracks a million times before. i keep posting them though because they're essentially impossible to find.

Low Res - "Speculative Reminiscing"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/o7f1ny

Hi-Lo (& central records vienna austria)

Zander VT – Then & Before (Redshape Remix)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/69145811966207/
2007 wasn’t just about deep house revivalism, and there was a sub-trend of melodramatic, synthesiser-heavy tech-house tracks whose ridiculous sci-fi melodrama had me group them together under the banner “space battle techno”. Ink & Needle did several tracks in this vein, but my favourite remained Redshape’s remix of “Then & Before”, perhaps because of the way it draws out the exponential curve of its climaxing groove – spacey percussion and squirming riffs and apocalyptic strings that make me think of spaceships shifting into warp speed and stars stretching from pinpoints into lines. Except that the track just keeps spiralling towards ever higher and higher climaxes, so it’s like you’re speeding past stars whose line-of-light just keeps stretching further and further. One for everyone a bit “over” subtlety. (see also: Ink & Needle’s “Seven”, various Audion tracks and remixes)

Faze Action – In The Trees (Carl Craig Remix)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/697269001fbf07/
Whatever the trend was, Carl usually got there first. If his remix of Delia & Gavin’s “Revelee” helped (re?)initiate the space battle techno sound I described above, this unlikely remix of Faze Action’s old disco-revival classic was an unexpected pinnacle. Given the familiarity of the original, it remains such a shock (almost an illicit thrill) to be confronted by little more than a heavy throb of evil synthesisers, like a swarm of wasps marshalled to attack at random in time with a house beat. When those unmistakable disco strings finally come in, the menacing groove that surrounds them imbues their aristocratic refinement and dandyesque flair strange new sensations and implications – like the fine poetry that sends young people to war, they are at once a document of culture and of barbarism. (see also: Craig remixes of Siobhan Donaghy and Junior Boys)

quoting tim finney there

Craig/Redshape stuff too pattern-orientated/not random or relentless enough for this tag i would've thought

despite the fact the phrase was first coined to describe redshape

Not a single one of you truly understands space battle techno:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Planet+Core+Productions
http://www.discogs.com/label/Future+World
http://www.discogs.com/label/Cold+Rush+Records

ugh this thread

despite the fact the phrase was first coined to describe redshape

yes! i hear the space but not the battle

(tho bear in mind i have history of complaining about almost every dance genre tag ever)

ugh this thread

-- fandango, Sunday, March 2, 2008 2:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

^^

Steve this isn't a real genre tag, we're just playing around.

oh for god's sake you people, stop w/ the pointless recommendations

here's the brief:

i want stuff that sounds like REDSHAPE and RECENT CARL CRAIG REMIXES

ok?

matt dc: that's EXACTLY the sort of thing i want to hear

tracer: hmm that reminds me a lot of david caretta. very much french electro-techno.

you mean nitsch & gleinser i assume? i like it -- ultra space opera bombast -- but i think the second thing i posted, danny zelonky a.k.a. low res -- is possibly my favorite techno track of all time. you need to have a quality system or good headphones to properly hear the bass actually. i've listened to that track on bad headphones and the entire effect is lost, all the vast, cavernous, deep air of it gets squashed.

we've already talked about low res on the sublime thread. it would be nice if sublime made a comp of all of their singles.

that track is very SAW 85-92 though - think i prefer "amuck"

"i want stuff that sounds like REDSHAPE and RECENT CARL CRAIG REMIXES"

my recommendations are all on point then! or do you mean old stuff? you should definitely hear the len faki track i listed if you haven't already - all laser-like moaning moog leads and super dramatic chunky chrome synth stabs. and the redshape remix of markus enochson, this is like the 10th time i've talked about it on ilm but it really is great, i think i described it as the soundtrack to a space battle victory march. i reckon 'bell clap dance' is pretty space battle.

radioslave remix of 'my black sheep'

yeah, yours are good!

post space battle techno (as in this is the music after the battle when all the soldiers fly home and need to chill but still want to get their groove on):

williams - love on a real train (williams odyssey remix)
bodzin/romboy - callisto/io
jeff mills - one man spaceship
radioslave - my bleep (roman fluegel remix)

I propose that we make it the law that no one is allowed to recommend anything on this thread without pinpointing the archetypal scene in the sci-fi movie that it is meant to soundtrack. I think mine involves a gigantic planet-eating monster of some kind.

http://www.wetcircuit.com/wp-content/myfotos/2001spaceodyssey/2001SpaceOdyssey025.jpg

Can I request that no-one turn around and blame me if/when this term becomes thoroughly annoying?

