Techno/House Bobbins of the past

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

In my defense, I'm only 19.

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

second one is m4a btw

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIYl70A4VwU

Off-Shore ‎- I Can't Take The Power

The vocal isn't a straight lift, first part "I can't take" from Class Actions Weekend, rest from Jocelyn Brown

Big fan of how Umek used that sample in the early 00’s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36KO_XIz8-Y

didn’t realize that about the vocal lift! one of my fave piano house tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V3xrckUZYE

Dark & Moody – Volume 1

the nights are drawing in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7P8wwsIaN8

Real Cool - U Know, U Know (2012)

I came across this fleeting light-hearted ditty from Malmo recently and was very glad to have done so, u know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsxVP--ppk4

Syko & Mak - Recognition (Econ-Omix)

Hertford vs Hitchin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9t9Dk1Dtz8

Tony G - Tony's Song (1988)

Odd mix of jaunty and creepy, I think i prefer without the Al Pacino samples (or recreations according to some on discogs) but the instrumental isn't online

I think there's a revival bubbling under of this sort of late 80s/early 90s NYC sound. You've got hip-hop influenced house stuff like Todd Terry, Pal Joey on one side, Nu Groove with the Burrell Brothers who are like a cross between that and Chicago House, and kind of freestyle/electro adjacent stuff on Micmac, Smokin'/Tuff City Records, Cutting Records.

Maybe it's just me. Obv some of that stuff is stone cold timeless classics already endlessly compiled and reissued, while a lot of it is dirt cheap under-appreciated stuff, sometimes where you have to go to the dub/instrumental mix. It's also possible that a lot of it just seems extra cheap to me because it's all over NYC. But that electro meets sampler hip-hop production meets salsa/freestyle/latin influence, all with crazy machine gun tape-edits.

I've always thought about this stuff especially the degree it fed into Renegade Soundwave. This came up somewhere this week, I can't remember ILX, facebook, instagram or whatever, somebody posting one of the Bad Boy Orchestra tracks somewhere so I posted this again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAD-ydf91dg

I love that stuff. In that spirit check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7_YMr0PnSE

Nice.

I wish there was a bobbins thread

Should I see Todd terry live? What about lil Louis ? Any scene reports

I wish there was a bobbins thread

there is a current bobbins thread!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUK2EYCuvoM

Egglady - Prinsessan Och Ägget 4 (1998)

route one football is coming home

there is a current bobbins thread!!

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Is that the techno for ppl doing it wrong thread? Feels not very bobbins in spirit

Current bobbins

"Current Bobbins"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PYmvecoULs

Paradroid - Gauss Rifle Jam

Boogizm helping us to experience universal consciousness

I assumed that was S-Max, but apparently its a different person!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SChXU30xnps

Parra Dice - Can You Hear Me (1993)

Mixed feelings on this one, but that piano riff half way through is undeniable

Larry de Kat - Cheap Knob Gags (2012)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9AH91f3xZQ

Throw another log on the early-00s uk tech house repress fire:
Haris - Fourtrack ep
https://soundcloud.com/subwax-bcn-distribution/shimmy001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS9i9KBroBw

Spectral - Touch Somebody (Seduction Remix)

top speed down country lane

One of my best friends uploaded this rare little self-released 12" to his Soundcloud. There's an unfortunate crackle, but the track is really wonderful Burrell style goodness.
https://soundcloud.com/hidingplaceplace/geo-one-no-kill-unknown-late-90s-nj-experimental-dance-12?

I feel like I've heard this before! Though it seems unlikely from the description, it is familiar though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F79ryEtVrKo

Melodious Myles - Dungeon Terror (1987)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9rNUNKqX1g

Richard Bartz - Holographic 2 (1999)

Always loved this but never knew what it was until earlier this year when I came across it randomly. I don't remember liking any other Bartz records I'd heard, but this is route one sassy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp8UaH5dQ5I

Shaun Imrei - Leeds, Leeds, Leeds (1992)

Melancholic slow burner with an uncredited vocal cameo from Peter Drury

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBwh1ipvLu8

Maas - Enemy News

(Ewan Pearson, 1996)

Heard this banger last night. I feel like the label, sub_static, hasn’t aged especially well since the microhouse days, but this track is just on another level

John Spring - Strange (2003)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dxRKLul3lw

That is a classic from that mid 2000s period in my view. It might be worth looking at Sub Static again, particularly at the Thibideau brothers/ Repair records and the MIA ones which were popular here at the time. John Spring put out two great 12s last year also.

Being from Toronto, the Thibideau bros are underground heroes in my books. I have one of their sub static records that I like. But yeah, might have to get past the associations with all the plink-plonky stuff they put out and take a more serious look.

I'm not particularly tuned into the Thibideau world but The Fading Future from last year was good. Little bit of a slow burner

A second foray from Shaun Imrei, vocals don't sound like Peter Drury this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9otfWvqTCk

Shaun Imrei - Dance with me

Some fav Thibideau tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB1FAqElMDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngzTckIedOg

"Archenar" is nice. I also like "Autobus," under Matt's Coordinates alias:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwRtytiDuFI

And I don't mean this at all as a put-down, but my favorite record with Matt is probably Daniel Lui's side of their split "Surface" EP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QXLiFZO37w

There is an old Villalobos mix that lays this underneath the acapella of Brothers' Vibe's "El Baile." Absolutely fantastic.

I've not heard Autobus before, thats great! Really reminds me of something but lost to the ether

Looove Chair Records. But that’s me being nostalgic about late 90s Toronto techno that was before my time, and so source of much fascination.

This is an underrated record I love, even if it’s basically carl craig fanfic. I always see used copies on sale for peanuts, whereas it took me years to find an affordable copy of the (imo not as great) “big smoke nights 2”, which was v valuable for awhile because villalobos was playing it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRMz6Rv8htY

A little more breakbeat than techno/house bobbins, but my youtube algo recommended this and it slams, really good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H09C7MLOUFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDmBE1vFcA8

Omer & Crooks - Time Rock

third round proper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pYDipWjRdY

Vera & Federico Molinari play and discuss records that influenced them.

I love the story of how they both had the Mitell record (around 30 minutes in) but didn't know that the other one also had it because they always played the same cuts from the opposite sides of the record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLS3KeRuY6w

Eric Kupper Presents K-Scope - Planet K from the above talk. Never heard this before, genial times

Yes! I was also previously unfamiliar with but quite taken by that one.
The flute is reminiscent of “The Whistle Song,” which checks out since Eric was the primary producer of the Frankie Knuckles track!

Titonton & Fabrice - Chimay Shimmy on Refraction Vol. 1, 2002 (I like that the “Refraction Vol 2.” came out in 2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzhq27Te9Ds

The gem on that kupper record is “katerpillar” imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyhkJDCUL5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8oCXIClVYw

On 1 Crew - The Shuffle

England

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBTma-ZKC1U

Schmoov! - Destination (2001)

Chris Rea has so much time on the ball its like he's on the beach

nice, that is very schmoov indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp0o_PRaHEQ

Greg Greene - I'll Be There (1997)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQpHCs5OkpI

Before Moses - Dreams Can Come True

outrageous