Daft Punk's Homework v. Discovery v. Human After All

By the way, Human After All is by far the best -- eats the other two alive.

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My favorite of the albums as well.

Yessss. I cannot lose with Ned in my corner.

Should have given this a year or so to cool down. Daft Punk fatigue will set in.

noooooo

i really wanna be the dick who reposts the whole of the last thread in this one

naw sarge come vote in my poll instead

what is this book i'm ghostwriting about

still voted hw btw

By the way, Human After All is by far the best -- eats the other two alive.

-- stephen, Sunday, 9 March 2008 03:37 (4 hours ago) Link

My favorite of the albums as well.

-- Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 March 2008 03:40 (4 hours ago) Link

lololololololololololololol

but it's true :(

†?

alive 2007 = best release overall
hw = best album

(imo, like everything anywhere on ilx)

like 'rollin & scratchin' is the most serious shit out

^^^ comes correct

i haven't heard 'alive 2007' -- i'm sure it's good but i don't see how it can't be a nostalgia trip for late 90s dudes like me now. that "new" track someone posted the other week was pure 1998 exoticness. not BAD but... ech.

The "new" track was a fake.

i'm sure it's good but i don't see how it can't be a nostalgia trip for late 90s dudes like me now

anyone doing a live album after having already released a best of would come off like that tho - at least the way it's all mixed up gives it a more inventive angle

I am in very much doubt. "Homework" has the best tracks (the two single hits), but I feel like "Discovery" is a bit more cohesive overall. At least apart from the aptly titled "Too Long".

where is a thread where ILM has discussed Alive 2007

if the new one beats HW, it will be the most retarded thing ever. HAA is pretty much complete garbage, no matter what your angle is.

If homework lost to discovery, it might as well lose to human after all. That is how ridiculous homework losing to discovery is.

Voted Human After All, which I've never even heard, just to butthurt pipecock.

ha wish id thought to do that

butthurt after all

i'm following rev's lead

me 2

"If homework lost to discovery, it might as well lose to human after all. That is how ridiculous homework losing to discovery is.

-- mehlt"

true.

FALSE

I repeat from the first thread, goes something like this:

Human After All >>> Discovery >>>>>>> Homework >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justice

i like all three of these albums

where is a thread where ILM has discussed Alive 2007?

Daft Punk Live-Seriously this time.....

Where is the one where the new track 'Love' was discussed which was supposedly by Thomas Bangalter (except now it turns out it wasn't by him at all)?

Human After All < Justice < Discovery < Trax On Da Rocks & early Le Knight Club < Alive 1997 < Homework < Alive 2007

Still can't figure out why anyone who wasn't taking notice in 1996 would champion Homework over Discovery. Granted, Homework was doing something original compared to the Big Beat sound of its day, but Discovery has SO MUCH MORE going on in it than the simple 110bpm 808 & 303 rhythms of HW. It's also a much more pleasant and diverse listening experience, and the run of tracks 1-4 is possibly the best on any album ever.

As for Human After All, bar the first track it's a pile of steaming dog crap.

"Still can't figure out why anyone who wasn't taking notice in 1996 would champion Homework over Discovery. Granted, Homework was doing something original compared to the Big Beat sound of its day, but Discovery has SO MUCH MORE going on in it than the simple 110bpm 808 & 303 rhythms of HW.

-- the next grozart"

simple is always preferred.

good looking out on mentioning the Trax on Da Rocks records, those are such great jams. very early Daft Punk but possibly more raw.

so Human After All is actually having this huge revisionist comeback or are people just trying to fuck with these polls??? Cuz that could be an interesting topic in and of itself...that shit was panned when it came out.

and all the Justice haters can;t hide from the fact that it made them go back and listen to the album that birthed the sound...AND made it sound better!

i think saying it birthed it is a little much, at the time i remember thinking it sounded very of the moment, a lot of distorted aggro house seemed pretty notable to me at the time.

although no doubt they could be credited w/ making that sound go a lot further

Homework was doing something original compared to the Big Beat sound of its day

don't know if originality is a big deal here. Discovery is not really an 'original' record (contextually maybe...altho even there some critics were dismissing it on the basis that LRD had beaten them to disco revivalism selling point) itself, nor is it more diverse than Homework.

the simple 110bpm 808 & 303 rhythms of HW

i think they used a 909 on some tracks btw

yeah that was '05...the same year that the first Justice, Sebastian remixes emerged, which means that the Justice dudes and Busy P and all them were clearly hanging around in Paris with DP listening to the same "of the moment" distorted aggro house and getting ideas for this new sound they were going to take...I mean HAA is clearly a step in a different direction from Discovery so you gotta wonder

DP took the lead is what I'm saying...and then their scene followed

xp2 by disco revival i mean 70s/80s really

so Human After All is actually having this huge revisionist comeback or are people just trying to fuck with these polls??? Cuz that could be an interesting topic in and of itself...that shit was panned when it came out.

it's been my clear favorite by Daft Punk since its release; not to mention, i thought it was the most unjustly panned album of that year, no contest.

nor is it more diverse than Homework.

beg to differ. "One More Time" - big stadium singalong stomp; "Aerodynamic" - robot guitar solo ridiculousness; "Digital Love" - Gorgeous paean with superb middle 8; "Harder Better" - OTT funk slush etc... To me Homework has a pretty formulaic sound based around said synths and repeating rhythms. I guess it's down to whichever context you're listening. I can imagine Homework sounding a lot better on massive speakers played at +12, but Discovery is more of a home listening album I suppose.

da funk, revolution 909, fresh, around the world, rock and roll, oh yeah and alive are all pretty different from each other.

better played at +12? wtf!

i guess we had this same argument already 4 years ago tho

i think we might have. i'm sticking to my argument that Homework sounds like it's being played a bit too slow for my taste - some moments sound like they're really trudging along.

