Daft Punk's Homework V. Discovery

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Despite its reputation, Homework is pretty pedestrian fare.

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lol discovery

voted hw

Oh, and know this:

Despite its reputation, Homework is pretty pedestrian fare.

-- Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:54

Loved it at the time and think it's a perfect distillation of 20 years of dance music up to that point. It's hard to forget now how by '96 a lot of electronic and club stuff was getting a really cheesy pseudo-spiritual vibe: from "underground" PLUR raves to drippy chart house and trance. This record put a harder, more streamlined perspective on things. Pedestrian it aint!

"pedestrian" is such a douchebag word.

human after all

ps bringing up daft punk is up there w/ bringing up prince as far as establishing corny indie fukk status

"Well, if that's corny, then corn me up!"

cute girls at clubs bring up daft punk a lot in conversation

stop trying to talk to cute girls about microhouse

but maybe they just assume im a corny indie fukk

microhouse! what is this, 2003? xp

dude you used to call yourself david "mac dre and microhouse is my shit" drake

i think it was mac dre, i dont even fuckin remember

yes, in 2003

also, not mac dre but i dont know what yr talking about specifically

mac drake

and cute girls in clubs bring up tiesto a lot in conversation, too

"oh my god, tiesto is the bomb, bitch"

what clubs do you go to

im not defending making a daft punk poll here dude, fight the real enemy

HW obviously. its not even really much competition.

this is my son and business partner HW

Oh, and know this:

haa

anyway ethan stfu and go download that new fat joe/premo track i posted in rolling ringtone

daft joe

I find I generally can't bring up daft punk with people these days, because I've seen too many as-of-2007-DP-fans who couldn't even care for homework outside of 'yeah, I remember the music video to around the world' appeal is kind of disheartening. That and DP's unfortunate absorption into the French electro house scene(which is derivative of them anyways) which has caused this.

Oh yeah, Homework wins by about a zillion times.

ps bringing up daft punk is up there w/ bringing up prince as far as establishing corny indie fukk status

-- moonship journey to baja, Sunday, March 2, 2008 1:18 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Hahaha, yeah. Only corny indie fuxx like Prince.

oh look, a daft punk thread

Loved it at the time and think it's a perfect distillation of 20 years of dance music up to that point.

It may be. Listening to Homework for the first time in a few years, it was surprising to me how...ordinary it sounded. Granted, if you're a toe-tapping dance music fiend, you almost certainly prefer it to the overtly poppist Discovery -- the development is considerably less linear, there aren't those Romanthony vocals to poke fun at, and, well, the sound is very warm and analog...at its best, almost like one of your favorite records skipping.

Here's the thing: if you're NOT a toe-tapping dance music fiend, Homework isn't exactly Meet the Beatles either. And I disagree, if you close your eyes, it sounds exactly like something from '96 -- that is, ANYTHING from '96. How so? A lot of the analog stuff is gimmicky. A ton of the samples are interesting at first, then ground into the ground -- Todd Edwards they weren't (yet). Beyond "Teachers," the whole "shout out to our homiez on the inner-sleeve" feels like gratuitous hipster tease, generally irrelevant to anything therein.

I won't deny there are things about it that in retrospect portend to some of the best moments on Discovery. But the best moment on the record is the first: where the beat comes down when it finally kicks in over the opening sample. Totally unexpected and perfect every time I put it on. Then I get bored...also, every time I put it on.

so a techno record sounds like it's skipping? haven't heard that one before.

all house music sounds exactly the same? haven't heard that one before.

ha

I'm just saying that deliberately portentious sound notwithstanding <i>Homework</i> was at its core kind of a generic acid house record.

Then again, maybe you've heard that one before.

it was like a pop version of 20 years of Detroit and Chicago rolled into one, mixed with love, and while giving props to the artists they loved.

great thread

But the best moment on the record is the first: where the beat comes down when it finally kicks in over the opening sample. Totally unexpected and perfect every time I put it on.

via wikipedia via Homework liner notes:

"Daftendirekt" is an excerpt of a live performance recorded at a Fuse Party in Gent.

Here's the thing: if you're NOT a toe-tapping dance music fiend, Homework isn't exactly Meet the Beatles either.

But don't you realize? There are only two types of people in vahid's world: toe-tapping dance music fiends such as himself and cornie indie fuxx who don't know anything.

There are only two types of people in vahid's world on ILM

there is a lot of butthurtedness going around on this thread

In that case would you please explain my corny indie fukkitude to me, please? Perhaps you could summarize it as, "You prefer Discovery over Homework."

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l-r: me, you

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"There are only two types of people on ILM

-- moonship journey to baja"

i definitely like being a toe-tapping dance music fiend, especially compared to being a corny indie fuck. corny indie fucks are wack.

vahid = http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop07/0804,burns,78893,.html

i dont even know that i agree that hw is better - i listen to that a lot more than discovery cause of discovery burnout, and i dont really listen to hw THAT often any more either - but rev, NTI's argument is really boring and cliched, regardless of whether hes 'right' or not

its the equivalent of 'outkast TRANSCENDS rap music' kind of nonsense. you can still love outkast and think they're one of the best rap groups ever but arguing it thru 'dont you see? other rap is just GENERIC RAP MUSIC' is a boring (and fallacy ridden) way to do it

i like both but i listen to 'discovery' more.

so that gets my vote.