Vahid did you hear those Ink & Needle tracks? I'll come back with a few recommendations/uploads later.

no tim, you can't (still feeling that "beardo house" backlash, a bit).

no i didn't hear those ink & needle tracks. i've gotten pretty lazy with the soulseeking. please do upload.

this

lack of medium for sound waves to vibrate i presume

Ink & Needle - Seven:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/84002180fab703/

Trickski's version of "At Les" owns this thread, if you haven't heard it Vahid.

wld really love to see a movie that used all these tracks

Amox & Atle - A Witch's Kiss (Ink & Needle Remix):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/84505980320af0/

Just to make the Redshape remixes complete: this one is great, too. Didn't know it existed before I found saw the cover in a recordstore and thought: this looks like space.

http://www.discogs.com/release/1219938

Yuro & Trago: Primary Roots (Redshape Clear Mix).

And for everyone who might be interested: I made a mix a couple of days ago. The peak track is Smith'n'Hacks "Space Warrior".

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kpk851

That's the tracklist:

1. KSoul & Ra.H: „Turning Point“ (Sistrum)
2. Kelley Polar: „Rosenband (Magic Tim's Instrumental Version)“ (Environ)
3. Steadycam: „In The Moog For Love“ (K2)
4. Morgan Geist: „Most Of All“ (Environ)
5. Gudrun Gut: „Move Me (Burger/ Voigt Remix)“ (Monika)
6. Tiger Stripes: „Hooked“ (Liebe Detail)
7. Brazilian Girls: „Last Call (Carl Craig Remix)“ (Universal)
8. Schaeben & Voss feat. Schad privat: „Put Up Job“ (Kompakt)
9. Smith‘n‘Hack: „Space Warrior“ (Smith‘n‘Hack)
10. Greg Wilson: „Get Up“ (White)
11. Outlines: „Listen To The Drums (Jazzanova Remix)“ (Sonar Kollektiv)
12. Deee-Lite: „What Is Love (Holographic Goatee Mix)“ (Elektra)
13. I:Cube: „Vacuum Jackers (Maurice Fulton Remix) (Versatile)
14. Paul Simon: „Diamonds Dub (Tangoterje Edit)“ (Supreme)

WOW, TIM

ink & needle's remix of "witches kiss" is INCREDIBLE

innit tho! that's def the best track i've heard in this vein

Another real banger is: Adam Marshall - Kokane

Bah, awful title though.

Ok I think I have one of these. Might be a bit too glossy and not knarz-y enough, but very ominous and spacy... I think this is totally wonderful.

Virtualmismo - 'Mismoplastico' (Serge Santiago Maxi Edit)

The space battle scene that I feel this best soundtracks would be the bit in 'Elite' (ZX spectrum or BBC Micro version) when you attempted to teleport, it went wrong, and you were attacked by swarms of really tough to kill 'thargoid' aliens in hexagonal spaceships...

New Christian Vogel is pretty heady. But make mine Smith & Hack ftw.

oh, and the 8bit soundtrack to Galaga.

The first thing that came to mind with the thread title is Eon - "Spice".

read beyond the thread title before posting

len faki, odyssey 1? if not a battle, certainly a race.

when you guys talk about smith n hack you mean this: http://www.discogs.com/release/1035347

and not this:
http://www.discogs.com/release/35150

or this:
http://www.discogs.com/release/68450

right? cuz those last 2 don't sound very spacy to me.

xxpost.

Tim?

Also, I thought it was perfectly acceptable to respond with a "I thought this thread was going to be about...", no?

ok my bad

but eon is not it

Gotcha. I read the thread but am still not sure exactly what it is.

Model 500's "Off to Battle" would probably qualify, both in terms of its title and sound.

Dark Comedy - War Of The Worlds (Epic Mix)!!

Purveyors Of Fine Funk - Space Is The Place... THEY ARE AMONG US

http://f.cl.ly/items/1h0M0p1U3s2r452O3e0V/IMG_0786.jpg

ysi

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actually, i've heard "visions of mars" - isn't that panic trax stuff just dynamix ii styled electro breaks?

i haven't listened to it for a long time. i think so, but with more of a house tempo? in any case i think it belongs in this thread.

i have retrieved it from my parents' house! will ysi!

in the meantime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE5EEeDL4nU