The thread for Portishead "Third"

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Listening now to what may possibly be a raw mix, but I'm kind of hoping it's a finalized version. This is totally stream of consciousness stuff in the best way.

I'm sure people will complain about the lack of anything like "Roads" or "Sour Times", but those have already been made and made perfectly. Why try to recreate them over and over? Especially when you'd rather be doing (and I'd rather be hearing) things like "Hunter" with maybe the best guitar bit I'll hear all year and "Machine Gun" which closes out with some totally John Carpenter-esque synth dabbling.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 March 2008 08:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Listening now to what may possibly be a raw mix

plz explain? promo? leak? friend of the band/studio tech/label?

StanM, Friday, 7 March 2008 08:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Mickey?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 7 March 2008 08:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Leak, but the source is vague about details.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 March 2008 08:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Mmmm...this just continues to get better.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 March 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm 3/4 of the way through my first listen...I have no idea what to make of this so far. Very different from the first albums, thankfully.

"Machine Gun" sounds massive.

Simon H., Friday, 7 March 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

fuck you all

HI DERE, Friday, 7 March 2008 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Stevie T told me this album didn't so much exceed his expectation as smash them into a million pieces.

VERY EXCITED.

Matt DC, Friday, 7 March 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

When is this officially released?

HI DERE, Friday, 7 March 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

4/28

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 March 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

SO FAR AWAY ARGH

HI DERE, Friday, 7 March 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

so I guess you're holding out then?

Simon H., Friday, 7 March 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm definitely holding out; I don't really look for leaks.

HI DERE, Friday, 7 March 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

if Beth Gibbons didn't have such a nice voice, this album would never get played again at my house.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 7 March 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Jess's "first impression" piece is pretty much essential reading: http://idolator.com/365148/portishead-take-it-to-the-brink-but-hold-back

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 March 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

(Oh yeah, except for the part about the second record being slumpish...*shrug*)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 March 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

oboioboioboioboy!

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StanM, Friday, 7 March 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

(that's called hyper.gif btw)

StanM, Friday, 7 March 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

(and it's totally justified)

StanM, Friday, 7 March 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I cant wait for the release. Where can i hear this?

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 7 March 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

look alive, it's on pirate bay now. nice and fast :)

blueski, Saturday, 8 March 2008 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link

"Especially when you'd rather be doing (and I'd rather be hearing) things like "Hunter" with maybe the best guitar bit I'll hear all year"

Correct. I'm really digging this so far. Fans will be in spite of the lack of identifiable "stand out" tracks. However, I am still unsure whether it really is a step forward for them, perhaps it is a step side-ways.

oscar, Saturday, 8 March 2008 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link

listened to this twice today. this is v good. fucking dark as all hell.

oscar, Saturday, 8 March 2008 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

o my god it's good
almost every track is a standout so far
did you guys hear 'we carry on'?? oh hell, they're all good

However, I am still unsure whether it really is a step forward for them, perhaps it is a step side-ways.

i'd say this is pretty indisputably not-at-all true! put this above or below their first two, but it is certainly not on the same plane

sleepingbag, Saturday, 8 March 2008 09:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Very understated and groovy so far. Interesting.

Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 8 March 2008 11:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Stevie T told me this album didn't so much exceed his expectation as smash them into a million pieces.

This. Times about a million. I'm not a big Portishead fan but I'm REALLY enjoying this.

Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 8 March 2008 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

This is excellent. SWOON @ 'Hunter' altho I guess that's one of their more 'predictable' tracks/closest to their older sound.

blueski, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

holy shit this is good. the rip is AMAZING. thank you 'i love music' folks for letting me know it had leaked.

cryfok, Saturday, 8 March 2008 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread made it on a big fan site:

http://pheadweb.com/p_news.html

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 March 2008 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link

It's just so great when an album lives up to it's length in coming. The awesome 'Machine Gun' stands out as it's sound and approach is quite different to anything else on there.

blueski, Saturday, 8 March 2008 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

All links posted by fans will be removed immediately unless they hook a bro up.

stet, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

ah pirate bay, gottit

stet, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I presume 'Silence' is meant to stop abruptly like that?

