Sade: Classic or Dud?

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I'm greatly frustrated by the lack of a straight-ahead, Sade classic or dud thread on ILM.

http://qblog.nov.ru/images/uploads/SADE_1984.jpg

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:37 (seventeen years ago)

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Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:39 (seventeen years ago)

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Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

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Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

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Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:42 (seventeen years ago)

why is this thread necessary??

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:45 (seventeen years ago)

^^

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:46 (seventeen years ago)

I want to invite the folks who would say "dud" to a duel, you see? Let's have it out.

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:47 (seventeen years ago)

That's more sportsmanlike than is befitting of a Sade-hater.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:48 (seventeen years ago)

I say oil up the guillotine.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:49 (seventeen years ago)

why is this thread not necessary?

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:23 (seventeen years ago)

thread can only be saved by large images of sade being hott (pretty much any pic of her)

gershy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:25 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.langfieldentertainment.com/images/IMAGES%20TO%20KEEP/sade.jpg

gershy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:27 (seventeen years ago)

I know I am an old man tonight, because I just wiki-ed her and found out she's 49. And of course she is, if I think about it. Still. I hate it when time passes.

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:28 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov04/images/classicpela7sade.l.jpg

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:32 (seventeen years ago)

large images of sade being hott (pretty much any pic of her)

yes, i also noted that GIS is none too forthcoming with the pics of her at 7 a.m. in curlers and her "comfortable" robe.

kenan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:32 (seventeen years ago)

^^^^^my desktop photo

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:32 (seventeen years ago)

I've started quite a few Sade threads around here. Apart from some isolated comments on how Sade fans couldn't possibly "love music", they've been well recieved.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 08:38 (seventeen years ago)

dood. 'your love is king' slays a party if mixed into hiphop. she should put out an lp produced by dangermouse or timberlake/land.

U-Haul, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

There's no straight-up "classic or dud" thread because everyone thinks she's classic.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:10 (seventeen years ago)

harumph!

zaxxon25, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:12 (seventeen years ago)

i'll use this thread to recommend both of her live DVDs

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:18 (seventeen years ago)

dood. 'your love is king' slays a party if mixed into hiphop. she should put out an lp produced by dangermouse or timberlake/land.

Yes. Almost every good old song should be remixed and updated. For the kids!

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:21 (seventeen years ago)

by your side is the tenderest ever

jhøshea, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:25 (seventeen years ago)

she should put out an lp produced by dangermouse or timberlake/land.

-- U-Haul, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:07 (48 minutes ago) Link

no offense dude, this sounds like awful idea

The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

Really, really happy I had the chance to see her perform. Her voice is just as stunning live. "Is It a Crime?" = SWOON. I'll check out those live DVDs mentioned.

scampering alpaca, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

actually it would have been dope to see her do a record produced by Massive Attack in their prime. but you really cant fault her music at all.

pipecock, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

Good lord, her with Massive Attack. That sounds like a fantastic idea.

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:39 (seventeen years ago)

There's no straight-up "classic or dud" thread because everyone thinks she's classic.

Not everyone, apparently. From AMG's review of Promise:

was once again the personification of cool, laid-back singing, seldom extending or embellishing lyrics, registering emotion, or projecting her voice. This demeanor made her more desirable in the minds of many fans and was perhaps the ultimate misapplication of the notion of sophistication.

From AMG's review of Stronger Than Pride:

After two LPs with little or no energy, Sade demonstrated some intensity and fire on her third release. . . . Not that she was suddenly singing in a soulful or bluesy manner; rather, Sade's dry and introspective tone now had a little more edge, and the lyrics were ironic as well as reflective.

AMG was also lukewarm on Diamond Life. To be fair, all three of these reviews were written by the same reviewer (Ron Wynn). Still, I'm surprised, since I've always thought that AMG seemed pretty generous to artists (maybe that's a complete misperception).

FWIW -- not much, I know -- I like Sade, but I don't think she's as great as most others here apparently do. De gustibus non est disputandum, I guess.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

I know I'm gonna sound like some random googler, but, Sade? I love her. I mean, I really, really love her.

(Um, classic obv.)

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 06:56 (seventeen years ago)

That is a really rare contrarian POV for AMG.

Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 07:31 (seventeen years ago)

PS: Most classic for me of all her classic moments: "Every day is Christmas / And every night is New Year's Eve."

Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 07:32 (seventeen years ago)

live album is good

chaki, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 08:04 (seventeen years ago)

'By Your Side' is very soothing

joedee, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 10:47 (seventeen years ago)

Bimble, don't be so literal! I started this one in 2001:

Sade: Hologram or Dud?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:17 (seventeen years ago)

If anyone's interested in what a Sade/Massive Attack Collabo might have sounded like, this is probably the closest thing to it -

Sade - "Love Is Stronger Than Pride (Mad Professor Mix)"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sks22h

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:22 (seventeen years ago)

There's also a shitty Neptunes remix of 'By your side' floating around

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:34 (seventeen years ago)

It's on the single. I don't like it mainly because it changes the chord progression, rendering Sade's singing faintly ridiculous for anyone who loves the original..

