You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Download

also lol at dude in tshirt who almost certainly has never paid for music in his life

So it's not just a play on a Johnny Thunders song title? What is this, a new comp?

it's... a t-shirt

You can put your arms through a T-shirt.

Ned = the winner.

Ned = champion post

Too kind.

He's probably never paid for anything in his life.

so ned you think i'm reading too much into this? wouldn't be the first time

i love that they attribute it to the ning group, like waving a conservative racial minority around as a badge of honor: SEE, WE'VE GOT ONE! not all you kids usin the internets have to be downloadin

Jim, my response shirt would be "All that is solid melts into downloads," just to bother Marxists. I would then put my arms through that too.

the right to covered arms

fierce panda?

also that shirt is shopped onto him

Crappy UK indie label started by some ex-NME bloke I think.

xpost

and the caption looks like its been shopped onto the shirt. what a joke!

Their website is full of bad graphic design.

"You can't put your arms around a download." You read it here first. Regular panda watchers will know how much we love a good t-shirt. And NING 211 is going to be the fierce panda shirt to end all shirts because it is emblazoned with the slogan "You can't put your arms around a download." This shirt isn't officially 'released' until April 21st but orders are being taken for it right now at our new shop - just click on the link on the panda homepage. The Truth: If there is one thing the music industry is exceptionally good at, it’s griping and gossiping, preferably at the same time. We call it grossiping. And you cannot begin to comprehend the millions and kazillions of man and woman hours wasted moaning about the collapsing market and bemoaning the fate of another 500 major label employees thrown onto the scrapheap. It’s called negative energy, and to exaggerate wildly for a moment it’s tearing the industry apart. **So, half-blinded by the usual combination of moral heroics and expensive gin fierce panda thought it would do something positive about it. And that something is to design a t-shirt with the slogan (and with apologies to Johnny Thunders) “You can’t put your arms around a download” across the chest, because it’s true on every level. Better still we have teamed up with the cotton-printin’ enthusiasts at Backstreet Merchandise to produce top quality t-shirts in two colours (white and black) and five sizes to fit all, from the most militant of four year olds to the stoutest of punk rock fortysomethings. **Rather conveniently this announcement coincides with February 24th, which is the fourteenth birthday of fierce panda records. And the moral of this story? Fourteen years on from the release of the ‘Shagging In The Streets’ EP on the panda the consumption of music has been revolutionised, which is pretty much a good thing. Alas the download format which was supposed to lead to a level playing field for record labels the land over has actually distorted the charts beyond indie comprehension – fierce panda singles which would have qualified for the top 40 a few years ago now struggle to make the top 100, so clogged up are the charts with two or even three singles by all the Amys and Britneys and Rihannas. ** The “You can’t put your arms around a download” t-shirt could be the first of many. It could well be the first of one. It could make a few people stop and think about where music is going and how we can re-motivate a generation of people who visit the dentist more often than their local record shop. It may simply keep a few people warm if utilised as an undergarment during a cold snap. Either way, this is something for the romantics, for the believers in the perpetual power of the seven inch single. This one is for the music lovers...

fierce panda singles which would have qualified for the top 40 a few years ago now struggle to make the top 100,

this is because you haven't released a decent record (with the exception of the raveonettes) in a very long time

Did they ever? (actually I do like the Raveonettes, didn't know they were on Fierce Panda)

I remember one of my friends at uni had some Fierce Panda comps around '95, they were shit then as well.

yeah they actually did - mainly the ones that weren't pre-major label "cred" releases

full disclosure: i own 95% of everything they released up until they signed "Capdown" who were the final straw

you can't really put your arms around a cd either.

unless ur like a midget or something.

I bought a couple of FP singles (back when I still bought records/CDs without hearing them first) and I guess I was unlucky. I can only think of one - the Interpreters - fucking rubbish that was. Capdown are a SKA-PUNK band, right? I think they still play around London.

yeah not too good that one.

Alas the download format which was supposed to lead to a level playing field for record labels the land over has actually distorted the charts beyond indie comprehension.

indie comprehension

what are they teaching kids in school these days

The copy writing on their site is pretty much crap.

it's DIY that cares about the charts! ning!

wtf is up with that dude's eyebrows?

they are deeply wrong

You can put your arms around a download. I'm doing it right now.

"You can't listen to a t-shirt" either

(but that doesn't *necessarily* mean that "the t-shirt" heralds the approach of the end times, or somesuch)

I liked the "Wibbling Rivalry" field recordings of Oasis gits yelling at each other thing they put out. Otherwise eh.

"This shirt isn't officially 'released' until April 21st"

so what they're saying is that it has leaked?