Matt DC, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I think the running length matches the one posted on the official site.

Simon H., Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

"Silence" and "Machine Gun" are the one-listen standouts

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I presume 'Silence' is meant to stop abruptly like that?

-- Matt DC, Saturday, March 8, 2008 3:54 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

wouldn't bet on it.

generally want to hear this properly, uh, but i like it obv.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I reckon it is. Hence the title.

Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

oh the irony

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

i guess it depends how much 'silence' actually follows it on the record. another way in which mp3 rips suck.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Some of the "every instrument playing the same riff" parts reminded me of the end of The Stooges' Ann - like the end of Small, for instance. In a good way, though. :-)

StanM, Saturday, 8 March 2008 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

he mp3s all have about 5 seconds of extra silence (see "Magic Doors" -> "Threads," which are supposed to run together)

Simon H., Saturday, 8 March 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Fucking hell - Machine Gun! That's one of the most insistent, emotionless, mechanised drum loops I've ever heard.

Also, Small is STONER ROCK. I keep expecting the Kyuss-esque heavy guitars to pile in any minute.

Matt DC, Saturday, 8 March 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I hope a vinyl version comes out on Invada

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 8 March 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Pff, this stuff is so relentlessly bleak that I'm not sure how often I'll have the courage to put this on (says reformed pseudo-goth)

baaderonixx, Sunday, 9 March 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't find this too bleak as compared to burial for example. i see it more as a cold-hot affair. like a glowing glacier. or rubbing your hands in snow. this feeling of warmness coming from the cold. the first four songs except the third which is a little bit boring are portishead grand cru. after that i am not too sure yet.

alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 9 March 2008 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh. i don't want to listen to much like this at ALL right now. i'll probably put it away until halloween ...

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 9 March 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

"machine gun" is crazy though

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 9 March 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I like it! ...exceedingly strange melodic sense in many of these songs, esp. the first and last. The last track is a real stand-out for me.

Dan S, Sunday, 9 March 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm loving "Small" right now. Above comment OTM re. weird melodic sense. Also I'm pretty impressed by how coherent the sound and atmosphere throughout this record, considering it's been 10 years in the making.

baaderonixx, Sunday, 9 March 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Enjoying this so far. It's their rock album!

chap, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

ya. love it. didn't really dig the last one.

jaxon, Sunday, 13 December 2009 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Love the video as well. This may be my favourite kind of video, where men and women in a recording studio assume very concentrated expressions while doing some multitasking to assure us that they actually make every sound on the recording as we hear it. (If it sounds like I'm mocking, I truly am not, New Order's Perfect Kiss was the best I'd ever seen when I saw it 20 years ago.)

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Listening to this for the first time since the end of 08.

It's a masterpiece, basically.

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Totally right. I love this record.

ksh, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Has any other band made an album springing up out of absolutely fucking nowhere after a 10+ year hiatus that was also better than any of their previous albums?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost Scott Walker

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Flaming Lips didn't actually take a hiatus--but the impact of renewed artistic vigor for their 'Embryonic' is similarly unexpected. The two are my #1 albums for 2008/2009.

Soundslike, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

both great, both surprisingly slept on

akm, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

This album has grown on me so much.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm always so unsure :-/

ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Heh, I'm actually listening to that specific song right now. :D

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

far and away one of the best records of 2008 -- look for their Jools Holland set on YouTube if you want to see some awesome live performances

ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

the way the record ends is perfect too, imo

ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I still think this album is godhead.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I love how 'Machine Gun' takes a turn for the Tangerine Dream towards the end.

