tim maia: c/d, s/d

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i don't know anything about this guy, and internet sources are scanty. for example: allmusic lists 20+ albums but reviews none of them. anyway i'm always hearing such great things about him, sort of disappointed that most of what i've heard just sounds like EW&F in portugese.

so recommendations, please, and maybe with an eye toward the more "exotic" side of tim maia? (if he has one?)

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 6 April 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

the 2 disc set Racional is AMAZING. sounds like the best Jorge Ben

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uUfaaNq1qQ

jaxon, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

Is this the album you're talking about, jaxon?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=98266762

(The Existential Soul of Tim Maia from Luaka Bop)

Didn't he go mad and join some barmy cult in the 70s?

I used to have a Brazil funk tape featuring two wonderful tracks that grooved on forever. I remember one of them was called We're gonna rule the world. I loved it but I threw away all my tapes a couple of years ago. If anyone knows how to get hold of that track, I'd be grateful for any info.

Daniel Giraffe, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:22 (seventeen years ago)

By the way, moonship, Tim Maia really did just make a career out of singing soul (albeit mostly in Portuguese), as far as I can tell. So if you're looking for 'exotic' music - whatever that may mean - you might be disappointed.

Daniel Giraffe, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

Classic, even if all had he even done was write "Chocolate."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

Tim is classic though I don't know much about him. I remember Caetano doing one of his big tracks on his live album that came out a minute back.

jim, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

isn't it obnoxious how brazilian musicians always have like 10 s/t albums to keep track of?

anyway i picked up tim maia 1977, it's very very nice but what i was talking about when i complained about sounding like EW&F in portugese. i had hoped for something a little more bossa/samba influenced.

good on luaka bop for making that happen but why not just do a 2cd set of the complete vol I + II of rational culture? i wish they were more serious about their reissue game ...

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:34 (seventeen years ago)

this is an xpost, your point is duly noted, daniel giraffe

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:34 (seventeen years ago)

TIM MAIA
Once upon a time, a jolly funk pirate named Tim Maia sailed the seas of soul music with a bottle of fun in hand at all times. He was always on the lookout for more members to add to his crew and did his best to convert those around him to the wonders of LSD, going so far as to distribute tabs to everyone at his record label in Brazil (Polygram). Midway thru his career, he joined the cult known as Superior Rational, which convinced its members that UFO's were going to descend on the Earth and deliver believers to the next world. Once again, he began to proselytize his beliefs to those near and far. He even used his music as a vehicle for the cult's message on two albums in 1975-76, and some of those songs are included on our newest World Psychedelic Series compilation coming on May 13th.

Check out this tale of recruitment as told by Tim's longtime friend and A&R rep Nelson Motta: In 1975, a Superior Rational devotee and missionary, Tim announced that he'd sent the sect's records and books (titled The Universe in Disenchantment) to Isaac Hayes, Curtis Mayfield and John Lennon. A reporter speaking with Tim at the time asks "Why?", since the books and records were written and sung in Portuguese. Tim's reply: "The Superior Rational will make them understand."

One month later he got an answer from John Lennon, written on a photo where he was fully naked:

Dear freak,
I don't speak Portuguese. You can LISTEN to this photo.
Love and peace,
John

Love and peace,
LUAKA BOP

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:34 (seventeen years ago)

http://sopedrada.blogspot.com/2007/10/tim-maia-racional-volumes-1-2-tim-maia.html

this is the one i was talking about

jaxon, Sunday, 6 April 2008 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

Nelson Motta in the story above must have married Tim's sister or something, because Ed Motta is Tim's nephew. now he's someone i wish i liked the records of.

i posted this photo on the "post a picture of your record collection" thread

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/jbodine/Music%20II/MottasRecords.jpg

but his music is smoothed out funky lite jazz :(

jaxon, Sunday, 6 April 2008 23:08 (seventeen years ago)

^^ i read waxpoetics too

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 6 April 2008 23:17 (seventeen years ago)

He even used his music as a vehicle for the cult's message on two albums in 1975-76, and some of those songs are included on our newest World Psychedelic Series compilation coming on May 13th.

see makes it sound very ambiguous. is it going to be a 1cd mix of songs from racional vols 1+2? or is it just going to be a career retrospective and they felt like pointing out what a wacky guy tim maia was?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 6 April 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks, jaxon. Yeah, I've never been very excited by Ed Motta's music. Impeccable good taste, but not interesting.

is it going to be a 1cd mix of songs from racional vols 1+2? or is it just going to be a career retrospective and they felt like pointing out what a wacky guy tim maia was?

I was wondering the same thing, moonship

Daniel Giraffe, Monday, 7 April 2008 07:47 (seventeen years ago)

I had a late 60s Polydor album of his that was pretty boring - sounded like standard late 60s US R&B sung in Portuguese. But the bits I've heard ("Energia Racional" tune springs to mind) from the early 70s stuff were really good. will probably get that luaka bop comp eventually

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 7 April 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

correction: I had his first 1970 album, which is on Phillips.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 7 April 2008 18:22 (seventeen years ago)

isn't it obnoxious how brazilian musicians always have like 10 s/t albums to keep track of?
haha

My local library has some books by Nelson Motta with kind of Roy Lichtenstein covers. I don't know what they are about exactly, my Portguese isn't really good enough to read them.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 April 2008 18:59 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

...is really good, I didn't have this before. More like real soul music than the Brazilian rock many here are accustomed to.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners) (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

i'd say that's sort of a down side. that apart from singing in brazilian accented portuguese there's not any sort of brazilian side to it that would make it notable. otoh a number of his songs are great and don't really need any sort of exoticism as a "hook".

zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

On the other hand, if you've heard every early 70s soul album on the planet, you might want it. Only $6.37 on emusic!

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners) (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plfuv81J8g4

I have the 1971 Polydor S/T. Not bad, particularly this track. Though at time it rambles into more generic "festa" sounds, not to my liking. Too much accordion.

The Racional volumes are classics.

san lazaro, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

eight months pass...

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/browbeat/2012/09/23/timmaia2.jpeg.CROP.article250-medium.jpeg

loving this new comp. World Psychedelic Classics on Luaka Bop is just the best series. I had only heard a couple scattered tracks from this guy like "Rational Culture" so I'm enjoying the deeper dive.

dmr, Monday, 8 October 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

six years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn4WourTVao

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:16 (six years ago)

three years pass...

This classic doesn’t seem to be streaming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_FV32-yQU

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:26 (two years ago)

This one has pictures of the nominal meaning of the song title along with the lyrics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6IPlu4DmZE

The Lunatics (Have Taken Over the Elektra) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:29 (two years ago)

just realized i'd been conflating him with another much-reissued hip '70s brazilian. hmm

budo jeru, Thursday, 13 July 2023 22:10 (two years ago)

who's the guy with blonde hair that everybody likes?

budo jeru, Thursday, 13 July 2023 22:10 (two years ago)

Marcos Valle?

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 13 July 2023 22:13 (two years ago)

yes, thank you!

budo jeru, Thursday, 13 July 2023 22:17 (two years ago)

the name arthur verocai kept sticking in my head, which is another thing entirely.

my brain is so toast these days :(

budo jeru, Thursday, 13 July 2023 22:18 (two years ago)


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