DOWNLOADING IS KILLING T-SHIRTS

holy shit this is so dumb. "you can't put your arms around an mp3" would be 100000000x times better and ACTUALLY RHYME WITH THE NAME OF THE SONG.

i have spent the last few hours thinking WAY too much about this and i am now furious.

an open letter to Simon Williams:

Hi Simon,

you're absolutely correct. You can't put your arms around a download. You can't put your arms around a wav file either. Or the sound coming out of your speakers. Oddly enough, if i chose to do so for some reason, I could put my arms around my hard drive. Or a bunch of CDRs filled with mp3s.

I could also put my arms around the wads of cash i would have saved had i not had to spend a fuckload in import prices and/or shipping accumulating the 210ish of the 250-odd releases fierce panda has put out. the money i spent supporting YOUR label, Simon. Money that you spent producing more releases or promoting your releases or paying your staff or paying off NME journalists.

Sure, I can put my arms around a bunch of vinyl 45s. but like a causal hug with someone i've just met, it doesn't mean anything. Owning the physical vinyl record doesn't make it mean anything more to me. I've bought literally thousands of mp3s and they mean as much musically as anything i've ever bought, vinyl or cd. Hey, i don't have artwork (wah for the designer) or liner notes (wah i don't know who mixed it or wrote it) or band pictures (MAJOR bonus).. who gives a fuck? doesn't the music matter the most? what's your answer to that, smart arse? how many people had their first experience hearing the music that changed their life by LOOKING AT THE FUCKING COVER and knowing that it was mixed by tom fucking lord-alge?

for fuck's sake.

Music does not need to be produced in a physical format. There are no benefits beside very poor emotional arguments. Quality? Flacs. Cover art? Hey if you care so much, print your fucking own. I don't give a damn. Don't try and tell me how i should be consuming my music, especially if there is no tangible benefit whatsoever from a physical format.

I can't put my arms around a download. I can't put my arms around any sort of feeling, you compete wally. if your music isn't making someone feel, what the fuck is it worth? it's certainly not worth the resources to press it onto a fucking seven inch single.

GRRRR

Bhahhaha

a generation of people who visit the dentist more often than their local record shop

In 21st century Britain? NHS dentists are the only thing more comprehensively purged from every town than record shops

you got out the right side of the bed today, electricsound. go get 'em.

Calm down man, you're fiercer than a panda!

haw

but like a causal hug with someone i've just met, it doesn't mean anything.

A "causal hug" would surely lead into something, right?

what offends me most is the non-matching black background of the phrase, as compared with the black of the shirt

I can put my arms around my computer, and caress it, for allowing me to download!

I don't know what any of this is about, but on behalf of the late Johnny Thunders, I want to set that kid's ridiculous eyebrows on fire.

Hi Simon,

you're absolutely correct. You can't put your arms around a download. You can't put your arms around a wav file either. Or the sound coming out of your speakers. Oddly enough, if i chose to do so for some reason, I could put my arms around my hard drive. Or a bunch of CDRs filled with mp3s.

I could also put my arms around the wads of cash i would have saved had i not had to spend a fuckload in import prices and/or shipping accumulating the 210ish of the 250-odd releases fierce panda has put out. the money i spent supporting YOUR label, Simon. Money that you spent producing more releases or promoting your releases or paying your staff or paying off NME journalists.

Sure, I can put my arms around a bunch of vinyl 45s. but like a causal hug with someone i've just met, it doesn't mean anything. Owning the physical vinyl record doesn't make it mean anything more to me. I've bought literally thousands of mp3s and they mean as much musically as anything i've ever bought, vinyl or cd. Hey, i don't have artwork (wah for the designer) or liner notes (wah i don't know who mixed it or wrote it) or band pictures (MAJOR bonus).. who gives a fuck? doesn't the music matter the most? what's your answer to that, smart arse? how many people had their first experience hearing the music that changed their life by LOOKING AT THE FUCKING COVER and knowing that it was mixed by tom fucking lord-alge?

for fuck's sake.

Music does not need to be produced in a physical format. There are no benefits beside very poor emotional arguments. Quality? Flacs. Cover art? Hey if you care so much, print your fucking own. I don't give a damn. Don't try and tell me how i should be consuming my music, especially if there is no tangible benefit whatsoever from a physical format.

I can't put my arms around a download. I can't put my arms around any sort of feeling, you compete wally. if your music isn't making someone feel, what the fuck is it worth? it's certainly not worth the resources to press it onto a fucking seven inch single.

Genre: Formal
Female = 592
Male = 795
Difference = 203; 57.31%
Verdict: Weak MALE

Weak emphasis could indicate European.

holy shit this is so dumb. "you can't put your arms around an mp3" would be 100000000x times better and ACTUALLY RHYME WITH THE NAME OF THE SONG.

-- s1ocki, Saturday, March 8, 2008 8:22 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Link

otfm.

lol @ libcrypt

You can't turn your face into a download.

You can't turn your face into a download.

Aaaah! you beat me to this by a minute.

Moley wins.