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 12:00 (seventeen years ago)

theres a vinyl 2x lp of a bunch of remixes of sade out there that includes that mad prof. mix. I saw it the other day at a record store

deej, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:52 (seventeen years ago)

It's OK. Don't spend a fortune on it, tho

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:59 (seventeen years ago)

heres one from what.cd

sade - best of (the remixes)

01-sade-love_is_stronger_than_pride__mad_professor_mix
02-sade-give_it_up__kenny_larkin_rmx
03-sade-kiss_of_live__deep_mix
04-sade-feel_no_pain__nellie_hooper_mix
05-sade-turn_my_back_on_you__heffs_mix
06-sade-sweetest_taboo__extended_version
07-sade-i_never_thought_id_see_the_day__danny_tenaglias_musk_men_mix
08-sade-by_your_side__ben_watt_mix
09-sade-somebody_already_broke_my_heart__excursions_mix

jhøshea, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:05 (seventeen years ago)

oh man im listening to that neptunes by your side and yes it is awful - talk abt completely missing the mark uhg

jhøshea, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

I guess I should have said "Everyone thinks she's classic except for one AMG reviewer who doesn't post here anyway and is more on-the-fence than negative, anyway."

HI DERE, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:12 (seventeen years ago)

I remember that Kenny Larkin remix of 'Give it Up' as being pretty good?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

You're in luck: http://turbocity.blogspot.com/2007/09/best-of-remixessade.html

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:33 (seventeen years ago)

As much as I love Sade I don't understand how a live album could be worth having. I've been to one of her shows (at Madison Square Garden) and it was mindblowing, but aside from a conga flourish or two, the music itself seemed exactly the same as on record..

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:52 (seventeen years ago)

OTM. Live DVDs on the other hand...

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:55 (seventeen years ago)

the live DVDs are very nice. smoke some herb, watch it with your lady. the bomb.

pipecock, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 16:26 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

god, 'no ordinary love' is so fucking beautiful.

lex pretend, Sunday, 31 August 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't appreciate her nearly enough when Diamond Life came out (it got overplayed at our record store), but her records have aged remarkably well. In addition to a fantastic voice and amazing presence, she's just cool as hell. A star.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:42 (two years ago)

sade on horseback is magic

(Swoon)

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:11 (two years ago)

this was posted a few days ago. sad news but also makes me hopeful that something new will show up eventually.

https://scontent.fslc3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/295694383_597681398390594_5659744349417744772_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=1kueaRPbKAkAX-mMQns&_nc_ht=scontent.fslc3-2.fna&oh=00_AT93KaQfdFnmHvnyx73XUn3lMf9B3aL1igjsy4EhVr_QSg&oe=62E8127F

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:15 (two years ago)

i found stronger than pride in the glove compartment of my boyfriends car a few weeks ago while we were driving around with the windows down. so good and tbh i've never felt cooler.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:18 (two years ago)

rest well mp☮️🕉

thank you for sharing that news, map and big co-sign on stronger than pride. that one's probably aged the best of her catalogue by this point. "turn my back on you" is such a standout no matter where or when i hear it.

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:59 (two years ago)

great music to listen to with a person you love

Lovers Rock and Love Deluxe have really been doing it for me the past years but I am now enjoying Stronger Than Pride

corrs unplugged, Friday, 29 July 2022 08:38 (two years ago)

one month passes...

does "no ordinary love" ever lose its power

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 23:23 (two years ago)

Just relistened and nope, still great. The stereo panning on the palm-muted electric guitar under Sade's silken vocals is such a great textural touch.

The Ghost Club, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 01:31 (two years ago)

They continue to be one of the few artists my dad and his friends love that I also love. Their production makes them tower way above the rest.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 04:38 (two years ago)

"All About Our Love" is a song i dream about sweetly slow dancing to my spouse 10-20-30 years down the line.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 05:17 (two years ago)

^That's one of my favorites, too. In fact, all of 'Lovers Rock' is sublime.

KevRus, Thursday, 1 September 2022 04:18 (two years ago)

one month passes...

who programmed the drums on Lovers Rock and Love Deluxe?

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:59 (two years ago)

they are perfect

for some reason I had the impression it was the drummer, but apparently no

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:59 (two years ago)

I'm going to guess Andrew Hale.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 21:02 (two years ago)

Thought the thread bump was going to be about this:

Brad Pitt reopens Miraval Studios at Provence wine estate

Award-winning Sade has become the first artist to record new music in the refurbished studios at Château Miraval, co-owned by Pitt and which previously hosted sessions for Pink Floyd’s ‘The Wall’.https://t.co/LBR5zMfryk

— Decanter (@Decanter) October 11, 2022

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 21:24 (two years ago)

do we have a release date?

“Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:46 (two years ago)

no & there's not even really much news here, they've been working on the new album since at least 2018. who knows when it'll be done

ufo, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:51 (two years ago)

I think the consensus is that Soldier of Love was a bit underwhelming?

I'd be very (happily) surprised if they reach former heights on a new release

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:56 (two years ago)

I think the consensus is that Soldier of Love was a bit underwhelming?

No way.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:59 (two years ago)

Alfred otm

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:04 (two years ago)

i guess i'll pay whatever i have to when she tours

“Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:28 (two years ago)

absolutely the best arena show i've ever seen, definitely do so.

adam, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:03 (two years ago)

haha I just knew Alfred would be into it

not for me

corrs unplugged, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:33 (two years ago)

"Soldier of Love" (the song) ruled live. As did Sade on that last tour.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 11:59 (two years ago)

haha I just knew Alfred would be into it

not for me

― corrs unplugged

Ha. Does anyone else think Diamond Life their weakest? Apart from the singles and Timmy Thomas cover it's hard to remember how the tracks go when I look at the listing.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 12:16 (two years ago)

I think Lovers Rock and Love Deluxe tower over the rest

corrs unplugged, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:31 (two years ago)

diamond life is so amazing it feels wrong to call it the weakest anything but it is my least favorite sade record yes

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2022 13:46 (two years ago)

absolutely the best arena show i've ever seen, definitely do so.

I saw the Love Deluxe tour. Life-changing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:26 (two years ago)

I'm sure I've detailed it upthread somewhere but I saw her live at MSG and was up in the cheap seats with my friends, having just bought hot dogs and beer, when out of nowhere somebody in a hi-vis vest started handing out free floor tickets. We were agog. Eventually we were led down to the floor, where folding metal chairs had been set up in rows, and waiters wearing waistcoats were swanning around with trays of plastic champagne flutes with strawberries floating in them. Every time we stood up to dance we got yelled at by the people behind us. Well excuuuuuuuse me! Afterwards somebody was telling me that she's famous for leaving the building before the last notes of the encore have even finished playing. GOAT

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 15:51 (two years ago)

Afterwards somebody was telling me that she's famous for leaving the building before the last notes of the encore have even finished playing

oh man what a power move, absolute queen.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:55 (two years ago)

it's a huge ask for me to go to anything, i hate crowds and i live in the fucking wilderness and everything is sign-over-your-car-title expensive now etc, but if she ever makes a stop in l.a. and i still have a grand on my credit card i would at least make an attempt to get tickets and airfare.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:59 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaD3SgPuccE

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 October 2022 16:02 (two years ago)

three months pass...

no reason, this simply rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51ptJw8uWE0

"love is stronger than pride (mad professor remix)" (1992)

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Saturday, 28 January 2023 01:47 (two years ago)

Yes it does.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:49 (two years ago)

oh def

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:12 (two years ago)

what's the category above 'classic'

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:18 (two years ago)

i always considered that like the blueprint, or the prototype... or maybe like the "pocket translator" level. like, right then: welcome to day one. this is where you sort out the standard definition. have a great time.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:49 (two years ago)

xp iconic

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:17 (two years ago)

eleven months pass...

happy 65th

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 23:20 (one year ago)

seven months pass...

Sade will release “Young Lion” on Nov. 22 as part of the “Transa” benefit album by non-profit Red Hot, supporting transgender awareness and featuring trans and non-binary artists. The song is dedicated to Sade’s son, Izaak, who is a transgender man. ❤️ pic.twitter.com/Cnj7S5vDba

— Sade (@sadearchive) September 4, 2024

bratwurst autumn (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:07 (nine months ago)

awwww

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:10 (nine months ago)

awwww seconded

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:18 (nine months ago)

v nice

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 September 2024 10:53 (nine months ago)

^^ said in Borat voice

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2024 11:43 (nine months ago)

two months pass...

“Start believing in yourself / put the blame on no one else”

calstars, Sunday, 10 November 2024 23:26 (seven months ago)

https://i.imgur.com/XN7Xrbw.jpeg

calstars, Monday, 11 November 2024 02:16 (seven months ago)

I was stressed out and driving my wife’s car. She uses Sirius XM and I was stabbing my finger against the touchscreen, trying to find a station that wasn’t irritating.

I stumbled onto “Your Love is King” and it was like someone lowered my soul into a luxurious bubblebath and I instantly relaxed. Love that band, love that woman.

Cow_Art, Monday, 11 November 2024 02:22 (seven months ago)

^

calstars, Monday, 11 November 2024 02:23 (seven months ago)

<3

scanner darkly, Monday, 11 November 2024 17:22 (seven months ago)

three weeks pass...

Young Lion so good!

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 3 December 2024 21:03 (six months ago)


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