Rage against the Machine S/D

Also, Zach does such catchy rhythmic stuff to make his flow fit tempos and grooves not usually found in hip-hop. I think he's never really gotten enough credit for it...I could see being annoyed by his tone I guess, but while it may sound awkward over the straight hip-hop tracks I've heard him on, it's so perfect for the band and for the harder tracks he's appeared on.

The second album took awhile to grow on me and it's not a masterpiece like the debut, but it's great too. It's got this warm, upfront organic sound that makes both the hip-hop and the hardcore-sounding parts sound better. Goddamn do they have energy on these albums.

I can take or leave Battle for Los Angeles, and I think Renegades is solid fun (especially the Rakim, Cypress Hill and Minor Threat covers), but debut and Evil Empire are classic enough for me.

You don't *need* to call me out, Jordan.

Capsule history of Ned and RATM -- warm July night, 1992, some time before the first album came out.

FRIEND: "Come, Ned, let us go to this benefit with lots of bands on it. Rage Against the Machine are playing, and I have seen them and they are great. You will like them."

NED: "I trust you, friend."

[at show, RATM take the stage and the entire crowd goes nuts]

NED to self: "My friend alas lied. This is absolutely terrible jock rock pig-headed fucking crap."

Further encounters with the group's work over time merely confirmed this. You are welcome to their idiocies. ;-)

Maybe context was all -- and I couldn't understand a single thing de la Rocha was saying at that gig, so lyrical content or lack thereof certainly wasn't driving my hate initially, though I later used it as a stick to beat their fans with when much was made of them. All I know is that it did not move me at all, period -- reminded me of nothing more than a thrashier Red Hot Chili Peppers, a band I despise with a burning passion. I certainly don't recall anything special about supposed guitar god Tom Morello's playing, that's for sure.

I think most 'real' mc's are too laid back to do this sort of thing justice, which is what makes Zach so cool. I can't wait for Mos Def's rock album though.

Anyway, there are a couple of Rage songs I like OK (uhh, can't really remember how they go, but they probably sound pretty much like all the other ones) but the rapping is just too adolescent and silly. I really think they should hire Sammy Hagar to be their next singer. They DO get credit for understanding that the purpose of propaganda is not to preach to the like-minded. That a multiracial bunch of commies from LA -- the white-minority dystopia -- were able to draw a few million Johnny Rebels into their pit is success on some sort of practical level, so I'll give the fuckers a little red merit badge to hang next to their platinum records. Perhaps the next best thing to Ice T getting a full time gig with Slayer.

One can still think the 'system' is fucked, etc., without agreeing with Rage's cartoonish approach to things -- and if the argument is that being cartoonish is part of their appeal, I'll note that the band expressed support on stage for folks like the IRA Provos. For a band that claims awareness as part and parcel of their whole package to support *those* idiots is a sign, and not a good one.

Musically, enjoy what you like. Politically, it seems to me Rage is a band to grow out of rather than hold allegiance to.

RATM... I really liked them when I first heard "Killing (In The Name Of)". Then I heard everything else they did and got a severe case of the Creeping Horror. Getting rid of Zack is quite possibly the best thing they could have done as far as I'm concerned. As far as Tom Morello's talent is concerned... He seems talented enough, but I'd much rather talk to him than listen to him play.

Goes without saying, m'friend.

I really think they should hire Sammy Hagar to be their next singer.

Ask for Sammy, get Chris Cornell.

lawl the student who lives next door to me is trying out 'killing in the name of' on his/her 'axe'.

So, when is the Inside Out reunion again?

I'm not sure why I've decided to take this question seriously, but anyway...

S: "Freedom," "Down Rodeo," "The Ghost Of Tom Joad," the song from The Crow soundtrack

D: Most of Battle of LA (WAY overrated.. especially "Sleep Now In The Fire"), "Renegades Of Funk," the Cypress hill cover, most of the covers album

people STILL give a shit about this band?!?

I think that Battle of Los Angeles is a good album and I don't care who knows it

i am happier to hear rage than pretty much any other 90s mainstream rock band

when i was a kid i was AFRAID of RATM! like people would wear their shirts and i'd think "i bet that band is too out of control for me. i like beethoven's Eroica symphony, and i'm too young and sheltered to even know what the word erotica means."

i'm not sure i ever heard "killing in the name of" until just now. it is flagrantly bad! if you just listen to the guitar riff and concentrate on it, it is unbelievably boring and tame and completely at odds with the lyrics.

FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!
*endless jam band slappy guitar riff plays in the corner of a coffeeshop in the 3rd largest collegetown in a state that has between 3 and 5 members in the house of representatives*

Definitely one of the worst bands of all time.

Everyone I knew in high school that listened to RATM are Tories now

Capsule history of Ned and RATM -- warm July night, 1992, some time before the first album came out.

FRIEND: "Come, Ned, let us go to this benefit with lots of bands on it. Rage Against the Machine are playing, and I have seen them and they are great. You will like them."

NED: "I trust you, friend."

[at show, RATM take the stage and the entire crowd goes nuts]

NED to self: "My friend alas lied. This is absolutely terrible jock rock pig-headed fucking crap."

loooool NED otm

Quarter century later and I stand by it all.

haha that's too good

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El Paso, TX March 26, 2020
Las Cruces, NM March 28, 2020
Phoenix, AZ March 30, 2020
Indio, CA April 10, 2020
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coachella is p unwoke

this is kinda like the system of a down thing. only 5 shows finishing with a festival headliner. and both played phx... im in.

I would def go if I lived near tx,nm,az

Wonder if Beto's gonna sit in at the El Paso date?

coachella's gonna be lit (i.e. Woodstock 99)

Search Urban Dance Squad
Destroy RAGTM

This band has always been absolute shit and I can’t believe they’re being critically rehabilitated. Fucking revisionist history bullshit.

Another thing to blame the millenials for I guess.

Critics loved this band

I have no particular feelings about RATM but I enjoyed this video of a guy listening to killing in the name of for the first time.

You don't *need* to call me out, Jordan.

Capsule history of Ned and RATM -- warm July night, 1992, some time before the first album came out.

FRIEND: "Come, Ned, let us go to this benefit with lots of bands on it. Rage Against the Machine are playing, and I have seen them and they are great. You will like them."

NED: "I trust you, friend."

[at show, RATM take the stage and the entire crowd goes nuts]

NED to self: "My friend alas lied. This is absolutely terrible jock rock pig-headed fucking crap."

Further encounters with the group's work over time merely confirmed this. You are welcome to their idiocies. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, May 4, 2002 7:00 PM (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

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