Unless of course the subject at hand has crossed over into a totally distinct genre. Which, btw, DP did with Discovery. It's not like I'm pissing on an acid house band for being acid house -- why would I fucking bother? I'm saying 1) this record doesn't function as much more THAN an acid house record, bells, whistles and satin jackets notwithstanding and 2) that Daft Punk were more interesting when they left the trappings of it behind and actually put all that crap in the music itself, not the liner sleeve.

so they TRANSCEND dance music into a totally distinct genre?

a totally distinct genre that sounds like a mix of phoenix, cassius and alan braxe

Deej: Yeah, I get all that, but I'm not really defending NTI here so much as objecting to the language vahid is using to refute him, which is just as stale, if not even worse.

you know what's not stale? JOCKING DAFT PUNK in 2008.

xpost: Musicians be having influences. (And surely that influence runs both ways with all those examples. I mean, weren't DP in a band with one of the dudes from Phoenix, ffs?)

I'm just saying that deliberately portentious sound notwithstanding <i>Homework</i> was at its core kind of a generic acid house record.

how is this record portentous?

voted 'homework' for sentimental reasons; they're both amazing, there isn't that much separating them; could care less about "as-of-2007-DP-fans" and their tastes since i've been one since 1996. 'homework' isn't pedestrian.

You're absolutely right. I should have ran out and bought the "Alive" single when I was 8, then I'd have cred.

xxp

a totally distinct genre that sounds like a mix of phoenix, cassius and alan braxe

-- moonship journey to baja, Monday, March 3, 2008 12:09 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

to be fair this is a pretty awesome genre

yes, one that has inspired countless 300+ post threads arguing the relative merits of homework, discovery, HAA and the justice album

tired of motherfuckers trying to tell me they're down with prince

People in liking an extremely popular musician.

you should read the justice thread.

ronan on that thread = me on this thread
me on that thread = you on this thread

also i say really grumpy and bitchy shit to a bunch of people i like, for no good reason.

1000+ posts of pure awesomeness.

I've read the Justice thread, not interested in doing it again. Yikes. Still lol @ one of the first couple posts: "That pretentious symbol looks familiar", though.

And I disagree, if you close your eyes, it sounds exactly like something from '96 -- that is, ANYTHING from '96.

this is totally wrong to me. list three tracks by other people that could've been on Homework or vice versa. in '96 nothing sounded like DP (not even just the recontext of disco on 'Trax On Da Rocks' - American takes on this weren't as 'psychedelic' or the deeper-but-less-range 'Pansoul').

listened to bit of old Leftfield essential mix from '94 last night and it's got 'Alive' in it daamn

i d/l'd 'discovered', this thing of 'tracks sampled by' DP. kind of bemused -- no idea what connects 'da funk' to the track they include.

was it the james brown track with the 3 second drum break?

'get it up for love' by tata vega.

oh yeah i didn't hear the sample in that either. fantastic track tho.

we should do a poll on best song sampled by daft punk, on its own.

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And I disagree, if you close your eyes, it sounds exactly like something from '96 -- that is, ANYTHING from '96.

Naaaaaaahhhhhh...

If anything, Homework kinda went against the grain. The big trends in house and techno at that time were breakbeats, deep/progressive house, drum and bass, trip hop, etc... Trippy, spacey, "warm", "deep" immersive sounds. Daft Punk were a bit more stripped down, hard edged, disco-ish, electro-ish. They were a ahead of their time in some ways, and looking back in others.

there is a lot of butthurtedness going around on this thread

-- max, Monday, March 3, 2008 4:41 AM

dude it's dance cats & pop dudes colliding wut u expect

human after all

OTM!! ^

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

i love the follow-up to the poll question. talk about trying to add bias.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

jeez

wau though, that's a lot of votes.

typical of ILM to champion the weaker option.

Listen u fong, ilm is a general interest music board, not a dance board, and Discovery obv has the wider reach. 44 votes for Homework is still pretty significant!

...fong?

typical of pipecock to act the tard

tard / fong? i like these new words.

anyway, 'discovery' the worthy winner in my book cos i listen to it more.

ya i forget this is ilm, jabbahands otm.

lol fong

New, related poll:

Daft Punk's Homework v. Discovery v. Human After All

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"Listen u fong, ilm is a general interest music board, not a dance board, and Discovery obv has the wider reach. 44 votes for Homework is still pretty significant!

-- jabba hands"

so people with "general interest" don't actually know anything about dance as we can see here. and judging by the "rap" producers poll, they dont know shit about hiphop either. so for all the general interest, what the fuck does anyone know about here?

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what the fuck does anyone know about here?

now Skapunk, that's what i CALL dance music

pipecock would you go yank it to al jolson already