I do like Da Funk, Around The World and Alive quite a lot though.

you guys all sound ridiculous, no matter whose side you are taking

^^^^ faq?

I think anyone holding up Discovery as a bastion of diversity over EITHER Homework or Human After All hasn't actually heard Homework or Human After All. This isn't a comment on the relative worthiness of the albums, just a comment on cohesiveness/homogeny of sound across the albums; I can't think of a single thing on Discovery that is as jarring or out-of-step-sounding as "Rolling and Scratching" or "Make Love".

Make Love is vintage eno; while i'm not gonna say the consensus is wrong i do believe it was rushed into. It certainly isn't terrible.

re: HAA

Homework sounds like it's being played a bit too slow for my taste - some moments sound like they're really trudging along

speed up the tracks you mean, post link and we'll poll accordingly /ridiculous

'make love' is vintage eno average housecat

ng plz

homework is slow??? wtf

homework was dope, but the last time i heard it it was somehow less mindblowing than discovery, for the first time, i think.

speed up the tracks you mean, post link and we'll poll accordingly /ridiculous

-- blueski

dj sneak plays "indo silver club" at +8

guess what: sounds EXACTLY like a sneak or derrick carter track

daft punk should've quit at their 1996 "essential mix"

"musique" was the last good DP track

No way, "Da Funk" is awesome.

oh goodness

(ps: "Da Funk" is not the last good DP track)

"musique" was the last good DP track

-- moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:09 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

madness!

fuck, I forgot I wasn't getting involved in this thread, disregard

lol purists

i am a fan of very slow house music, not that DP cater for that

what's the slowest house song ever?

"Time To Melt" - Lard

It's not that it's slow - slow can be good - but sometimes the beats on Homework are just... I dunno... They sound clumsy, like a big caveman hitting a rock in a slow, awkward way, or a fat uncle hopping around the living room and smashing into ornaments and furniture (note I am not writing from experience here). Rollin and Scratchin does this and I find it really hard on my ears. Discovery seems more graceful, lighter, more streamlined, but with more space for ideas. Not that you'll agree with me here, just what I'm hearing.

well the point of the bd on Rollin & Scratchin' is to be like that - not clumsy as such, just very brash and uncouth, harsh and relentless...like a LOT of techno basically.

yeah but techno needs to be fast.

not sure where you got that idea from

Have you ever heard any of the early 90s +8 stuff? "F.U." isn't a fast song but it's completely killer.

beltram, l.f.o. and a whole bunch of dudes from detroit to thread

you know my feelings on lfo.

fuck that man - techno needs to be fast, wtf you lot on?

it's true, that's why daft punk sucks

lol kids

moonship contrarianism doesnt make these arguments suck less

"fuck that man - techno needs to be fast, wtf you lot on?

-- the next grozart"

not crack, unlike you.

i am not being contrarian when i say that daft punk bores me to tears these days

i should say "not MERELY being contrarian"

DISCOVERY. Because it has, among many other treasures, "Voyager" -- their most sublime moment.

ok I did a quick bit of bpm tapping and from discovery I got

one more time : 124 bpm
digital love : 125 bpm
HBFS: 123 bpm
aerodynamic: 123 bpm
crescendolls: 124 bpm
(this is all +/- here)

the only songs on Homework that are slower than 126 bpm are the three slow ones: Da Funk, Around the World and Teachers, while the rest are even faster than that.

http://home.nordnet.fr/~xhien/homework.html

I mean ok I admit it's pedantic to break out the timer and count bpms like I just did but if you're going to make the argument "X album is faster than Y album" at least get it right. Maybe it's not cool to get technical like that with music though.

Also:

Alive 1997 >>>>>>>>>>>> Alive 2007 >>>>>>> Homework >>>>>>> everything else they've done

(not counting Roule stuff in that list but it'd be between 1997 and 2007)

"techno has to be fast" translation "i cannot dance"

Lots of insanity around here. 'Face to Face' towers pretty high over anything else, so I don't need to spend too much time thinking about this poll.

I find it way easier to dance to shit like "Da Funk" than 120/140 bpm

ok that's a lie

bpms dont really have anything to do w/ how danceable something is, as long as yr within a certain, very broad range

people dance to hip-hop all the time and you're talking about bpms around 90. most house music you're talking about 125. Disco in the one-teens. And there are thousands of exceptions to these.

don't care about bpms really. the tracks on homework sound laden and therefore slow. i was being facetious saying techno should be fast, of course there is great slow techno. Discovery is more of a song-based record, Homework is better for the dance purists; end of.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

^^^ one of the worst daft punk threads ever. poll?

a vote for anything besides discovery is a vote against the synth-guitar solo on digital love

this narrows my options quite a bit

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Good, the way it should be.

Human After All = Nader

BOOOO!

who else voted for human after all to butthurt pipecock?

daft punk is alright