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

look for their Jools Holland set on YouTube if you want to see some awesome live performances

^^^^^^^^^^ YES ^^^^^^^^^^^

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 31 May 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKVBtEuPSwc

ksh, Monday, 31 May 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNItz50u6OM

ksh, Monday, 31 May 2010 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsoZRBZvdOc

ksh, Monday, 31 May 2010 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah those are all awesome, especially the first two

I've pretty much come full-circle on this album too - the only tracks I'm still dubious about are Plastic and Deep Water, the rest is fucking incredible

some men enjoy the feeling of being owned (acoleuthic), Monday, 31 May 2010 07:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Plastic is only one that doesn't do it for me. Deep Water is more an idea than a proper track, but it's perfectly sequenced.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 31 May 2010 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link

"Deep Water" makes perfect sense as an extended intro to "Machine Gun," otherwise it's kinda pointless. But boy does it work well in context!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 31 May 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

ppl always ask me my opinion on this but, tbh, i'm aaaaaaallllwaaaayyyssss ssoooooooo uunnnnssuuuurreeee

ksh, Monday, 31 May 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

(really though, i love it)

ksh, Monday, 31 May 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXstxFoayxI

New Geoff Barrow joint I am very digging. Better than Beak> thing imo

Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

im always so unsure :-/

markers, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it helps to have something (the voice) to hang all the contraptions on, esp. in this case something so monolithic and samey.

Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean the beak record was loaded with all these great accents but to me they seemed all sort of unmoored to anything. Anyway after two listens the album is pleasingly various...

Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Listened to this for the first time in about three years. Oh my, it is really, really good.

Mule, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

would kill for an entire album of canterbury sound doom-prog jams

j., Sunday, 10 November 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

you mean like Small, right (the best track) :D

imago, Sunday, 10 November 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

we're halfway through another ten years, so...

sleepingbag, Sunday, 10 November 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

I listened to this about a month ago, but the thread revive made me play it again tonight (while reading through all the posts).

I burned a copy in 2009 of Third with "Chase the Tear" as the last track after "Threads" for listening in my car, but I actually like to think of "Chase the Tear" as the first song from the next album...whenever that may come.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 November 2013 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

Can't believe it's already been 5 years since this album! Sounds like a classic album whenever I play it.

I love Chase the Tear and would be very happy if it was how the next album was going to sound.

There was an announcement about a new Beth Gibbons album earlier in the year but nothing else has been announced since then.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 11 November 2013 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

I still love Portishead but following Geoff Barrow in Twitter was a real "beware yr idols" moment

smoking, drinking, cracking and showing the MIDDLE FINGER (DJP), Monday, 11 November 2013 03:42 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

I still love and adore the transition from "Deep Water" into "Machine Gun"

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

yeah I listened to this twice today, that was a highlight

still think my back half of mezzanine/back half of third mixtape is a good one

imago, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

I went back and read the whole 2008 portion of this thread while listening to the album tonight. It still stuns me just like it did the first time I listened to it 11 years ago.

Still the album of the new century/millennium I love the most, tbh.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 24 August 2019 04:30 (five years ago) link

I know DJP's post is years old now but I went throw Barrow's last few days of Twitter activity and found nothing objectionable. Did he have a twat phase?

Simon H., Saturday, 24 August 2019 04:45 (five years ago) link

I've followed him for a pretty long time, seems like a decent guy, sometimes a bit grumpy. Never noticed him being a twat.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 24 August 2019 11:36 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

I don't remember the details of what made me say that about Geoff Barrow but it was definitely a series of tweets that made me think he was not particularly fond of Black people

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

also this album still goes HARD in the paint, one of the best things I've ever purchased

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link

a series of tweets that made me think he was not particularly fond of Black people

Really? That's disappointing. :(

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

to be clear, that was my interpretation; it certainly wasn't at a level that would make me excise Portishead from my record collection (although I did stop keeping up with Beak)

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

I can’t find objectionable tweets from him or mention of them elsewhere.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 4 March 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

I am listening to this album on a plane and it is so so so so so good

DJP, Saturday, 28 December 2024 15:24 (six days ago) link

Fantastic airplane listening imo

A Christmas Carl (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 28 December 2024 21:01 (six days ago) link

Gave a fresh listen recently, still so good, wonder if MBV will release a new one before P4 ever appears

Where's my 90's portishead sound? :(

LightUserSyndrome, Monday, 30 December 2024 23:51 (four days ago) link

It’s on the 90s albums

DJP, Tuesday, 31 December 2024 00:00 (three days ago) link


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